Murderers are not crazy people

Well that assumes crazy means completely irrational, and illogical, whereas that is just one form of craziness.

There is no reason why someone cannot be rational and crazy, operating by their own logic.

We’ve all seen individuals who carry out crazy acts, perhaps professional suicide, and those acts took an amount of preparation and planning.

I think that the word crazy itself means different things to different people

My gf is a professional psychologist (I’m seeing a shrink! ;)) I posed the question to her: is it better to think of these people as crazy or evil? The answer was, “Both are subjective and socially defined.”

I see the OP is from Romania, so perhaps this is not particularly relevant to him/her. Here in the United States, however, I believe that calling a murderer, and particularly a mass murderer, as crazy is just a dodge. If we can say that the guy who shot up a church only about an hour from where I am sitting right now has a mental illness, then that absolves us from any responsibility to take action.

Calling such a person mentally ill is not so that we can better diagnose and treat such people. It is so that I can sit back and claim superiority. A hurricane came through my area a few months ago. No one deserved the destruction it brought. It’s the weather. We can try to predict it better and we can have plans to deal with it when it happens, but we know that hurricanes are going to happen sometimes. No need to complain about them.

The same is true about mass shootings and mental illness. If we say that the person was perfectly rational, then we (society at large) must acknowledge some degree of responsibility. Saying he’s mentally ill makes it an act of God, just like the weather.

I could say that anything human is relevant to me, not because of its particularity but because of the way it may fall under a general rule.

But in fact my brother lives in Nashville, Tennessee, where he graduated high school, university, got a job as an engineer, married, had four children and stuff. He left Romania soon after the collapse of communism whereas I chose to stay.

I agree.

My brother regards America as the cradle of modern democracy. If the USA is as democratic as it claims to be, then its citizens should be able to effect the social changes that will prevent the high number of murdered and disappeared people (most of whom must be actually dead). In my opinion, the correct attitude toward the perpetrators is that they should pay for what they have done and society should make sure potential perpetrators should find it difficult to commit murder.