# Muppets' New Movie = Flop?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppets-new-movie-flop/593602>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 22, 2011, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppets-new-movie-flop/593602 "2011-08-22T01:47:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jinx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Jinx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jinx)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppets-new-movie-flop/593602/1 "2011-08-22T01:47:11Z")

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Is it just me, or do the previews for the new Muppet movie look terrible? I think Brian Henson is just wanting TOO much to be his Dad. I’m sorry, Brian, but you don’t have the gift (based on all you’ve done). Other opinions???

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppets-new-movie-flop/593602/2 "2011-08-22T01:56:03Z")

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[At D23(Disney convention), a reviewer seemed to like what they showed.](http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50905)

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppets-new-movie-flop/593602/3 "2011-08-22T01:56:30Z")

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Jason Segal was one of the writers for it and is apparently a huge fan of the Muppets. That sounds kind of unusual to me, but it also sounds like an “outsider” to the Muppets franchise might actually be able to pull it off.

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**Author:** ![monkeylucifer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@monkeylucifer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monkeylucifer)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppets-new-movie-flop/593602/4 "2011-08-22T02:16:10Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> [At D23(Disney convention), a reviewer seemed to like what they showed.](http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50905)

I haven’t trusted anything posted on AICN in years.

Still, I hope this is a good movie.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppets-new-movie-flop/593602/5 "2011-08-22T02:26:06Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> Jason Segal was one of the writers for it and is apparently a huge fan of the Muppets. That sounds kind of unusual to me

He made it the high point of Forgetting Sarah Marshall.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppets-new-movie-flop/593602/6 "2011-08-22T12:51:05Z")

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> [@Jinx](#):
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> I think Brian Henson is just wanting TOO much to be his Dad. I’m sorry, Brian, but you don’t have the gift (based on all you’ve done). Other opinions???

Brain Henson is continuing to work in a world in which he’s been immersed since childhood. He didn’t wait unti his father’s death to quit his accounting job to begrudgingly take over the family business- he had been working _alongside_ his father since before he even reached adulthood. He is dedicated to a stewardship of The Muppets in a way that none of his father’s colleagues, including Frank Oz, could ever be.

The made for T.V. movies of the past decade have been lackluster, but Brian Henson directed _A Muppet Christmas Carol_, which was quite good, as well as _Muppet Treasure Island_- which was fucking _awesome_. The 90s T.V. series _Muppets Tonight!_ was excellent, the recent children’s T.V. series have been good, particularly _Sid the Science Kid_. And the original shorts for The Muppets YouTube channel have been brillaint.

Beside which, his involvement with the upcoming movie is simply as head of the company, in addition to performing a few of the minor characters that he’s been performing for years. He’s not listed as Director nor Producer. He’s been creatively hands-off on this particular project.

As **Intergalactic Gladiator** mentioned, Jason Segel is the main writer. The director is James Bobin, who directed much of _Da Ali G Show_ and _Flight of the Conchords_. I’m quite interested to see a guy like that share his creative input on a Muppets project.

And it’s probably not just you who thinks the previews look terrible, but from previous discussions on this board it seems not to be a majority opinion.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppets-new-movie-flop/593602/7 "2011-08-22T14:07:22Z")

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How can it possibly be a flop before it’s even been released? And my understanding is that the new Muppet movie is, like the new Winnie the Pooh movie, intended to move merchandise as much as sell tickets. So box office revenues don’t matter as much.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muppets-new-movie-flop/593602/8 "2011-08-22T14:07:22Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> as well as _Muppet Treasure Island_- which was fucking _awesome_.

Seconded… laik uh bawsz!
