# Musashi found by Paul Allen.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musashi-found-by-paul-allen/714203>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 4, 2015, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musashi-found-by-paul-allen/714203 "2015-03-04T16:05:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musashi-found-by-paul-allen/714203/1 "2015-03-04T16:05:56Z")

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[Link](http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/03/intl_world/paul-allen-japanese-battleship-musashi/index.html)

Too cool. One of the largest battleships ever built. Nice to see Allen is spending his billions on cool stuff.

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**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musashi-found-by-paul-allen/714203/2 "2015-03-04T16:11:47Z")

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In two words ( 😉 ): awe-some

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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musashi-found-by-paul-allen/714203/3 "2015-03-04T16:43:41Z")

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I like the fact that even after these years, the Japanese government is interested so they can have a memorial service at the site. You can say what you want about WW II but they really know how to honor and respect their lost soldiers and sailors.

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**Author:** ![Hermitian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hermitian/32/470_2.png) [@Hermitian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermitian)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musashi-found-by-paul-allen/714203/4 "2015-03-04T17:03:29Z")

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And I didn’t even know it was missing!

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musashi-found-by-paul-allen/714203/5 "2015-03-04T17:08:59Z")

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> [@kopek](#):
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> I like the fact that even after these years, the Japanese government is interested so they can have a memorial service at the site. You can say what you want about WW II but they really know how to honor and respect their lost soldiers and sailors.

And, of course, the US, UK, France and Russia would just say “Aw, f\*ck 'em, they’re dead.”

(Well, no. But we wouldn’t make a national perpetual ritual out of honoring them, butchers, war criminals and all, either.)

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**Author:** ![Katsumi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@Katsumi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katsumi)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musashi-found-by-paul-allen/714203/6 "2015-03-04T17:30:45Z")

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The CNN reporter read Paul Allen’s yacht’s name as “My Octopus”.

The MY is the vessel classification. Like SS for Steam Ship as in SS Titanic.

It is MY Octopus - Motor Yacht Octopus.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musashi-found-by-paul-allen/714203/7 "2015-03-04T18:13:34Z")

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> [@Katsumi](#):
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> It is MY Octopus

Okay, okay, it’s YOUR octopus. I’ll let Paul know.  
🙂

That is pretty funny, though.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musashi-found-by-paul-allen/714203/8 "2015-03-04T18:29:30Z")

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The Musashi was 800ft long and 121ft wide. How can you “not” find something that large? 😉

Congratulations to Paul Allen and crew.  
Musashi -

> **[Japanese battleship Musashi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_battleship_Musashi)**
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> Musashi (武蔵), named after the former Japanese province, was one of four planned Yamato-class battleships\[N 1\] built for the Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN), beginning in the late 1930s. The Yamato-class ships were the heaviest and most powerfully armed battleships ever constructed, displacing almost 72,000 long tons (73,000 t) fully loaded and armed with nine 460-millimetre (18.1 in) main guns. Their secondary armament consisted of four 155-millimetre (6.1 in) triple-gun turrets formerly used C...

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musashi-found-by-paul-allen/714203/9 "2015-03-04T18:52:49Z")

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Good on Allen and his crew. An impressive warship, and good to have her found at long last.

> [@Katsumi](#):
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> …Like SS for Steam Ship as in SS Titanic…

Nitpick: it was the RMS (Royal Mail Ship) _Titanic_.

> **[Royal Mail Ship](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Mail_Ship)**
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> Royal Mail Ship (sometimes Steam-ship or Steamer), usually seen in its abbreviated form RMS, is the ship prefix used for seagoing vessels that carry mail under contract to the British Royal Mail. The designation dates back to 1840. Any vessel designated as "RMS" has the right both to fly the pennant of the Royal Mail when sailing and to include the Royal Mail "crown" insignia with any identifying device and/or design for the ship.
> It was used by many shipping lines, but is often associated in ...

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musashi-found-by-paul-allen/714203/10 "2015-03-05T00:41:34Z")

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> [@kopek](#):
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> I like the fact that even after these years, the Japanese government is interested so they can have a memorial service at the site. You can say what you want about WW II but they really know how to honor and respect their lost soldiers and sailors.

> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> And, of course, the US, UK, France and Russia would just say “Aw, f\*ck 'em, they’re dead.”
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> (Well, no. But we wouldn’t make a national perpetual ritual out of honoring them, butchers, war criminals and all, either.)

Did you ever think of changing your name from “amateur” Barbarian to “professional” Barbarian?

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musashi-found-by-paul-allen/714203/11 "2015-03-05T04:43:36Z")

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> [@samclem](#):
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> Did you ever think of changing your name from “amateur” Barbarian to “professional” Barbarian?

No money in going pro, and I’d lose my deferment.

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musashi-found-by-paul-allen/714203/12 "2015-03-05T05:52:21Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> And, of course, the US, UK, France and Russia would just say “Aw, f\*ck 'em, they’re dead.”
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> (Well, no. But we wouldn’t make a national perpetual ritual out of honoring them, butchers, war criminals and all, either.)

If memory serves one of the first Congressional Medals of Honor was granted for killing a ton of American Indian women and children … Just saying.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musashi-found-by-paul-allen/714203/13 "2015-03-05T14:20:47Z")

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Enough hijack. It’s very cool that such a large wreck was found by a small amateur crew, and better that it wasn’t Clive Cussler again.

I predict that more and more such lost wrecks will be found by relatively small expeditions - down to hobbyists and true amateurs - as the technology gets cheaper and all it takes is time and dedication.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musashi-found-by-paul-allen/714203/14 "2015-03-05T15:55:11Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> The Musashi was 800ft long and 121ft wide. How can you “not” find something that large? 😉
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> Congratulations to Paul Allen and crew.  
> Musashi -  
> [Japanese battleship Musashi - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_battleship_Musashi)

I have seen that many people just don’t get how much area the ocean (or even just a small part of it) covers. They seem confused just how a ship can escape from being found, even when it’s on the surface.

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**Author:** ![Hermitian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hermitian/32/470_2.png) [@Hermitian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermitian)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2015, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musashi-found-by-paul-allen/714203/15 "2015-03-06T16:12:44Z")

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> [@kopek](#):
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> I like the fact that even after these years, the Japanese government is interested so they can have a memorial service at the site. You can say what you want about WW II but they really know how to honor and respect their lost soldiers and sailors.

At the height of the cold war, the US secretly pulled up a portion of a Soviet Submarine from the ocean floor. Inside the portion they recovered were six Soviet sailors. From Wikipedia:

“The bodies of six crewmen were also recovered, and were subsequently given a memorial service and with military honors, buried at sea in a metal casket because of radioactivity concerns.”

A video of this was later given to Russia in the early nineties.
