# Murdoch Schadenfrude **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 17, 2011, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353 "2011-07-17T15:44:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/21 "2011-07-18T15:35:03Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > Before takeover did the WSJ make up stories for a political point of view? > > [McDonald’s will drop healthcare for](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703431604575522413101063070.html) > > [McDonald’s says it is not true.](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/HealthCare/mcdonalds-fights-back-report-drop-health-care-plan/story?id=11764596) > > Very inaccurate reporting. Was that something the WSJ did before RM bought it out? I don’t know. You’re citing one case. Before Murdoch the WSJ was very right of center, and they didn’t seem to change afterwards, and I can’t think of how they could go further right and maintain their readership, and I would not have expected a left turn. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/22 "2011-07-18T16:25:47Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I thought Schadenfrude was a guilty pleasure. I feel no guilt, nor see any reason to. But I’m getting plenty of enjoyment. Conservatives don’t care what a piece of crap anybody on there side is. Just in the interest of fighting a misconception, _schadenfreude_ is NOT " a guilty pleasure". It is the act of taking pleasure in someone else’s discomfort. Any guilt that stems from that pleasure is entirely separate from the concept. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/23 "2011-07-18T17:06:04Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > As long as he keeps signing the paychecks, nobody in his employ will care what a shitbag he is. He’s right, you know. –Hal Briston: Property of Rupert Murdoch since 2007. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/24 "2011-07-18T17:10:02Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > He’s right, you know. > > –Hal Briston: Property of Rupert Murdoch since 2007. Aaand I have a new sig line! ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/25 "2011-07-18T18:47:02Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > Just in the interest of fighting a misconception, _schadenfreude_ is NOT " a guilty pleasure". It is the act of taking pleasure in someone else’s discomfort. Any guilt that stems from that pleasure is entirely separate from the concept. Ok, then I got a shitload of schadenfreude out of this one. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/26 "2011-07-18T19:00:00Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > He’s right, you know. > > –Hal Briston: Property of Rupert Murdoch since 2007. > [@silenus](#): > > Aaand I have a new sig line! _\_ Awww, I thought it was going to be “Property of Rupert Murdoch since 2007” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/27 "2011-07-18T19:07:14Z")
This meteoric fall is certainly fun and satisfying. I can only dream that it leads to the liquidation of FOX. I’d like to see MSNBC buy up the remains of FOX News and scatter them hither and yon. Let Bill O’Reilly have to beg Rachel Maddow for work. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/28 "2011-07-18T19:38:51Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > [Quote=silenus] > As long as he keeps signing the paychecks, nobody in his employ will care what a shitbag he is. He’s right, you know. –Hal Briston: Property of Rupert Murdoch since 2007. [/QUOTE] Sheep worrier. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/29 "2011-07-18T19:51:29Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > As long as he keeps signing the paychecks, nobody in his employ will care what a shitbag he is. Nor will any of his viewers. > [@silenus](#): > > I’m really hoping this keeps unraveling to the point that the whole family ends up doing serious jail time, any number of politicians and police are canned and the media empire is dismantled. Me, too! > [@Lochdale](#): > > And there was a concern that he would influence the WSJ editorial board (mostly a fear of dumbing it down) but that hasn’t happened. I beg to differ. [News and Its Critics](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303661904576451812776293184.html?mod=djkeyword) Fucking coward didn’t even have the balls to put his name to that piece of crap. > [@TriPolar](#): > > I don’t know. You’re citing one case. Before Murdoch the WSJ was very right of center, and they didn’t seem to change afterwards, and I can’t think of how they could go further right and maintain their readership, and I would not have expected a left turn. The “Right” aren’t the only people who read the WSJ. :rolleyes: Liberals/Democrats read the WSJ to get a balanced view of the news. Too bad the “Right” can’t be as, dare I say it?, Fair and Balanced. ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/30 "2011-07-18T19:58:01Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > [News and Its Critics](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303661904576451812776293184.html?mod=djkeyword) > > Fucking coward didn’t even have the balls to put his name to that piece of crap. It’s standard protocol for a newspaper’s editorial (as opposed to an op-ed column) to be unsigned. It’s “the voice of the newspaper”, and is in all probability written by committee, or the entire editorial board. This doesn’t change the self-serving and mealy-mouthed nature of the article itself, but it’s not out of cowardice that it’s unsigned. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/31 "2011-07-18T20:31:10Z")
> [@Raygun99](#): > > It’s standard protocol for a newspaper’s editorial (as opposed to an op-ed column) to be unsigned. It’s “the voice of the newspaper”, and is in all probability written by committee, or the entire editorial board. > > This doesn’t change the self-serving and mealy-mouthed nature of the article itself, but it’s not out of cowardice that it’s unsigned. EXCELLENT! Then I can officially blame EVERY member of the WSJ Editorial Board, and reiterate my divergence with **Lochdale’s** absurd notion that they haven’t been influenced by Murdcock. ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/32 "2011-07-18T20:33:30Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > EXCELLENT! Then I can officially blame EVERY member of the WSJ Editorial Board, I would even encourage it. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/33 "2011-07-18T20:37:35Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > As long as he keeps signing the paychecks, nobody in his employ will care what a shitbag he is. Of course, a number of people are now _out_ of his employ, and likely not the last to feel the axe’s steely bite… ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/34 "2011-07-18T21:29:52Z")
The whistleblowing reporter who was involved in the initial break of the story [was found dead earlier today](http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/18/news-of-the-world-sean-hoare?CMP=twt_gu). Don’t wish to speculate, but odd timing in any event. The rumor (perhaps unfounded) is that he had a drug and alcohol problem. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/35 "2011-07-18T21:37:03Z")
I’m pretty right-wing, at least by UK standard, and I’m fucking loving Murdoch getting what’s coming to him. It has nothing to do with political views, and everything to do with honesty. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/36 "2011-07-18T21:49:52Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > The “Right” aren’t the only people who read the WSJ. :rolleyes: Liberals/Democrats read the WSJ to get a balanced view of the news. Too bad the “Right” can’t be as, dare I say it?, Fair and Balanced. That’s why I said they couldn’t go further right without losing their readership. The WSJ did provide a balance to some other sources, but they were definitely right of center. They often seemed further away from center by publishing a lot of extremely conservative opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/37 "2011-07-18T21:56:01Z")
Hey speaking of Rupert Murdoch and honesty, did you see what Fox did the other night? [The Most Incredible Thing Fox News Has Ever Done](http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/07/the-most-incredible-thing-fox-news-has-ever-done/242037/) To sum up: News Corp. is really the victim in this whole hacking scandal thing. There’s video at that link, and you can read more at [newshounds](http://www.newshounds.us/2011/07/18/more_spin_of_news_corp_phone_hacking_scandal_from_fox_news_watch.php) if you want to see how Murdoch is using his media channels to try and re-spin this whole thing. Oh yeah, plus there’s [that whole dead guy thing](http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/18/uk.phone.hacking.hoare/) that **John DiFool** brought up already. Is it just me or is the “fired for drug and alcohol problems and then killed himself because he was despondent” rationale just a bit too pat (and too movie-like)? ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/38 "2011-07-18T22:45:13Z")
I know it’s the Pit, but for a bit of levity. . . [Murdoch’s Sun hacked, Headline read Murdoch’s “Body Discovered”](http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2011/07/18/photoh-the-suns-home-page-hacked-redirects-to-article-saying-rupert-murdoch-is-dead/). LMAO! ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/39 "2011-07-18T23:45:35Z")
Murdoch is going down like Ari Gold on **Entourage** last season. Which reminds me, I gotta order HBO. Does Murdoch have any connection to HBO? **Shayna** , more like VVC, since someone is dead now. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/40 "2011-07-19T02:15:36Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > Just in the interest of fighting a misconception, _schadenfreude_ is NOT " a guilty pleasure". It is the act of taking pleasure in someone else’s discomfort. Any guilt that stems from that pleasure is entirely separate from the concept. Thus I may feel a twinge of guilt at my enjoyment of the trainwreck, in awareness of the jobs lost and the institutions tarnished – but I need not feel too bad at all that I want to see the big parties who profited from this mess be made to squirm… mind you, I do not wish for their ruin, but just to see them have to bow their heads. They got too filled with hubris. If in the process they proceed to remind the people in the Inquiry Committee of their own glass roofs, well, that’s a bonus benefit, fair enough. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353.md?page=3)