# Music that will never be the same

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 15, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642 "2012-01-15T23:27:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fish\_Cheer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fish_cheer/32/17179_2.png) [@Fish\_Cheer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish_Cheer)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/1 "2012-01-15T23:27:10Z")

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I recently re-watched _Apocalypse Now!_ for the umpteenth time. When [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHjWDCX1Bdw&t=2m29s) part came up I realized something: I’m fairly sure that an entire generation who had probably never heard of Wagner before will hear the _Ride of the Valkyries_ and immediately think of _Apocalypse Now!_ for the rest of their lives. Can you think of any other examples of this?

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**Author:** ![Peanuthead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peanuthead/32/360_2.png) [@Peanuthead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanuthead)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/2 "2012-01-15T23:32:56Z")

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[The William Tell Overture](http://www.google.com/imgres?q=the+lone+ranger&hl=en&rls=ig&biw=1600&bih=787&gbv=2&tbm=isch&tbnid=Q93uAfx0iNrYcM:&imgrefurl=http://claytonmoore.tripod.com/&docid=S3vXIkJzdxyoNM&imgurl=http://claytonmoore.tripod.com/lr_silv8.jpg&w=250&h=317&ei=OmETT_79IcWCgAfS4YH3Aw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=398&vpy=151&dur=2035&hovh=253&hovw=199&tx=95&ty=104&sig=101475704138887912617&page=1&tbnh=129&tbnw=102&start=0&ndsp=44&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0). And I bet I really don’t even need a link. You _know_ what you’re going to see, don’t you?

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/3 "2012-01-15T23:41:44Z")

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No, no, when people hear The Ride of the Valkyries, they think, “Got to kill wabbits. Got to kill wabbits.”

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/4 "2012-01-15T23:54:15Z")

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> [@Peanuthead](#):
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> The William Tell Overture. And I bet I really don’t even need a link. You _know_ what you’re going to see, don’t you?

Nope, I didn’t.

But then, I hope y’all have been spared having The Dance of the Hours become associated with a brand of bouillon cubes - although I imagine you may have heard The Police explained as “the guys who did the Schweepes song” back in the '80s, since Schweepes is a more international brand than Avecrem (I did not kill my brother and did let him borrow the LP).

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/5 "2012-01-16T00:00:35Z")

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Quite a lot of people will never be able to hear Stuck In the Middle With You without imagining ears being sliced off, ever again.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/6 "2012-01-16T00:03:53Z")

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I know quite a few people who claim a distaste for _Singin’ In The Rain_ since they watched **A Clockwork Orange**.

And his “rehabilitation” certainly changed Alex’s perception of Ludwig Van.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/7 "2012-01-16T00:14:18Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> But then, I hope y’all have been spared having The Dance of the Hours become associated with a brand of bouillon cubes…

No, it’s associated with [ostriches, elephants, crocodiles, and hippos.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaMlGheUlXU) Or [Camp Grenada.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0q85NahmQw)

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/8 "2012-01-16T00:26:36Z")

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> [@Peanuthead](#):
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> [The William Tell Overture](http://www.google.com/imgres?q=the+lone+ranger&hl=en&rls=ig&biw=1600&bih=787&gbv=2&tbm=isch&tbnid=Q93uAfx0iNrYcM:&imgrefurl=http://claytonmoore.tripod.com/&docid=S3vXIkJzdxyoNM&imgurl=http://claytonmoore.tripod.com/lr_silv8.jpg&w=250&h=317&ei=OmETT_79IcWCgAfS4YH3Aw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=398&vpy=151&dur=2035&hovh=253&hovw=199&tx=95&ty=104&sig=101475704138887912617&page=1&tbnh=129&tbnw=102&start=0&ndsp=44&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0). And I bet I really don’t even need a link. You _know_ what you’re going to see, don’t you?

I thought it was going to be that scene from A Clockwork Orange.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/9 "2012-01-16T00:27:11Z")

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> [@Tengu](#):
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> Quite a lot of people will never be able to hear Stuck In the Middle With You without imagining ears being sliced off, ever again.

Absolutely!

Strangely enough, my association with _Ride of the Valkyries_ stems from James Dean humming it in _Rebel Without A Cause_ when he was drunk at the police station early in the movie. There might even be a clip at YouTube to verify that, but I won’t go hunting it. You either remember it or you don’t.

Another Dean connection is from _Giant_ when Chill Wills plays _Clair de Lune_.

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**Author:** ![Meltdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Meltdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meltdown)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/10 "2012-01-16T00:33:01Z")

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[Also Sprach Zarathustra](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWnmCu3U09w) ftw.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/11 "2012-01-16T00:35:14Z")

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Personally, I can’t hear the music without automatically singing, in my best Bugs Bunny voice:

_Welcome to my shop!  
Let me cut your mop  
Let me take your crop  
Daiiiiiintily!_

I always loved [The Rabbit Of Seville](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDQLy84ad04).

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/12 "2012-01-16T00:46:10Z")

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I’m afraid the Flowers Duet from Lakme will be known as British Airway’s advertising jingle for a long time.

I’d never heard Suo Gan until Empire of the Sun, and I’m able to enjoy it without thinking of coffins floating down the river.

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/13 "2012-01-16T01:42:40Z")

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i think Mighty Mouse had Wagner.

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**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/14 "2012-01-16T03:46:21Z")

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After they started playing “This is the Cereal That is Shot From Guns” at fireworks shows, I think a lot of kids don’t associate it with cereal any more.

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**Author:** ![heathen\_earthling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/13edae/32.png) [@heathen\_earthling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heathen_earthling)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/15 "2012-01-16T03:56:08Z")

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> [@Fish\_Cheer](#):
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> I recently re-watched _Apocalypse Now!_ for the umpteenth time. When [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHjWDCX1Bdw&t=2m29s) part came up I realized something: I’m fairly sure that an entire generation who had probably never heard of Wagner before will hear the _Ride of the Valkyries_ and immediately think of _Apocalypse Now!_ for the rest of their lives. Can you think of any other examples of this?

There’s kind of an inverse phenomenon too: My knowledge of _Apocalypose Now_ comes entirely from music that samples it.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/16 "2012-01-16T05:05:01Z")

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Whenever I hear Tom Petty’s American Girl I think she better put the lotion on her skin or else she’ll get the hose again.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/17 "2012-01-16T05:11:03Z")

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> [@Alley\_Dweller](#):
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> After they started playing “This is the Cereal That is Shot From Guns” at fireworks shows, I think a lot of kids don’t associate it with cereal any more.

The only cereal that’s shot from guns?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/18 "2012-01-16T05:16:55Z")

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> [@heathen\_earthling](#):
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> There’s kind of an inverse phenomenon too: My knowledge of _Apocalypose Now_ comes entirely from music that samples it.

I predate all of it, but yeah, [The End](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGmAmJFUvzM) still has Martin Sheen in his drawers in it for me, though he was never my type.

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**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/19 "2012-01-16T06:06:04Z")

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> [@johnpost](#):
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> i think Mighty Mouse had Wagner.

Not that I recall. The only piece that comes to mind is the sextet from “Lucia di Lammermoor” by Donizetti, which is used in “Throwing the Bull”. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLFxca1JKI8#t=3m](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLFxca1JKI8#t=3m)

No “Carmen”, though, which is what you’d expect for a bullfight.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/20 "2012-01-16T06:26:04Z")

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Let’s see if I’m the only one here…

When I hear “March of the Toreadors” from _ **Carmen** _, I hear someone singing “Neither a borrower nor a lender be! Do not forget, stay out of debt!”

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