# Munchkin Mini Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 13, 2009, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633 "2009-02-13T02:05:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/981 "2009-03-06T22:45:22Z")

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> And the nuclear option should never be an option. A single confirmed Town could win the game instantly.

Actually, I don’t think the nuclear option was all that powerful. Yes, it (or the threat of it) won this game, but that was a very specific special case. It only works if all Chaotic Goods are confirmed Town and therefore on the designated-survivor list, which I have to imagine would be a rare circumstance.

For the record, I do think the double-lynch on Day 1 was a mistake: Even if the comotose body of **zuma** couldn’t do anything else, it could potentially prevent a triggering of the Evil win condition. Personally, I would have lynched **Boozahol** on the first turn (since an Assassin is potentially very dangerous, if Evil, but almost useless to Good), and waited on more hard info before deciding on a target on Day 2 (or **Blaster Master** if no hard evidence presented itself, based on his lurking).

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/982 "2009-03-06T22:48:13Z")

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> [@sachertorte](#):
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> I have a game setup. Shall I start a new one? Or was someone else planning on running one?

Well, I’m suddenly available to play. 🙂 I’m not sure what the state of the other game is, but there may be fewer than typical players available. Although that allows more new players to get in, right, **Chronos**. 😉

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/983 "2009-03-06T22:48:37Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> For the record, I do think the double-lynch on Day 1 was a mistake: Even if the comotose body of **zuma** couldn’t do anything else, it could potentially prevent a triggering of the Evil win condition.

But we would never know if zuma was Good or Evil. At some point Town would be at lynch or lose and debating whether or not to lynch zuma. By offing him at the start, we avoid that nastiness. We were essentially playing as though the game started with 14 instead of 15.

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**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/984 "2009-03-06T22:48:53Z")

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Please start a game Sach. I’m having withdrawal. Even if I hate the way you attack me all the time.

Have you all looked at the actions thread? Darth switched Boozy’s target to Sach turn 1, but it failed because of the zuma lynch. If that had not happened, it would have been a VERY different game I think.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/985 "2009-03-06T23:00:52Z")

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I promise not to yell at you Nanook.

New game thread here: [Not-so-simple Simpletown](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=509422)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/986 "2009-03-06T23:26:15Z")

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> Have you all looked at the actions thread? Darth switched Boozy’s target to Sach turn 1, but it failed because of the zuma lynch. If that had not happened, it would have been a VERY different game I think.

Ooh, that would have been nasty. The biggest threat to Evil removed without even wasting a Curse on it, and a Townie framed for it to boot.

Where can one find this actions thread?

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**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/987 "2009-03-06T23:31:38Z")

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The DM board Pleo linked up there. I think the scum would have won if Sach had died at the end of Turn 1, especially if it caused Boozy to get lynched for killing him.

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/988 "2009-03-06T23:49:14Z")

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I return form the evening of gaming to theis most excellent news.

We win! Yay!

Sinjin, I’m so sorry. What can I say? You were dancing the same fandance you did in SMB when Dot and Santo abandoned you.

Anyway, give me the time to read the boards (esp the DM board) and then I’ll come back and present the Playlist.

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**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/989 "2009-03-07T00:03:08Z")

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Oh, and just for the record **MHaye** , if you had ever come out in favor of the nuclear option I would have signed up for it. I was not about to force a Chaotic single win on someone who wanted to win with the team. I might be Evil, but I’m not that EVIL.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/990 "2009-03-07T00:52:30Z")

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I just noticed:

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> (Any of the remaining actions have no affect on any victory conditions, so I won’t bother.)

From reading the spoiler boards, this is not true. **Zsophia** (very nobly) targeted **Boozahol** with an action, and therefore would have a chance of dying from his traps, and therefore would potentially not meet her win conditions.

That’s dedication to the Team, there, actually decreasing your own chances of winning for the sake of improving your teammates’ chances.

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/991 "2009-03-07T00:59:39Z")

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Oh, I just wanted to add that I’m probably going to take a hiatus from the Dope. You’ll still see me around on both Idle’s site and domebo, but probably not here for a little bit.

Thanks, again, Pleo. Your games have definitely been the most fun out of all the games I’ve participated in. Way to rock the Open Setup.

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/992 "2009-03-07T01:14:29Z")

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So the playlist.

Turn 0 : [The Revealing Science of God (Dance of the Dawn) _by_ Yes](http://www.last.fm/music/Yes/_/The+Revealing+Science+of+God).  
Turn 1 : [Bohemian Rhapsody _by_ Queen](http://www.last.fm/music/Queen/_/Bohemian+Rhapsody).  
Turn 2 : [Hotel California _by_ The Eagles](http://www.last.fm/music/Eagles/_/Hotel+California).  
Turn 3 : [Karn Evil Nine, 1[sup]st[/sup] Impression, Part 2 _by_ Emerson, Lake and Palmer](http://www.last.fm/music/Emerson%252C%2BLake%2B%2526%2BPalmer/Brain+Salad+Surgery/Karn+Evil+9%3A+1st+Impression+-+Part+2).  
Turn 4 : [You’ll Never Walk Alone _by_ Gerry and the pacemakers](http://www.last.fm/music/+noredirect/Gerry+and+The+Pacemakers/_/You%27ll+Never+Walk+Alone).  
Turn 5 : [Epitaph _by_ King Crimson](http://www.last.fm/music/King+Crimson/In+The+Court+Of+The+Crimson+King).  
Post-game : [We Are the Champions _by_ Queen](http://www.last.fm/music/Queen/_/We+Are+the+Champions).

I’m sure Days 1 and 2 were fairly well known.

I’m sorry that Last.fm don’t have a sampler for Epitaph, which is on the linked album. Oh well, maybe one day.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/993 "2009-03-07T15:49:36Z")

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> [@MHaye](#):
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> So the playlist.
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> Turn 0 : [The Revealing Science of God (Dance of the Dawn) _by_ Yes](http://www.last.fm/music/Yes/_/The+Revealing+Science+of+God).  
> Turn 1 : [Bohemian Rhapsody _by_ Queen](http://www.last.fm/music/Queen/_/Bohemian+Rhapsody).  
> Turn 2 : [Hotel California _by_ The Eagles](http://www.last.fm/music/Eagles/_/Hotel+California).  
> Turn 3 : [Karn Evil Nine, 1[sup]st[/sup] Impression, Part 2 _by_ Emerson, Lake and Palmer](http://www.last.fm/music/Emerson%252C%2BLake%2B%2526%2BPalmer/Brain+Salad+Surgery/Karn+Evil+9%3A+1st+Impression+-+Part+2).  
> Turn 4 : [You’ll Never Walk Alone _by_ Gerry and the pacemakers](http://www.last.fm/music/+noredirect/Gerry+and+The+Pacemakers/_/You%27ll+Never+Walk+Alone).  
> Turn 5 : [Epitaph _by_ King Crimson](http://www.last.fm/music/King+Crimson/In+The+Court+Of+The+Crimson+King).  
> Post-game : [We Are the Champions _by_ Queen](http://www.last.fm/music/Queen/_/We+Are+the+Champions).
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> I’m sure Days 1 and 2 were fairly well known.
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> I’m sorry that Last.fm don’t have a sampler for Epitaph, which is on the linked album. Oh well, maybe one day.

I enjoyed your lyrics, **MHaye**. They added flavor to the game without being overly distracting. I wish I had done more roleplaying. Maybe if I wasn’t a Halfling _or_ Gnome - I had an identity crisis!

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/994 "2009-03-07T16:18:09Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
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> I enjoyed your lyrics, **MHaye**. They added flavor to the game without being overly distracting. I wish I had done more roleplaying. Maybe if I wasn’t a Halfling _or_ Gnome - I had an identity crisis!

Yeah, I thought that was kind of weird too. I wondered why Pleonast didn’t pick one. Then I thought, oh I get it, Halfing or gnome, we don’t really care and aren’t really paying attention.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/munchkin-mini-mafia/485633/995 "2009-03-07T17:04:20Z")

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> [@sachertorte](#):
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> Yeah, I thought that was kind of weird too. I wondered why Pleonast didn’t pick one. Then I thought, oh I get it, Halfing or gnome, we don’t really care and aren’t really paying attention.

Didn’t get that until you just explained it. Cute 🙂

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