# Music for Easter services?

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**Created:** [April 12, 2009, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-for-easter-services/492823 "2009-04-12T07:53:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cunctator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Cunctator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cunctator)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-for-easter-services/492823/1 "2009-04-12T07:53:23Z")

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Anyone doing anything interesting? This morning we sang Palestrina’s _Missa Papae Marcelli_, as well as Lassus’ \*Regina Coeli \*and Byrd’s _Terra Tremuit_.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-for-easter-services/492823/2 "2009-04-12T11:26:45Z")

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For Good Friday our choir sang _Stabat Mater Dolorosa_, in Latin, by Josef Rheinberger(1839-1901). It’s not time yet to leave for Easter Day service here in the USA, but I hear the choir will be doing Handel’s _Hallelujah Chorus_. During Lent Brahms has been featured for musical selections.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-for-easter-services/492823/3 "2009-04-12T16:27:21Z")

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Nothing interesting today - I’m out of town, rehearsing La Traviata and we have a day off today. I’ll probably sing through the solos in the b Minor Mass in the practice studio later on.

I heard a lovely concert on Good Friday - a double bill of the Tomas Luis de Victoria Requiem, followed by the John Rutter Requiem. For the Victoria, the choir sang with only the stand lights and the Bass soloist read the text before each movement, to give the effect as though the mass were actually being said at the funeral of the Empress Maria.

The Rutter, hmpf, it was well sung. I sang it once about 20 years ago, and every note was just as I remembered it; the actual ‘Requiem’ motif sounds just like a line from ‘Leavin’ on a Jet Plane’ to my jaded ear… An old friend of mine was the soprano soloist, and she floated those lines beautifully. The piece just isn’t to my taste, I’m afraid.

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-for-easter-services/492823/4 "2009-04-12T18:21:32Z")

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Nothing special. “Thou Hallowed Chosen Morn” by Sowerby, and some minor chorus by Handel that everyone seemed to know…

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-for-easter-services/492823/5 "2009-04-12T20:47:59Z")

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The usual suspects.

Jesus Christ is risen today  
Christ is alive  
The Day of Resurrection  
Hallelujah

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-for-easter-services/492823/6 "2009-04-12T23:41:46Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> The usual suspects.
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> Jesus Christ is risen today

Not surprisingly, we processed to this. I accused the music director of going out on a limb with it… 😃

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**Author:** ![Cunctator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Cunctator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cunctator)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-for-easter-services/492823/7 "2009-04-13T00:06:35Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> The Day of Resurrection

We did this as a recessional yesterday morning. We processed in with _The Strife is O’er_.

For the Maundy Thursday evening mass we sang Byrd’s \*Ave Verum \*and Durufle’s _Ubi Caritas_. On Good Friday at the Passion we did a slightly weird harmonised version of the various Tracts, as well as Victoria’s \*O Vos Omnes \*and his alternatim version of the _Trisagion_. At Tenebrae we did his Responsories (we like Victoria’s music), and Allegri’s _Miserere_. The Vigil service on Saturday night was all chant, except for a couple of harmonised psalm tones.

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-for-easter-services/492823/8 "2009-04-13T00:44:11Z")

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A brass quintet performed “Up From the Grave” then the choir sang “Jesus Rose” with orchestral accompianment (or maybe “Risen to Reign”).

Then we sang “Christ the Lord is Risen Today” with the congregation–and with a killer descant. (Note: I’m a second soprano. This means that at every opportunity I avoid singing the notes featured in this descant. But since the director said “On verse 4, everyone sing melody except ALL the sopranos” and considered that things were going well when the sound guy couldn’t hear melody on verse four, I was stuck with the killer descant. )

Then we sang a jazz-y song by Roald Dilworth(I think) --I thought it sounded kinda Gospel in rehearsal, especially with our New Orleans pianist, but when you add a saxophone, it brings out the jazz feel.

Then we sang “In Christ Alone” which is a contemporary praise chorus thing-y (except it actually has verses with decent (meaning nonrepetitive) lyrics, so maybe it isn’t a praise chorus thing-y) --with the congregation.  
We then sang “Worthy is the Lamb” which is definitely contemporary and lame, except for the fact that it had orchestra with it, and it ended with a big transition into “Crown him With Many Crowns” which the congregation sang along with as the choir added frills and flourishes.

And then the Brass quintet played again, and we relaxed for the few minutes between services.

It was really cool when at the last service (of 3) people actually stood in place and listened to the Brass quintet for a minute or two before they started bustling towards the doors.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-for-easter-services/492823/9 "2009-04-13T00:45:23Z")

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> [@Cunctator](#):
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> We did this as a recessional yesterday morning. We processed in with _The Strife is O’er_.
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> For the Maundy Thursday evening mass we sang Byrd’s \*Ave Verum \*and Durufle’s _Ubi Caritas_. On Good Friday at the Passion we did a slightly weird harmonised version of the various Tracts, as well as Victoria’s \*O Vos Omnes \*and his alternatim version of the _Trisagion_. At Tenebrae we did his Responsories (we like Victoria’s music), and Allegri’s _Miserere_. The Vigil service on Saturday night was all chant, except for a couple of harmonised psalm tones.

I like Victoria’s music as well, and I don’t get to hear enough of it. There’s lots about church singing I don’t miss, but I do miss having the excuse to read through some really beautiful music from time to time.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-for-easter-services/492823/10 "2009-04-13T01:34:39Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> The usual suspects.
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> Jesus Christ is risen today  
> Christ is alive  
> The Day of Resurrection  
> Hallelujah

OK. you’re an Episcopalian, right? Or at least a Lutheran?

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-for-easter-services/492823/11 "2009-04-13T06:40:02Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> I like Victoria’s music as well, and I don’t get to hear enough of it.

We have a couple of his masses in the repertoire (\*Missa O Quam Gloriosum \*and _Missa O Magnum Mysterium_) and roll them out reasonably often. And as you note, his Requiem is sublime. Whenever we have to sing a requiem that’s the first suggestion we make.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-for-easter-services/492823/12 "2009-04-13T13:31:43Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> OK. you’re an Episcopalian, right? Or at least a Lutheran?

Episcopalian. I imagine next week we will have some less popular hymns. I noticed quite a few of the Christmas and Easter only crowd on Sunday morning.

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-for-easter-services/492823/13 "2009-04-13T13:40:55Z")

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Good Friday we sang the Casales version of _O vos omnes_. I like that one the best. Besides, it teaches the sopranos that a G isn’t really that high a note! 😃

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-for-easter-services/492823/14 "2009-04-13T18:43:57Z")

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I attend the jazz/gospel service at my church (UCC), and we sang “Lift Every Voice and Sing”, “Glory, Glory Hallelujah”, a gospel song called “Rising Again”, “Defying Gravity” from the musical “Wicked”, and “Amazing Grace”.

Definitely not all your typical choices for Easter Sunday services. However, I was a little disappointed we didn’t do a jazzified version of “Christ the Lord is Risen Today” or “The Strife is O’er”, all of which practically _define_ Easter for me.

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-for-easter-services/492823/15 "2009-04-13T21:29:15Z")

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We did “Jesus Christ is Risen Today,” “Christ the Lord is Risen Today”, and “The Strife is O’er,” plus two I don’t recall.

Yes, very Anglican.

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-for-easter-services/492823/16 "2009-04-13T21:48:53Z")

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I wonder how many Episcopalians we have on the SDMB. There’s me, **dalej42** , **swampbear**. From the previous post it sounds like **Northern Piper** is “one of us” And there’s another one too but can’t recall just now.

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-for-easter-services/492823/17 "2009-04-13T21:56:11Z")

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For this Methodist, what’s the diff between “Jesus Christ Is Risen Today” and “Christ The Lord Is Risen Today”? Aren’t they sung to the same tune? If so, **Northern Piper’s** church ran the musical gambit from A to B. 🙂

Oh, and I too was with the 'Piscopals for Easter, since I was visiting famly who are members.

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-for-easter-services/492823/18 "2009-04-13T22:45:50Z")

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I sing in the choir for an Episcopalian Church here in Charlotte.

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-for-easter-services/492823/19 "2009-04-13T23:06:37Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> I sing in the choir for an Episcopalian Church here in Charlotte.

I might have been in the congregation, because Charlotte is where I was.

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**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-for-easter-services/492823/20 "2009-04-14T01:22:57Z")

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> [@Jodi](#):
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> For this Methodist, what’s the diff between “Jesus Christ Is Risen Today” and “Christ The Lord Is Risen Today”? Aren’t they sung to the same tune? If so, **Northern Piper’s** church ran the musical gambit from A to B. 🙂
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> Oh, and I too was with the 'Piscopals for Easter, since I was visiting famly who are members.

I learned something while writing a reply to you Jodi. I learned the two as completely different hymns, with different tunes. But while searching for links to illustrate this I found they are more in the nature of Siamese twins that have been seperated by surgery.

This link [http://hymnal.oremus.org/hwiki/index.php/Christ\_the\_Lord\_is\_risen\_today](http://hymnal.oremus.org/hwiki/index.php/Christ_the_Lord_is_risen_today) takes you to a hymn that has ten verses. The first seven, without the Alleluias, and to the tune _Orientis Partibus_, are what I have most often seen as Christ the Lord is Risen Today. But not the last three verses. Those, along with another verse not seen there, and in a differing order, are what I learned as “Jesus Christ is Risen Today” and are sung to a different tune, often refered to as _Easter Hymn_. See also this link [http://hymnal.oremus.org/hwiki/index.php/Jesus\_Christ\_is\_risen\_today](http://hymnal.oremus.org/hwiki/index.php/Jesus_Christ_is_risen_today)

Both hymns can be sung to either tune, as they have the same timing 77 77. But in both the current Episcopal Hymnal, and the current Lutheran hymnals, JCiRT is sung to _Easter Hymn_, while CtLiRT is sung to _Orientis Partibus_, and the latter doesn’t have the Alleluias at the end of each line.

Clear as mud, right? Charles Wesley wrote it(or them, depending on your point of view) , and it/them may be different in another denomination’s hymnal. I don’t have a copy of a Methodist hymnal.

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