# Museum exhibit to show dinosaurs and man co-existing

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [January 3, 2005, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756 "2005-01-03T00:02:59Z")
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### Author: ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2005, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/1 "2005-01-03T00:02:59Z")

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Because, you know, that’s how it is in the Bible.

[Link](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/01/02/weden02.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/01/02/ixworld.html).

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> “We want people to be confronted by the dinosaurs,” said Mr Ham. “It’s going to be a first class experience. Visitors are going to be hit by the professionalism of this place. It is not going to be done in an amateurish way. We are making a statement.”

Yes. A statement that you are ignoring established and accepted scientific opinion.

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> More controversial exhibits deal with diseases and famine, which are portrayed not as random disasters, but as the result of mankind’s sin. Mr Ham’s Answers in Genesis movement blames the 1999 massacre at Columbine High School in Colorado, in which two teenagers killed 12 classmates and a teacher before killing themselves, on evolutionist teaching, claiming that the perpetrators believed in Darwin’s survival of the fittest.

:eek:

I am horrified at this monument to ignorance.

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### Author: ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2005, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/2 "2005-01-03T00:05:59Z")

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Painstaking research.

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### Author: ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)
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> The centrepiece of the museum is a series of huge model dinosaurs, built by the former head of design at Universal Studios, which are portrayed as existing alongside man, contrary to received scientific opinion that they lived millions of years apart.

How exciting! I hope they show the cavemen riding the Jesus Horses, just like Fred Flintstone!

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### Author: ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2005, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/4 "2005-01-03T00:16:51Z")

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I don’t know, it sounds like it would be worth a visit. one can learn about Christian compassion:

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> Mr Ham is particularly proud of a planned reconstruction of the interior of Noah’s Ark. “You will hear the water lapping, feel the Ark rocking and perhaps even hear people outside screaming,” he said.

and fidelity to scientific integrity:

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> Elsewhere, animated figures will be used to recreate the Garden of Eden, while in another room, visitors will see a tyrannosaurus rex pursuing Adam and Eve after their fall from grace. “That’s the real terror that Adam’s sin unleashed,” visitors will be warned.

And the GOP Dopers who pretend that they actually care about fighting ignorance should feel very proud of their accomplishments:

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> "Since President Bush’s re-election we have been getting more membership applications than we can handle,’’ said Mr Ham, who expects not just the devout, but also the curious, to flock through the turnstiles. “The evolutionary elite will be getting a wake-up call.”

Still Mr. Ham and the AIG are johnny-come-latelys to the creationist museums biz; Kent “Dr. Dino” Hovind has one in his back [yard](http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1127748/posts)

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### Author: ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2005, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/5 "2005-01-03T00:16:56Z")

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Fortunately it appears that no taxpayer money went to funding this creationist theme park, so we can save the inevitable four-page SOCAS discussion for another day.

I wonder if GLAAD or anyone else will have something to say about the thing’s mention of us GLBTQA folks and AIDS.

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### Author: ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2005, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/6 "2005-01-03T00:17:23Z")

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> Mr Ham’s Answers in Genesis movement blames the 1999 massacre at Columbine High School in Colorado, in which two teenagers killed 12 classmates and a teacher before killing themselves, on evolutionist teaching, claiming that the perpetrators believed in Darwin’s survival of the fittest.

At least they’re not blaming video games anymore.

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### Author: ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2005, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/7 "2005-01-03T00:24:15Z")

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> Mr Ham is particularly proud of a planned reconstruction of the interior of Noah’s Ark. “You will hear the water lapping, feel the Ark rocking and perhaps even hear people outside screaming,” he said.

I wonder if Mr Shem and Mr Japhet will agree with cashing in on such a traumatic family ordeal?

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### Author: ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2005, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/8 "2005-01-03T00:34:11Z")

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> [@gobear](#):
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> And the GOP Dopers who pretend that they actually care about fighting ignorance should feel very proud of their accomplishments:

I was wondering when this was going to come up. You know, not all of us who voted for Bush are evangelical Christians or believe the universe was created in six days and is only 6,000 years old.

Just because Mr. Ham wants to take Bush’s re-election as a sign that the US is becoming more fundamental Christian doesn’t make it so.

Now, can we please get back to discussing the merits of the exhibit, and keep the Bush-bashing for another time? I mean, there’s so much juicy detail to this exhibit, Dinky the Dinosaur the least of it, I’d rather not hijack it into a Bushbashfest.

Thanks. 🙂

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### Author: ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2005, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/9 "2005-01-03T00:34:51Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> I wonder if Mr Shem and Mr Japhet will agree with cashing in on such a traumatic family ordeal?

[nitpick]Thought it was Japeth.[/nitpick] Wonder if part of that exhibit will be the “after” - all those lifeless corpses laying on the ground. Or does Ham think they were miraculously cleaned up afterward? I’d hate to think of the ensuing disease - er, I mean, all that sin-based punishment even after physical death.

[sub]To protest it would give it legitimacy, but it also leaves it standing, which could be interpreted as indifference or acceptance. Hmm…[/sub]

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### Author: ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2005, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/10 "2005-01-03T00:35:03Z")

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Mr. Ham is clearly doin his best to establish new and even more amazing levels of stupidity. He’s pressing the envelope on ignorance! I stand in awe of this Ham among men who so proudly displays his cluelessness to the world!

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### Author: ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)
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> [@ivylass](#):
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> Because, you know, that’s how it is in the Bible.

Sorry, darling, but… CITE?  
It’s not the Bible. It’s in warped Creationist’s thinking.  
As a God fearing Christian mother fucking wanker myself, I am appalled at anyone trying to say that the universe took 6 24hr days to come into existance, or that dinos and man coexisted, but such seems to be my miserable fate, to be lumped in with non thinking extremists even by my friends.

Remember, not all Christians give credence to the man made farce of Creationism.

With that out of the way. What a bunch of maroons! I’d go just to laugh in front of them.

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### Author: ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)
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Before anyone jumps in, let me point out that there is a huge difference between believing in a God as a First Cause and believing in Creationism.

Just fighting ignorance, nothing to see here, move along…

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### Author: ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2005, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/13 "2005-01-03T00:39:19Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> It’s not the Bible. It’s in warped Creationist’s thinking.

Try telling Mr. Ham that.

And, **NCB** , I wasn’t lumping all Christians in with Answers in Genesis. I know it’s the more extreme wing of the Christian community, you know, the ones that think the tsunamis were God’s retribution against the infidels.

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### Author: ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2005, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/14 "2005-01-03T00:39:33Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> I was wondering when this was going to come up. You know, not all of us who voted for Bush are evangelical Christians or believe the universe was created in six days and is only 6,000 years old.
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> Just because Mr. Ham wants to take Bush’s re-election as a sign that the US is becoming more fundamental Christian doesn’t make it so.

I was going to say something like this (minus the part about actually voting for Bush, natch;)) but figured someone else could probably say it better.

[sub] **NCB** , I think she was being sarcastic.[/sub]

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### Author: ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)
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Colour me red!  
I would like to talk to Mr. Ham. Is his e-mail listed anywhere on that site? 😃

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### Author: ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2005, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/16 "2005-01-03T00:42:08Z")

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Try Googling Answers in Genesis. I would, but I’m afraid. 😃

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### Author: ![stegon66](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee59a6/32.png) [@stegon66](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stegon66)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2005, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/17 "2005-01-03T00:44:05Z")

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> Elsewhere, animated figures will be used to recreate the Garden of Eden…

How much you wanna bet said figures (presumably Adam and Eve) won’t be naked?

Argh. Stuff like this makes my head hurt. :rolleyes:

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### Author: ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2005, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/18 "2005-01-03T00:45:45Z")

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And the T-Rex chasing them out of Eden just cracks me up. I thought that it was the Angel Michael that drove them out of Eden?

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### Author: ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2005, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/19 "2005-01-03T00:48:59Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> Colour me red!  
> I would like to talk to Mr. Ham. Is his e-mail listed anywhere on that site? 😃

I didn’t trust my temper on that site, so go from [here](http://www.answersingenesis.org/).

**stegon** , I’m curious also about what eye color will be prominent, considering the geographic location of the events (as asserted in the Bible, not as portrayed by Ham) in question.

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### Author: ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2005, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/20 "2005-01-03T00:52:30Z")

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> [@Amp](#):
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> At least they’re not blaming video games anymore.

Or Marilyn Manson! Although I think that Manson, given his band’s declining fortunes, would probably welcome being blamed for something.

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