# 'Murder, He Says' (1945) music and NPR's 'All Things Considered' theme music

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**Created:** [August 26, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murder-he-says-1945-music-and-nprs-all-things-considered-theme-music/1006227 "2024-08-26T03:00:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murder-he-says-1945-music-and-nprs-all-things-considered-theme-music/1006227/1 "2024-08-26T03:00:38Z")

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_Murder, He Wrote_ (1945) is on TCM right now. A piece of music plays into the plot. It’s the [same music](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5MKiTdWo4E) NPR uses to introduce _All Things Considered_.

What is it? Who composed it? When was it composed?

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murder-he-says-1945-music-and-nprs-all-things-considered-theme-music/1006227/2 "2024-08-26T03:50:16Z")

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Is this it?

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Qkq5CFGOBH4/hqdefault.jpg "Current NPR All Things Considered Theme") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkq5CFGOBH4)

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murder-he-says-1945-music-and-nprs-all-things-considered-theme-music/1006227/3 "2024-08-26T03:51:54Z")

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Here is the part that should go under the screen capture:

> The current theme for National Public Radio’s All Things Considered evening news program. This theme was made in 1995, when trombonist and composer Wycliffe Gordon retooled Don Voegeli’s original 1971 theme.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murder-he-says-1945-music-and-nprs-all-things-considered-theme-music/1006227/4 "2024-08-26T03:57:37Z")

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By the way, the name of the movie is “Murder, He Says” as part of Fred MacMurray day on TCM. The movie music is by Robert Emmet Dolan, uncredited. Since the above info says that the original music for All Things Considered was written in 1971 by Don Voegeli, either Mr. Voegeli copied it from the original source, or else the movie music is not the same.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murder-he-says-1945-music-and-nprs-all-things-considered-theme-music/1006227/5 "2024-08-26T08:39:53Z")

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John Williams used the same melody in the score for _Jaws_:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/y-FUlMas2AA/maxresdefault.jpg "Promenade (Tourists On The Menu)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-FUlMas2AA)

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murder-he-says-1945-music-and-nprs-all-things-considered-theme-music/1006227/6 "2024-08-26T10:25:21Z")

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And the Eyewitness News theme came from here:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/SOWkPk2ETXc/hqdefault.jpg "Cool Hand Luke 'Tar Sequence' / News Theme") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOWkPk2ETXc&t=0s)

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murder-he-says-1945-music-and-nprs-all-things-considered-theme-music/1006227/7 "2024-08-26T10:30:05Z")

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I used to think the theme song for the Canadian radio show “As It Happens” was a jazzy version of “(I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction”, but it turns out it’s an original song called “Curried Soul”.

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KjTnwmHbwDc/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AH-BIAC4AOKAgwIABABGGUgZShlMA8=&rs=AOn4CLBaiVok5WB9MDBfJu_aWrswdvAr4Q "Moe Koffman - Curried Soul") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjTnwmHbwDc)

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murder-he-says-1945-music-and-nprs-all-things-considered-theme-music/1006227/8 "2024-08-26T11:08:16Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> All Thinks Considered

You’ve got another thing/think comin’!

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murder-he-says-1945-music-and-nprs-all-things-considered-theme-music/1006227/9 "2024-08-26T12:13:51Z")

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On the Phish album “Rift” there is a song called “All Things Reconsidered”, which finally dawned on me after many years that it’s actually loosely based on the “All Things Considered” theme. (I think I posted this awhile back in the “Things you realize after a million times” thread.)

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/38JnZFiRUTo/maxresdefault.jpg "All Things Reconsidered") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38JnZFiRUTo)

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murder-he-says-1945-music-and-nprs-all-things-considered-theme-music/1006227/10 "2024-08-26T13:29:27Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> By the way, the name of the movie is “Murder, He Says”

I realised that as I opened my inbox just now, and saw the title repeated over and over in the email subject lines. I’ll ask for a change.

> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> > [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> > All Thinks Considered
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> You’ve got another thing/think comin’!

DOH! I _have_ noticed more typos since my injury. ☹

> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> the original music for All Things Considered was written in 1971 by Don Voegeli, either Mr. Voegeli copied it from the original source, or else the movie music is not the same.

_Bird Note_ has the same music as the jingle for the Campho-Phenique commercial from the '70s. (🎶_Stop hurting, stop healing, with Campho-Phenique_ 🎶 )

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murder-he-says-1945-music-and-nprs-all-things-considered-theme-music/1006227/11 "2024-08-26T20:26:42Z")

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I excuse all typos.

God knows I’ve had some doozies.  
I had a broken couple of fingers on my hand, let’s see…17 years ago, yeah, I’m going with “after my injury” from now on.😊

(Not minimizing your injury, just jokin’)

BTW, that was about the most awful movie I’ve seen in a few months. What a waste of McMurray’s talent.
