# Murdoch Schadenfrude

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 17, 2011, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353 "2011-07-17T15:44:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/41 "2011-07-19T04:38:02Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> I’m pretty right-wing, at least by UK standard, and I’m fucking loving Murdoch getting what’s coming to him. It has nothing to do with political views, and everything to do with honesty.

Greetings to a fellow Democrat.

> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> This meteoric fall is certainly fun and satisfying. I can only dream that it leads to the liquidation of FOX. I’d like to see MSNBC buy up the remains of FOX News and scatter them hither and yon. Let Bill O’Reilly have to beg Rachel Maddow for work.

If somebody pulls together the [$60 billion](http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/07/18/could-news-corp-end-up-in-play/) necessary to buy News Corp, Fox News would almost assuredly stay intact, as it is highly profitable. News Corp is a TV and entertainment company: their print divisions make up a small share of their profits, though they do provide people to be interviewed.  
That said, I’m enjoying the way this scandal has revealed the highly paid staff of Fox News and the WSJ to be utterly compliant lickspittles. Their apologistics are even more tortured than their usual brown-nosing of the GOP. Heck, the WSJ’s spittle-flecked editorial page seems to think that [criminal bribery should be protected by the First Amendment](http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/07/18/the-real-rupert-murdoch-exposed/). See also Snowboarder Bo’s link, where Fox News hosts draw a modern conservative parallel between Citicorp --a _victim_ of criminal hacking-- and News Corp – a _perpetrator_ of the same. Their gullible audience can’t tell the difference! Or check out Bill O’Reilly’s deafening silence on the matter, never mind his past blustery calls for an FBI investigation of the hacking into Sarah Palin’s email. I guess it’s ok if you work for Rupert.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/42 "2011-07-19T06:59:07Z")

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If you think it is just the newspapers, [url=[http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/18/business/media/for-news-corporation-troubles-that-money-cant-dispel.html](http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/18/business/media/for-news-corporation-troubles-that-money-cant-dispel.html)] here is a column by David Carr outlining NewCorp’s other little problems, including

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> And in the most costly payout, it spent half a billion dollars in 2010 on another settlement, just days before the case was scheduled to go to trial. The plaintiff, Valassis Communications, had already won a $300 million verdict in Michigan, but dropped the lawsuit in exchange for $500 million and an agreement to cooperate on certain ventures going forward.

And even better is one of their top execs

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> News America was led by Paul V. Carlucci, who, according to Forbes, used to show the sales staff the scene in “The Untouchables” in which Al Capone beats a man to death with a baseball bat. Mr. Emmel testified that Mr. Carlucci was clear about the guiding corporate philosophy.
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> According to Mr. Emmel’s testimony, Mr. Carlucci said that if there were employees uncomfortable with the company’s philosophy — “bed-wetting liberals in particular was the description he used” Mr. Emmel testified — then he could arrange to have those employees “outplaced from the company.”

They are corrupt through and through.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/43 "2011-07-19T07:11:25Z")

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> [@Raygun99](#):
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> It’s standard protocol for a newspaper’s editorial (as opposed to an op-ed column) to be unsigned. It’s “the voice of the newspaper”, and is in all probability written by committee, or the entire editorial board.
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> This doesn’t change the self-serving and mealy-mouthed nature of the article itself, but it’s not out of cowardice that it’s unsigned.

The editorial board has a meeting, usually daily, and there are motions and votes on what to editorialize about and what position to take. Then the editorial opinion is assigned to an editor to get written. Usually the opinion page editor, but anyone can write it. Then it is circulated and okay’d by the editors who voted in favor. Back in the day I used to be an opinion page editor and that is how we did it.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/44 "2011-07-19T13:05:50Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> Oh no, he’s intolerant of someone whose ‘news’ empire deliberately and constantly fabricates lies for propaganda purposes on one hand, and hires criminals to prey on the vulnerable on the other! The scandal!

On a similar note, I think we should stop generalizing about pedophiles. After all, generalizations are bad. If only **Lochdale** would stop generalizing about “liberals”. But then again, only one side of the spectrum is actually expected to be consistent.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/45 "2011-07-19T17:16:17Z")

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> [@Shayna](#):
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> EXCELLENT! Then I can officially blame EVERY member of the WSJ Editorial Board, and reiterate my divergence with **Lochdale’s** absurd notion that they haven’t been influenced by Murdcock.

Yup, 'cuz the _WSJ_ editorial board had to be _“influenced by Murdock (sic)”_ to write a self-serving editorial that tries to defend the _WSJ_’s reputation. I can’t even imagining them being self-serving without orders from above! It just wouldn’t happen!

ETA: Just do be clear, I’m not saying they don’t take orders from Murdoch; I’m saying it really wouldn’t be necessary in this case, they’d be writing about the same thing either way.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/46 "2011-07-19T18:46:30Z")

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Rupert gets pie in the face:

> **[WATCH: Rupert Murdoch Hit In Face With A Pie At Hearing](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rupert-murdoch-pie-video_n_903508)**
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> WATCH: Rupert Murdoch Hit In Face With A Pie At Hearing

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**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/47 "2011-07-19T22:28:24Z")

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_Normally_ I think that revelling in the sordid details of someone else’s humilliation is a very low thing to do, and that the inevitable crowd of reporters sticking their microphones in someone’s face rather resembles a swarm of flies that have found fresh dung heap.

In the case of tabloids, however, I consider turnabout to be fair play. Karma, pure and simple.

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/murdoch-schadenfrude/589353/48 "2011-07-20T01:23:14Z")

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I got a chuckle out of this:

[Subliminal horns on Rupert Murdoch during testimony](http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/subliminal_horns_on_rupert_murdoch_during_testimony/)

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