Municipal Court respect

Oh yeah! Wasn’t that about the same time as “separate but equal” was par for the course in schools, and separate waterfountains were common for blacks? Those were the days when people knew how to respect each other! :rolleyes:

Like this guy? :slight_smile:

So, nothing that happened in this country from 1776-1964 can be considered positive since along side whatever that is, racial discrimination was taking place?:rolleyes:

I had to go to a court to plead not guilty on a ticket a goddamn did not deserve (I’m bitter, what?) and I have to say I was genuinely surprised when I showed up and was literally the only person out of 100 or so folks that wasn’t wearing jeans. I was in there a while and had a lot of time to people watch and I quite literally was the only person not wearing jeans.

The judge kept kicking out people for being dressed inappropriately, at least. (There’s a dress code posted on the door).

I am pretty sure people weren’t wearing suits on planes during most of that period. We are talking about the “nostalgic suits on planes era” in this sub-thread.

jtgain, If you are not sure of a point I am making, there is no shame in asking for a clarification instead of displaying a bigger mess out of your misunderstanding than need be. I am here for you buddy if you are really open to it :slight_smile:

Exactly :slight_smile:

I wonder what happened after his five minutes was up?

One time when I was in municipal court to get a traffic ticker diverted, I got to see the most unusual divorce proceeding. The small town I got ticketed in, apparently let the municpal court handle the divorce proceedings as well.

Apparently the wife was filing for divorce on the grounds of infidelity. She claims that the husband was sleeping with a co-worker, and had been for several months. The husband’s defense was that he wasn’t romantically interested in his co-worker and she wasn’t romantically interested in him. But he was helping her get pregnant, because she wanted a kid. They had drafted up some sort of contract relieving him of any financial responsibilities, and gave up any parental rights for the child. I never found out if the 2nd woman was in fact pregnant, and the judge continued the case wanting more evidence from the husband.

Several years ago I appeared in district court on a minor issue. Didn’t get completely duded up, but did wear a tie and a nice sport coat. Was mistaken for one of the lawyers several times.

The lack of respect in clothing at least has become so great at the district and municipal court in my area that they now have a dress code on their website and posted at the doors and every notice that gets sent (I am told…I have not received any myself).

The dress code is not strict, and certainly even poverty level litigants (or prospective jurors) can manage. Here is an excerpt:

Wait a minute…there was just a thread about the exact same type of situation…a Doper was helping a woman he met on Craigslist get pregnant…and he was married, I believe…

My dad worked for an airline, and up until the time he died in 1981, employees and their families had to be dressed up when flying…shirt and tie if you flew first class. We stuck out like sore thumbs on that plane!

They still do have to dress up a bit, at least at some airlines.

My son’s father works for an airline and when son is flying on his account he cannot wear jeans or t-shirts (at least not if he is going first class) and must have a belt and closed-toe shoes. He usually wears nice dress pants and a button down shirt because there is always the possibility of being bumped to first class and not being able to accept the upgrade might make the difference between catching the flight or missing it (family members fly stand-by with few exceptions).

Most of these things are practical, except for this one – in some cases body piercings are not practical or even possible to remove.

True, but notice it does say “visible” so I would imagine that if a litigant had a particularly difficult or impossible to remove piercing it could be covered up for court and remain within the guidelines- even if that meant a silly-looking small band-aid across a nose or eyebrow or what have you.

And keep in mind that this is a po-dunk county of Kansas. I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to enact all kinds of rules that would be shot-down if challenged. :slight_smile:

Not just blacks – there were far too many no-blacks-nor-Jews facilities. “Separate but equal, my boron compressor!”

Getting back to the main point, once upon a time air travel had a dress code for all passengers, either formally or culturally. GQ time: Did air travel in the heyday of the DC-3 have a required dress code substantially above “generally decent”?

Awesome. Can you clarify, then?

This thread is about dressing appropriately. Why bring up racism? How off-topic can you get?

There can be some benefits to showing up to court in rags.

From my experience as an attorney in civil actions, when a Defendant does not hire counsel and shows up to court looking like crap, there is a presumption by the court that this person is truly poor and receives a good amount of sympathy from the judge.

From my experience, a Defendant is not afforded the same sympathy when he/she looks presentable and/or hires counsel.

I can imagine how showing up in rags to a criminal trial could lead to just the opposite.

-R. Incognito

When I used to work armored, we serviced the (major metropolitan) county offices, including the court house(s) and jail.

Shabby clothing? That’s the least of it.

Hell, I’ve seen people threaten violence against county officials with over a dozen county sheriffs deputies, city cops and security guards within earshot. I promise that does not end well.

I’ve seen groups of people walking through the court house lobbies speaking VERY LOUDLY and very profanely - to the point of having a cloud of deputies descend on them to silence them - then throwing a very loud fit because they didn’t think they were doing anything wrong.

Ever seen the episodes of COPS where the people (usually women) try to tell the police officer that he has no authority over them, can’t speak to them that way, is being rude, etc? With those same people, it usually doesn’t get any better in court.

If I misunderstood you, I apologize. Another poster said that we used to wear suits on planes, and you responded with what seems to be an off-topic snark about how we used to practice racial discrimination as well. I didn’t see the connection.

Yes. But the airline also didn’t treat passengers like shit.

Sounds like this episode of The Ron Thread.