# Munchkin Mini Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 13, 2009, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633 "2009-02-13T02:05:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/801 "2009-03-03T14:35:20Z")

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Thanks for sticking with the game, **sinjin**.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/802 "2009-03-03T15:26:39Z")

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Thanks sinjin. That was most efficient of you.  
I’m sorry that I annoyed you.

The vote is now tied. Let’s observe a **vote freeze** for the rest of the Turn.

ShadowFacts will unvote in response to any voting by Darth Sensitive.  
I will unvote in response to any voting by Chucara.

Note to all: I will not unvote until the very end of the Turn. If Chucara tips the balance, please just have faith that I will respond shortly before the end of the Turn. (Also, I have seminar at Noon.)

The double death probably won’t work, but we will try our best.

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/803 "2009-03-03T15:49:10Z")

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Sorry for my absense. I should be around for the rest of the Day.

> [@sachertorte](#):
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> Care to revisit this? I think you mean Squid in the second paragraph, but I’m not sure.

Yup. I was thinking Dio and wrote Darth.

> [@](#):
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> Could you explain what is off about ShadowFacts’s reveal of your alignment? It is an interesting hypothesis, but I find the outing of Darth Sensitive a strange step in the sequence. Has this happened in the past? Can you give an example? From my point of view, if an Evil ShadowFacts did this, then he would be GIVING us an Evil, in exchange for mis-killing one Good, but also giving up himself. I really have a hard time believing this happening. I’m not saying ShadowFacts can’t be Evil, but I would be very surprised if he was.

Sure. The (lawful) scum just need to get one person alive until the end. Thus, if they can prove Shadow as the most likely townie, they would be assured victory. So how would a scum go about it. The first step would be to a claim a townie as a townie. In order to confirm Shadow’s truthfulness that townie could be cursed that night. Still, the town probably needs more to fully believe Shadow. Thus the outing of Darth. If the scum are a mislynch away from winning, it is worth it to sacrifice a scum in order to cause a mislynch later. Remember, the outing of Darth happened before the scum knew Chucara was outed too (If you are being truthful.) Darth’s lackluster defense is another point in favor of this being a scum strategy.

As for has it happened like that I don’t quite remember. I’m not sure if anyone actually outed fellow scum. This game is actually pretty friendly towards false claims though. No third parties thay disrupt things and no fully confirmable roles.

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/804 "2009-03-03T16:12:46Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
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> Don’t know what else I can say about what I did and why, but if you have questions, I am happy to answer them. If it makes you feel any better, if I did have such an Evil plan, I can’t go through with it now that I don’t have the Ring 😃
> 
> FTR, and not brown-nosing, I think we should do whatever we can to save **Hawkeyeop** from the Curse.

Fair point. I lose track of what are inate abilities and what are item abilities. Of anyone, I’m sure you understand my leeriness of trusting detectives too much 😉 Anyways, I’m not in a hurry to lynch you. Let’s see if we can do the double lynch today, and take it from there.

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/805 "2009-03-03T16:19:44Z")

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So I shouldn’t do anything with my vote at this point right?

Who are Chucara and Darth currently working for?

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/806 "2009-03-03T16:20:52Z")

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Who are Chucara and Darth currently voting for even?

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/807 "2009-03-03T16:39:12Z")

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Turn Four

Starts Friday 27 February, noon PT. Ends Tuesday 3 March, noon PT.

Items in the Hoard:  
Rod of Disintegration (unstealable)  
Amulet of Magic Resistance  
Amulet of Reflection  
Gauntlets of Ogre Power  
Helm of Empathy  
Ring of Invisibility  
Ring of Limited Wishes  
Shield of Adamantium  
Wand of Holding

Votes as of post 804.

Six Votes  
Darth Sensitive: ShadowFacts (721), Boozahol Squid, P.I. (724), sachertorte (731), Zsofia (756), MHaye (792), sinjin (800)  
Chucara: Hawkeyeop (282), Zsofia (506), sachertorte (731), Boozahol Squid, P.I. (742), [sinjin (762)-(800)], ShadowFacts (776), MHaye (792)

Two Votes  
sachertorte: [Zsofia (657)-(756)], [Boozahol Squid, P.I. (662)-(720)], sinjin (676), Darth Sensitive (703)

One Vote  
Boozahol Squid, P.I.: sinjin (762)  
sinjin: sinjin (790)

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Darth is voting for me.  
Chucara is not voting at all.  
If they show up. Shadowfacts will unvote to counter any moves by Darth.  
I will unvote to counter any moves by Chucara.

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/808 "2009-03-03T16:42:47Z")

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> [@sachertorte](#):
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> Darth is voting for me.  
> Chucara is not voting at all.  
> If they show up. Shadowfacts will unvote to counter any moves by Darth.  
> I will unvote to counter any moves by Chucara.

What if they both vote for one of them?

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/809 "2009-03-03T16:46:59Z")

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Then Shadowfacts will handle Darth’s vote. and I will handle Chucara’s

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/810 "2009-03-03T16:48:00Z")

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> [@sachertorte](#):
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> Then Shadowfacts will handle Darth’s vote. and I will handle Chucara’s

Gotcha. Good luck 🙂

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/811 "2009-03-03T16:50:02Z")

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I’m off to a seminar, but I’ll be back in time for the end of Turn.

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/812 "2009-03-03T19:20:47Z")

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I haven’t actually sent in an action yet.

Do people want me to use the Orb in the hope that there is a charge on it, or would we rather spend Sach’s once-per-game power?

I’ll PM Pleo in 25 minutes or so with what I’m doing.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/813 "2009-03-03T19:27:32Z")

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> [@MHaye](#):
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> I haven’t actually sent in an action yet.
> 
> Do people want me to use the Orb in the hope that there is a charge on it, or would we rather spend Sach’s once-per-game power?
> 
> I’ll PM Pleo in 25 minutes or so with what I’m doing.

Assuming **sach** is not Evil, his ability gives better odds, as we don’t know if the orb is powered or not. Of course, that’s a big assumption 😛 I personally think one of you should try…

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/814 "2009-03-03T19:37:42Z")

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MHaye, do whatever you think is best.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/815 "2009-03-03T19:54:28Z")

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I’m posting this to check what time comes up, to see how close we are.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/816 "2009-03-03T19:58:11Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
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> I’m posting this to check what time comes up, to see how close we are.

Hint: the bottom of every SDMB page lists the current server time (as of when the page was served).

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/817 "2009-03-03T20:01:21Z")

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Well that was anti-climactic.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/818 "2009-03-03T20:01:23Z")

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Turn Four is over. Please give me some to figure out the results.

Talk as you will.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/819 "2009-03-03T20:03:14Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> Hint: the bottom of every SDMB page lists the current server time (as of when the page was served).

Hey, would you look at that! You learn something new every day. 🙂

> [@sachertorte](#):
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> Well that was anti-climactic.

Better than the alternative. Plus our plan was bulletproof - bulletproof, I tell ya!

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/820 "2009-03-03T20:04:44Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
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> Hey, would you look at that! You learn something new every day. 🙂
> 
> Better than the alternative. Plus our plan was bulletproof - bulletproof, I tell ya!

Too bad they used a knife 😉 So did anyone bother to save me?

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