# Museum exhibit to show dinosaurs and man co-existing **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 3, 2005, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756 "2005-01-03T00:02:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/21 "2005-01-03T00:56:53Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > And the T-Rex chasing them out of Eden just cracks me up. I thought that it was the Angel Michael that drove them out of Eden? I thought God drove them out in a Plymouth. A Plymouth FURY. ;j Interestingly, they don’t list a proper e-mail address on their site. Rather, they have a [Question Submission](http://www.answersingenesis.org/feedback/sendmail.aspx?TopicID=Theological) page with this disclaimer: > [@](#): > > Please note: Due to the volume of emails we receive, we can not guarantee a quick reply to your message. Some replies may take as long as several months. We appreciate your patience, and we will get to your message as soon as possible. I’m going to link to some actual Bible passages and current scientific research while applying my own brand of hard to grasp logical developement and see how long it takes to get a response. Qa’plah! ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/22 "2005-01-03T00:59:19Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > I’m going to link to some actual Bible passages and current scientific research while applying my own brand of hard to grasp logical developement and see how long it takes to get a response. Qa’plah! May I respectfully suggest that you not hold your breath. That “replies can take several months” sounds like ass-covering, if you ask me. But please, let us know what you send them. Perhaps we can have **Polycarp** and others review the submission, so everything is watertight. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/23 "2005-01-03T01:00:48Z")
> [@stegon66](#): > > How much you wanna bet said figures (presumably Adam and Eve) won’t be naked? In all fairness, I should point out that when the account has them driven out in the back of a '71 Ford F-100, they already had clothes. Anything before that, though, and the account has them nekkid. IDEA! _::runs thru Eden nekkid::_ ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/24 "2005-01-03T01:03:58Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > #1 -May I respectfully suggest that you not hold your breath. That “replies can take several months” sounds like ass-covering, if you ask me. > > But please, let us know what you send them. #2 - Perhaps we can have **Polycarp** and others review the submission, so everything is watertight. #1 - Probably right. #2 - No offense, but I have held my own on my own with fundie theologins for many, many years now. But thanks for the thought. (no sarcasm, really) ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/25 "2005-01-03T01:07:39Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > #1 - Probably right. > > #2 - No offense, but I have held my own on my own with fundie theologins for many, many years now. But thanks for the thought. (no sarcasm, really) Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply you were less than a worthy intellect for Answers in Genesis. Two brains are better than one and all, is all I was suggesting. Go for it! I still want to see what you submit, if it won’t be considered a board war. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/26 "2005-01-03T01:09:56Z")
Oh, and this I gotta see: > [@](#): > > A display showing ancient Babylon will deal with the Tower of Babel and "unravel the origin of so-called races’’ 😕 ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/27 "2005-01-03T01:18:21Z")
When I have it done, I’ll e-mail a mod and see if I can post my essay. If not, I’ll e-mail it to any who want it. Don’t mail your requests yet, please. I’ll have a working draft available sometime within a week. And it will be a serious, non flaming response to the tired Creationism mindset. While being cordial, I will not pull punches. I firmly believe Creationism to be a blight on all of Christianity, somewhere just behind the Crusades. JEEBUS! Even in the Genesis account, the confusing of languages at the Tower of Babel has nothing to do with race. See!? You wonder why stuff like this infuriates me? **Ivy** , I’ll e-mail you a copy before I submit. Maybe our FTSFS I-III Team could help polish it up after all. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/28 "2005-01-03T01:19:46Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > 😕 Best guess is the guy is taking the story of the issuing out of diversity of languages as an implication that this was also when folks magically looked different to “fit” their new language. Anyone else wondering about the details of a possible (don’t remember seeing it mentioned in the article, don’t really feel like defiling myself by looking at the site) Moses-receives-the-ten-commandments scene? Language? Punctuation? Version of Bible verses used? Inaccuracies in translation (“thou shalt not kill” indeed)? ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/29 "2005-01-03T01:20:24Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > **Ivy** , I’ll e-mail you a copy before I submit. Maybe our FTSFS I-III Team could help polish it up after all. Well, I’m not a Christian, but maybe I can throw in some serious questions. I’ll be happy to take a look. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/30 "2005-01-03T01:24:52Z")
How’s this for a working title? (I use titles as a thematic tool. The proper title should imply the theme, imho.) **Creation: The Bible, the Facts, Logic, and You** or maybe… **Creation: The Bible, Logic, and Your Faith** ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/31 "2005-01-03T01:25:08Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > I was wondering when this was going to come up. You know, not all of us who voted for Bush are evangelical Christians or believe the universe was created in six days and is only 6,000 years old. > > Just because Mr. Ham wants to take Bush’s re-election as a sign that the US is becoming more fundamental Christian doesn’t make it so. > > Now, can we please get back to discussing the merits of the exhibit, and keep the Bush-bashing for another time? I mean, there’s so much juicy detail to this exhibit, Dinky the Dinosaur the least of it, I’d rather not hijack it into a Bushbashfest. Ahem, I didn’t hijack the thread–I commented on what Ken Ham said **in the article**. I didn’t bring up Bush, Ken Ham did. Or are you saying that we may only be snarky about the things you agree we should snark on, but not comment on any part of the article that you agree with? I’m not interested in bashing Bush, but the idea that one may not comment on what was said in an article referenced in the OP is rubbish. ---
**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/32 "2005-01-03T01:26:27Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > And the T-Rex chasing them out of Eden just cracks me up. I thought that it was the Angel Michael that drove them out of Eden? But a _T-Rex_ with a flaming sword is waaaaaaay cooler. Now, if only it were a T-Rex with a flaming sword wearing one of those pointy German helmets… ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/33 "2005-01-03T01:27:16Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > How’s this for a working title? (I use titles as a thematic tool. The proper title should imply the theme, imho.) > **Creation: The Bible, the Facts, Logic, and You** > > or maybe… > > **Creation: The Bible, Logic, and Your Faith** How about this: **Creation: Faith, Facts and Fallacies** ? ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/34 "2005-01-03T01:29:08Z")
You said, > [@](#): > > And the GOP Dopers who pretend that they actually care about fighting ignorance should feel very proud of their accomplishments. I assumed you were making a sarcastic comment about Mr. Ham’s assumptions about the 2004 elections. Not all GOPers would agree with Mr. Ham’s interpretation of the Bible, and I was just trying to head off at the pass any possible hijack into political mudslinging. I apologize if I misunderstood you. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/35 "2005-01-03T01:30:29Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Oh, and this I gotta see: > > > [@](#): > > > > A display showing ancient Babylon will deal with the Tower of Babel and "unravel the origin of so-called races’’ > > 😕 My guess is that it’s going to go back to Ham-ish though about the races. So, not only is this thing going to be creationistic to a ridiculous extreme, but very likely racist, too. ☹ :mad: ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/36 "2005-01-03T01:31:58Z")
> [@iampunha](#): > > How about this: > > **Creation: Faith, Facts and Fallacies** > > ? That’s my #1 choice for the time being. Make suggestions or vote by Wednesday, when I’ll begin working on it. I have to watch OU beat the Condoms on Tuesday, you see. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/37 "2005-01-03T01:33:53Z")
Brings up an interesting question, reflecting on the GD thread about dietary restrictions, and such. Adam and Eve, having escaped the Tyrannousourus and all, were still Jews, yes? Even though it preceded the writing of Leviticus, and the restrictions laid out there…were they stiil forbidden to eat Jurassic pork? ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/38 "2005-01-03T01:34:21Z")
I don’t see it being racist; my assumption, and I could be wrong, is that Mr. Ham is assimilating current anthropological opinion that race is an artificial construct with no basis in science into the creationist trope that Darwin invented racism. ---
**Author:** ![Sample\_the\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Sample\_the\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sample_the_Dog)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/39 "2005-01-03T01:35:18Z")
[QUOTE=gobear] And the GOP Dopers who pretend that they actually care about fighting ignorance should feel very proud of their accomplishments [QUOTE] Cheap shot, **gobear**. Granted, since I’ve decided to leave the party, I’m probably not the best spokesperson here, but not all of us are knee-jerk ideologues, and not all of us voted for Bush. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2005, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756/40 "2005-01-03T01:39:11Z")
All this chit-chat and not a single link to the Creation Museum has been offered. Let me rectify that! [The Creation Museum - Take the walk-thru - I insist!](http://www.answersingenesis.org/museum/walkthrough/) > [@](#): > > T. rex—the real king of the beasts. That’s the terror that Adam’s sin unleashed! You’ll run into this monster lurking near Adam and Eve. How’s this possible? Find out soon! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/museum-exhibit-to-show-dinosaurs-and-man-co-existing/282756.md?page=3)