# Music that will never be the same

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 15, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642 "2012-01-15T23:27:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fish\_Cheer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fish_cheer/32/17179_2.png) [@Fish\_Cheer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish_Cheer)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/41 "2012-01-16T23:05:47Z")

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Excellent replies and links, everyone. Thank you!

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/42 "2012-01-16T23:13:51Z")

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> [@AmsterdamReprobate](#):
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> Sorry, but YOU’re incorrect - in a Clockwork Orange Alex refers to Beethoven as Lovely Ludwig Von. With an O.

No, he does not. You are 100% wrong.

[It had been a wonderful evening and what I needed now, to give it the perfect ending, was a little of the Ludwig Van.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066921/quotes?qt=qt0424863)

[That! Using Ludwig van like that! He did no harm to anyone. Beethoven just wrote music!](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066921/quotes?qt=qt0424896)

[I woke up. The pain and sickness all over me like an animal. Then I realized what it was. The music coming up from the floor was our old friend, Ludwig Van, and the dreaded Ninth Symphony.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066921/quotes?qt=qt0424905)

[He clearly says “van” not “von”](http://vimeo.com/22705040). :44 into the clip.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/43 "2012-01-17T00:07:08Z")

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I was attending a concert a while back, and they were playing “Barber of Seville”. I had to excuse myself and step out of the auditorium, for fear of laughing out loud.

Another one is the Unfinished. Can anyone hear it and not think, “This is the symphony that Schubert wrote and never finished”?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/44 "2012-01-17T00:30:59Z")

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> [@BrotherCadfael](#):
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> Another one is the Unfinished. Can anyone hear it and not think, “This is the symphony that Schubert wrote and never finished”?

You can’t blame the guy. It’s Three Themes In Search of an Exit.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/45 "2012-01-17T00:41:28Z")

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**A Clockwork Orange** has a bunch of these for me. Another not mentioned yet is [The Thieving Magpie](http://youtu.be/7Cd4hXcgG4c).

And I think Scorsese is better than Tarantino at using music this way - **Goodfellas** is loaded with them. Speedo, Jump Into The Fire, the end part of Layla, Sunshine Of Your Love, Atlantis (the “Hands across the ocean” song while they’re kicking Billy Batts)…

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**Author:** ![Mustardseed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47c2d/32.png) [@Mustardseed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mustardseed)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/46 "2012-01-17T01:11:22Z")

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Nokia ruined a perfectly nice little Waltz by Francisco Tarrega in choosing 4 bars as their standard ringtone

[the ‘nokia bars’ are at 0:12](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSQzUx3QW2Y)

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/47 "2012-01-17T01:20:00Z")

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“Brand New Key.” Can’t hear it without thinking of a naked Heather Graham mounting Mark Wahlberg in “Boogie Nights.”

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/48 "2012-01-17T01:27:53Z")

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> I’m afraid the Flowers Duet from Lakme will be known as British Airway’s advertising jingle for a long time.
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That’s funny. I’ve always associated it with Catherine Deneuve and Susan Sarandon making out in _The Hunger._

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/49 "2012-01-17T01:31:35Z")

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Last two posts? I’ll be in my bunk.

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**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/50 "2012-01-17T02:16:36Z")

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> [@phungi](#):
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> I can never listen to “Movin in Stereo” by the Cars without thinking of Phoebe Cates’ scene in “Fast Times at Ridgemont High” (what pubescent male even _knew_ you could even remove a bikini from the front?)

I also automatically associate Jackson Browne’s “Somebody’s Baby” with the same movie, during the scenes where Jennifer Jason Leigh gets naked. She was even hotter than Phoebe Cates in that movie, IMO.

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**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/51 "2012-01-17T02:30:45Z")

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> [@Fish\_Cheer](#):
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> I recently re-watched _Apocalypse Now!_ for the umpteenth time. When [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHjWDCX1Bdw&t=2m29s) part came up I realized something: I’m fairly sure that an entire generation who had probably never heard of Wagner before will hear the _Ride of the Valkyries_ and immediately think of _Apocalypse Now!_ for the rest of their lives. Can you think of any other examples of this?

You know what? I actually think of flying toasters. Hrm.

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/52 "2012-01-17T04:06:29Z")

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> [@AmsterdamReprobate](#):
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> And I’m always looking for child molesters when I hear In the hall of the Mountain King by Grieg.

Wow, cool, I bet not many readers understand this one.

Sort of reverse situation, don’t read on if you like Robert Frost’s “Walking Through Woods on a Snowy Evening” : It can be sung to the tune of “Hernando’s Hideaway”… and once you’ve done that, it’s impossible to read that poem, ever again.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/53 "2012-01-17T04:47:57Z")

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First, nobody except my mother likes that poem.

Second, WTTW once had an episode in which Frost and Frank Lloyd Wright competed to be the most pathetic old man. I was a little kid, but wanted to kill both of them.

Third, I got over that (ETA: sorta) when they both died long before I could kill them.

Fourth, and I know that this violates comedy’s Rule of Threes, Wright’s home/studio is across the street from a red, white, and blue, Victorian “painted lady.” If I were to win the lotto I would buy it, sort through its paint chips, and paint it some combination that would make the Baby Jesus cry while not violating a village ordinance.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/54 "2012-01-17T04:55:26Z")

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FTR, had a chance to buy a Wright that was mass built. I put dibs on the porte cochere. Still regret that this was a (rare) time that I was serious.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_A.Robrin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sam_a.robrin/32/14497_2.png) [@Sam\_A.Robrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_A.Robrin)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/55 "2012-01-17T05:09:39Z")

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> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#):
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> Wow, cool, I bet not many readers understand this one.

I certainly don’t–can you explain it?

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**Author:** ![4d3fect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/4d3fect/32/9728_2.png) [@4d3fect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/4d3fect)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/56 "2012-01-17T05:45:46Z")

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> [@StusBlues](#):
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> [Whoooo!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoD7KV0VPco)

This [http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOUsbtUrXHk](http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOUsbtUrXHk)

ought to readjust your expectations on that little bit of Strauss.

Certainly eliminates its pomposity.

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**Author:** ![4d3fect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/4d3fect/32/9728_2.png) [@4d3fect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/4d3fect)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/57 "2012-01-17T05:56:29Z")

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Also, I think Carmina Burana for a host of movies, my earliest recollection of it was its use in Boorman’s Excalibur.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA8MeJFRh04](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA8MeJFRh04)

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**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/58 "2012-01-17T08:22:49Z")

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> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#):
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> Sort of reverse situation, don’t read on if you like Robert Frost’s “Walking Through Woods on a Snowy Evening” : It can be sung to the tune of “Hernando’s Hideaway”… and once you’ve done that, it’s impossible to read that poem, ever again.

It can also be sung to the tune of “O Tannenbaum.”

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**Author:** ![AmsterdamReprobate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/amsterdamreprobate/32/17540_2.png) [@AmsterdamReprobate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AmsterdamReprobate)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/59 "2012-01-17T09:21:12Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> No, he does not. You are 100% wrong.
> 
> [It had been a wonderful evening and what I needed now, to give it the perfect ending, was a little of the Ludwig Van.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066921/quotes?qt=qt0424863)
> 
> [That! Using Ludwig van like that! He did no harm to anyone. Beethoven just wrote music!](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066921/quotes?qt=qt0424896)
> 
> [I woke up. The pain and sickness all over me like an animal. Then I realized what it was. The music coming up from the floor was our old friend, Ludwig Van, and the dreaded Ninth Symphony.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066921/quotes?qt=qt0424905)
> 
> [He clearly says “van” not “von”](http://vimeo.com/22705040). :44 into the clip.

I stand corrected.

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**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/music-that-will-never-be-the-same/609642/60 "2012-01-17T12:46:27Z")

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Anytime I hear the Carpenter’s “We’ve only just begun” for the rest of my life, I’ll think of 1408.

A few songs from American Psycho, but mainly “Hip to be Square”.

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