# Muppet Madness (Round Two)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppet-madness-round-two/455097>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 2, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppet-madness-round-two/455097 "2008-07-02T20:54:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [July 2, 2008, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppet-madness-round-two/455097/21 "2008-07-02T22:25:16Z")

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1. Kermit the Frog (Hail to the king, baby)

2. Grover (He beats Crazy Harry just on the merits of “There’s A Monster At The End Of This Book”)

3. Dr. Teeth

4. The Swedish Chef

5. Cookie Monster

6. Ernie

7. Beaker

8. Gonzo (This was a tough one)

9. Robin the Frog (Another tough one)

10. Guy Smiley

11. Fozzie Bear

12. Statler and Waldorf

13. Miss Piggy

14. Herry Monster

15. Sam the Eagle (He could also win on “Titwillow” alone.)

16. Rowlf (This was the toughest because I love Honeydew, but Rowlf beats him. He is one of the best [and oldest] muppets. I loved the “Old Brown Ears” album)

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**Post date:** [July 2, 2008, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppet-madness-round-two/455097/22 "2008-07-02T23:05:17Z")

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Jim Henson Division  
8 Rizzo (sympathy vote for the underrat)  
2 Grover  
6 Dr Teeth  
5 Snuffleupagus

Frank Oz Division  
1 Cookie Monster  
2 Ernie  
6 Beaker  
Gonzo vs. Animal? I call it a draw.

Dave Goelz Division  
8 Robin  
2 Count von Count  
3 Fozzie  
5 Scooter

Richard Hunt Division  
1 Miss Piggy  
2 Bert  
3 Sam  
5 Rowlf

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppet-madness-round-two/455097/23 "2008-07-03T00:05:50Z")

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**Jim Henson Division**

[Rizzo the Rat](http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Rizzo_the_Rat)  
2. Grover  
6. [Dr. Teeth](http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Dr._Teeth)  
4. The Swedish Chef

**Frank Oz Division**

1. Cookie Monster
2. [The Newsman](http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/The_Newsman)
3. Beaker
4. Gonzo

**Dave Goelz Division**

1. Big Bird
2. [Guy Smiley](http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Guy_Smiley)
3. Fozzie Bear
4. Statler and Waldorf

**Richard Hunt Division**

1. Miss Piggy
2. Bert
3. [Mahna Mahna](http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Mahna_Mahna_%28character%29)  
vs 5. Rowlf

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppet-madness-round-two/455097/24 "2008-07-03T00:10:23Z")

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**Jim Henson Division**

1. Kermit the Frog

2. Grover

3. Dr. Teeth

4. The Swedish Chef

**Frank Oz Division**

1. Cookie Monster

2. Ernie

3. Oscar the Grouch

4. Gonzo

**Dave Goelz Division**

1. Big Bird

2. Guy Smiley

3. Fozzie Bear

4. Statler and Waldorf

**Richard Hunt Division**

1. Zoot

2. Bert

3. Sam the Eagle

4. Rowlf

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppet-madness-round-two/455097/25 "2008-07-03T00:14:14Z")

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**Jim Henson Division**

1. Kermit the Frog
2. Grover  
Dr. Teeth
3. The Swedish Chef

**Frank Oz Division**

1. Cookie Monster
2. Ernie  
Beaker  
Animal

**Dave Goelz Division**

1. Big Bird
2. Count von Count
3. Fozzie Bear
4. Statler and Waldorf

**Richard Hunt Division**

1. Miss Piggy
2. Bert  
Mahna Mahna
3. Dr. Bunson Honeydew

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppet-madness-round-two/455097/26 "2008-07-03T00:48:10Z")

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**Jim Henson Division**

1. Kermit the Frog (Oddly enough this is a no-brainer for me. For some reason Rizzo always just grated. He has had some great lines, but they were in spite of the character, not because of him.)
2. Crazy Harry (How can sweet and stupid compete with explosions?)
3. Dr. Teeth (As one of those who voted against Elmo in the first round, I can’t see how this will surprise anyone.)
4. The Swedish Chef (Bork.bork.bork.)

**Frank Oz Division**

1. Cookie Monster
2. Ernie
3. Oscar the Grouch
4. Gonzo

**Dave Goelz Division**

1. Big Bird
2. Count von Count
3. Fozzie Bear
4. Statler and Waldorf

**Richard Hunt Division**

1. Zoot
2. Herry Monster
3. Mahna Mahna
4. Rowlf

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**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppet-madness-round-two/455097/27 "2008-07-03T01:23:27Z")

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1. Kermit the Frog (no surprise there, I guess)

2. Grover (Hello everybodeeeee! Grover gets votes from me based on “The Monster at the End of this Book”)

3. Dr. Teeth (I forgot to mention that I will _always_ anti-Elmo vote)

Aloysius Snuffleupagus  
Frank Oz Division

1. Cookie Monster (I’m so happy that I don’t yet have to agonize over a Cookie Monster vs. Animal vote)

2. Ernie

3. Oscar the Grouch

4. Animal (but apparently, I _do_ have to agonize over a Gonzo vs. Animal vote.)  
Dave Goelz Division

5. Big Bird

6. Guy Smiley

7. Janice (Just about anyone but Elmo would beat Fozzie.)

8. Statler and Waldorf  
Richard Hunt Division

9. Zoot

10. Herry Monster

11. Sam the Eagle

12. Rowlf (Wow, I voted against Beaker _and_ Bunson in the same round. Bad Kat!)

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppet-madness-round-two/455097/28 "2008-07-03T01:35:58Z")

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**Jim Henson Division**

1. Kermit the Frog

2. [Crazy Harry](http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Crazy_Harry)

3. [Dr. Teeth](http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Dr._Teeth)

4. The Swedish Chef

**Frank Oz Division**

1. Cookie Monster

2. Ernie

3. Beaker

4. Animal

**Dave Goelz Division**

1. Big Bird
2. Count von Count
3. Fozzie Bear
4. Statler and Waldorf

**Richard Hunt Division**

1. [Zoot](http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Zoot)
2. Bert
3. Sam the Eagle
4. Dr. Bunson Honeydew

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppet-madness-round-two/455097/29 "2008-07-03T01:48:36Z")

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1. Rizzo the Rat

2. Grover

3. Dr. Teeth

4. The Swedish Chef

5. Cookie Monster

6. The Newsman

7. Oscar the Grouch

8. Animal

9. Robin the Frog

10. Guy Smiley

11. Fozzie Bear

12. Statler and Waldorf

13. Miss Piggy

14. Herry Monster

15. Sam the Eagle

16. Dr. Bunson Honeydew

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppet-madness-round-two/455097/30 "2008-07-03T02:35:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Parthol]

**Jim Henson Division**

1. Kermit the Frog
2. Grover  
6.Dr. Teeth
3. The Swedish Chef

**Frank Oz Division**

1. Cookie Monster
2. The Newsman
3. Oscar the Grouch
4. Animal

**Dave Goelz Division**  
8. Robin the Frog  
2. Count von Count  
6. Janice  
4. Statler and Waldorf

**Richard Hunt Division**

1. Miss Piggy
2. Bert
3. Sam the Eagle
4. Rowlf

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppet-madness-round-two/455097/31 "2008-07-03T02:41:28Z")

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**Jim Henson Division**

1. Kermit the Frog – How can you vote against that!

2. Grover – Well, _Monster at the End of This Book_ is my favorite book!

3. Elmo – Hate me if you want, but we like him at our house.

4. Aloysius Snuffleupagus – Hard hard hard

**Frank Oz Division**

1. Cookie Monster – LOVE LOVE LOVE

2. Ernie – Sure he can be annoying, but think about some of his songs! The one where he imagines he is all the different things is amazing.

3. Oscar the Grouch – We enjoy him a lot here.

4. Gonzo – I love him!

**Dave Goelz Division**

1. Big Bird

2. [Guy Smiley](http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Guy_Smiley) – Hard, because I like the Count, but I just have a soft spot for Guy Smiley.

3. Fozzie Bear

4. Statler and Waldorf – Have to vote for them, but I do love Scooter. ☹

**Richard Hunt Division**

1. [Zoot](http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Zoot) – Hate Miss Piggy, and wouldn’t even care who Zoot was (but since I’ve voted against Electric Mayhem so much, I’m glad to vote for him)

2. Bert – I feel so sorry for him. All he wants is to read, and play with Bernice, and count his bottle caps, and SLEEP!

3. [Mahna Mahna](http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Mahna_Mahna_%28character%29)  
vs 5. Rowlf

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppet-madness-round-two/455097/32 "2008-07-03T02:51:32Z")

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I was gonna keep voting for Waldorf & Statler and screw the rest of the muppets, but now that the matchups are getting more interesting, I’m gonna start voting seriously.

1. Rizzo the Rat

vs 7. Crazy Harry

1. Dr. Teeth

2. The Swedish Chef

3. Cookie Monster  
vs 10. The Newsman

4. Oscar the Grouch  
vs 5. Animal (jesus man…TOUGH TOUGH choice, but I gotta go with the muppet inspired by Keith Moon!)

Dave Goelz Division

1. Big Bird vs 8. Robin the Frog (I abstain - two of the most annoying muppets ever?)
2. Count von Count  
vs 6. Janice
3. Statler and Waldorf (FTW!)

vs 9. Zoot  
2. Bert  
3. Sam the Eagle

1. Dr. Bunson Honeydew (another really tough one - science or music?)

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**Jim Henson Division**

1. Kermit the Frog
2. Grover
3. [Dr. Teeth](http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Dr._Teeth)
4. The Swedish Chef

**Frank Oz Division**

1. Cookie Monster
2. [The Newsman](http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/The_Newsman)
3. Oscar the Grouch
4. Gonzo

**Dave Goelz Division**

1. Big Bird
2. Count von Count
3. Fozzie Bear
4. Statler and Waldorf

**Richard Hunt Division**

1. Miss Piggy
2. [Herry Monster](http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Herry)
3. Sam the Eagle
4. Rowlf

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Now the competition is getting tight- Oscar vs. Beaker is a strong matchup, as is Grover vs. Crazy Harry.

**Jim Henson Division**

1. Kermit the Frog
2. Grover
3. Elmo
4. The Swedish Chef

**Frank Oz Division**

1. Cookie Monster
2. Ernie
3. Oscar the Grouch
4. Gonzo

**Dave Goelz Division**

1. Big Bird
2. Count von Count
3. Fozzie Bear
4. Statler and Waldorf  
**Richard Hunt Division**
5. Miss Piggy
6. Bert
7. Sam the Eagle
8. Rowlf

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**Jim Henson Division**

1. Kermit the Frog - the green guy forever!
2. Grover - he’s my old pal; how can I not vote for him?
3. [Dr. Teeth](http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Dr._Teeth)
4. The Swedish Chef - bork, bork, bork!

**Frank Oz Division**

1. Cookie Monster - ah nom, nom, nom!
2. Ernie
3. Oscar the Grouch
4. Gonzo

**Dave Goelz Division**

1. Big Bird
2. [Guy Smiley](http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Guy_Smiley)
3. Fozzie Bear - wakka, wakka, wakka!
4. Statler and Waldorf

**Richard Hunt Division**

1. Miss Piggy
2. Bert
3. [Mahna Mahna](http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Mahna_Mahna_%28character%29) - doot, doo, dododo!
4. Rowlf

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppet-madness-round-two/455097/36 "2008-07-03T03:44:33Z")

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**Jim Henson Division**

1. Rizzo\_the\_Rat
2. Grover
3. Dr. Teeth
4. The Swedish Chef

**Frank Oz Division**

1. Cookie Monster
2. Ernie
3. Beaker
4. Gonzo

**Dave Goelz Division**

1. Big Bird
2. Count von Count
3. Fozzie Bear
4. Statler and Waldorf

**Richard Hunt Division**

1. Zoot
2. Bert
3. Mahna\_Mahna
4. Rowlf

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppet-madness-round-two/455097/37 "2008-07-03T03:59:39Z")

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I don’t know why they called him Crazy Herry. He seemed perfectly reasonable to me. Now Grover…there was an irrational fellow.

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**Jim Henson Division**

1. Kermit the Frog

2. Grover

3. Dr. Teeth

4. The Swedish Chef

**Frank Oz Division**

1. Cookie Monster

2. [The Newsman](http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/The_Newsman)

3. Oscar the Grouch

4. Animal

**Dave Goelz Division**

1. [Robin the Frog](http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Robin_the_frog)

2. [Guy Smiley](http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Guy_Smiley)

3. [Janice](http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Janice)

4. Statler and Waldorf

**Richard Hunt Division**

1. Miss Piggy

2. [Herry Monster](http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Herry)

3. Sam the Eagle

4. Dr. Bunson Honeydew

Joe

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**Jim Henson Division**

1. Kermit the Frog
2. Grover
3. Elmo
4. The Swedish Chef

**Frank Oz Division**

1. Cookie Monster
2. Ernie
3. Beaker
4. Gonzo

**Dave Goelz Division**

1. Big Bird
2. Count von Count
3. Janice
4. Statler and Waldorf

**Richard Hunt Division**

1. Miss Piggy
2. Bert
3. Sam the Eagle
4. Rowlf

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Damn. Marvin Suggs and Lew Zealand both knocked out in the first round. There goes my bracket.

I’ll have my picks for this round later.

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