# Music Creators Assemble!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-creators-assemble/979626>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** music\
**Created:** [February 11, 2023, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-creators-assemble/979626 "2023-02-11T17:06:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-creators-assemble/979626/99 "2023-06-12T23:54:57Z")

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> [@DPRK](#):
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> At any rate, it was composed and performed with a computer being integral to the process—it would have been hard to impossible to do it another way— but nothing was composed “by” the computer, if you understand what I mean.

I do know exactly what you mean. I’ve created a whole new thread for discussing whether computers in music is real music or not so that we can keep this one cleaner. In the OP, I’ve focused purely on algorithmic music, but certainly the use of computers in music is more widespread and valid (I think when you get into AI generated music then it gets a bit murkier).

> [@Algorithmic Music - Is it real music?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/algorithmic-music-is-it-real-music/985391/):
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> @Disinfectus has claimed in another thread that music created using any type of computer is not real music. My question for him (and anybody is): Is Laurie Spiegel a musician and composer? She is one of the pioneers in algorithmic music. The wikipedia lists her as a composer. If algorithmic music isn’t real music, then why does Oxford Press have a handbook dedicated to it? [https://academic.oup.com/edited-volume/28278](https://academic.oup.com/edited-volume/28278) How about Pierre Schaeffer? [Pierre Schaeffer - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Schaeffer) Is this no…

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