# Musicians I Hate **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 21, 2000, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015 "2000-09-21T17:11:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2000, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/21 "2000-09-21T22:29:55Z")
Phil, I am at a loss. What to do? 1. Thank you for backing up the talented Tori Amos, who has NO business being mentioned in this thread; 2. Tear you a new one for calling Yes and Rush dull. Help me out here. Which do you prefer? ---
**Author:** ![johnson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@johnson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnson)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2000, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/22 "2000-09-21T23:14:02Z")
Phil Collins. 'Nuff said. ---
**Author:** ![Falcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@Falcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Falcon)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2000, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/23 "2000-09-21T23:42:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pldennison \* > **Re: Dave Matthews–IMHO, one of those groups that fall, like Yes and Rush, under the category of "Extremely Talented Musicians Who Create Abominably Dull Music."** Hrm…guess I won’t be trading CDs with Phil soon… But I’ll forgive ya hon. Even if you do like the GoGos. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2000, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/24 "2000-09-21T23:47:41Z")
Apparently, Phil prefers “Abominably Dull Music” created by “Extremely Untalented Musicians” 😛 ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2000, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/25 "2000-09-22T01:04:24Z")
Ugh! Dave Mathews is evil with his inane wailing. Ugh! But I hate Ani DiFranco. I’m from Santa Cruz, CA, where hateing Ani DiFranco is the one thing that will get you the death penalty. But ugh! her voice is so annoying and I wish she would just sing instead of her inane wailing and “artsy” screeching. She sounds like an out-of-tune ally cat. And her songs arent even deep. Half-assed rhetoric mixed with whineing about lame signifigant others. Shut Up! We want orgional thought, not just a party line. And as for her whole “independent artist” crock, why do her concerts cost thirty bucks? There are plenty of independent artists playing fifteen buck shows and they arnt all dead. And they dont feel comelled to flaunt their state of independence every three seconds (while releaseing an album full of filler every year to milk the fans.) ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2000, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/26 "2000-09-22T01:07:26Z")
I have a feeling that most of these people who are ragging on Tori haven’t heard a single song she’s written since her first CD. Yes, Little Earthquakes was an emotionally-draining and beautiful CD and she drew much of the inspiration for it from the pain of being raped. And, FTR, she wrote exactly _one_ song about being raped. And…um…you know she’s released four albums since then with _entirely_ different sounds. In fact her last two have a little bit of a techno/dance flavor to them. She signs autographs and talks with her fans before _and_ after every concert she plays. By all accounts, she’s one of the friendliest, most approachable artists in the business. She takes requests and does some amazing covers of everyone from Springsteen to The Cure to Nine Inch Nails. She’s even covered Amazing Grace, Home on the Range, and Somewhere Over the Rainbow and actually made them sound _good!_ Oh, and I think a big fat _ **FUCK YOU!!!** _ is in order, aimed squarely between the eyes of **Suo Na** for an offensive, ignorant, ill-informed, piece-of-festering-shit post. It’s assholes like you that are part of the reason that many women don’t come forward after being raped. Count me among the men who don’t care about her “cunt-grinding on the corner of the piano bench” (what a ladylike thing to say, BTW), and love her because she’s simply the most talented singer/songwriter on the planet. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2000, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/27 "2000-09-22T01:12:46Z")
Amen, says I. Her cover of “Smells like Teen Spirit” is bone-chilling too, neutron. I take it you know that already, of course. If not, drop me a line. ---
**Author:** ![MikeG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikeg/32/4329_2.png) [@MikeG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeG)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2000, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/28 "2000-09-22T01:25:29Z")
And “from the choirgirl hotel” almost got me arrested! I had to drive from Chicago to Indianapolis on a Fri. evening. I had the cd playing for the first time and Raspberry swirl came on. I looked down a minute later and I was doing 105mph :eek: Hey Coldfire, if you’re in Amsterdam, I hope you don’t have to work today! 0220 ouch ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2000, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/29 "2000-09-22T01:28:00Z")
03:28, actually. And yes, I do have to work. But I have very weird sleeping patterns - don’t worry about me 😉 ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2000, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/30 "2000-09-22T01:50:45Z")
Great cover, CF. From the Crucify EP, if I’m not mistaken. Have you heard any of her live, bootlegged covers? I saw a list somewhere a while back of all the songs she’s covered in concert. Over 100, IIRC. And in case you haven’t heard, Tori is a mommy now. She gave birth to a healthy baby girl last Monday. If she grows up to have 1/10th the talent of her mom, I’ll buy all her CDs. ---
**Author:** ![MikeG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikeg/32/4329_2.png) [@MikeG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeG)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2000, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/31 "2000-09-22T02:08:43Z")
Yeah I’m a Tori fan. It grew from my love of Kate Bush - I still think Tori takes a lot of her style from her but that’s a good thing! If you haven’t heard KB and are a Tori fan do so at once! For some reason I have heard derisive comments from KB fans re. TA but I just don’t get it. They are talented musicians working from their own experiences but with a common thread of “style” IMHO ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2000, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/32 "2000-09-22T02:40:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MikeG \* > \*\*Yeah I’m a Tori fan. It grew from my love of Kate Bush - I still think Tori takes a lot of her style from her but that’s a good thing! If you haven’t heard KB and are a Tori fan do so at once! For some reason I have heard derisive comments from KB fans re. TA but I just don’t get it. They are talented musicians working from their own experiences but with a common thread of “style” IMHO \*\* I’m with you. I picked up on KB after watching USA’s old Night Flight show featuring her “Live at the Hammersmith Odeon” concert. Went out and bought “Hounds of Love” and eventually everything else. Pity she hasn’t done anything since “The Red Shoes”. Saw TA’s “SOTY” video on VH1 and was hooked. I now have 31 cd’s and 3 videos as well as several tapes full of TV appearances. On the OP, though: Alanis can bite me. I’ve heard a lot of her teeny bopper crap from the late 80’s. She secured the rights to all this drivel in order to prevent it’s re-release. Too bad she can’t control E-Bay!! She can’t be the “angry young woman” forever, though. The fire has to go out eventually. If she doesn’t change, she’ll disappear. Oh, and when she does, she can Fionna “heroin chic” Apple with her. Hey, Fionna, EAT SOMETHING! ---
**Author:** ![NicePete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ee7513/32.png) [@NicePete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NicePete)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2000, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/33 "2000-09-22T03:47:58Z")
Remember before he acquired the 900 pound block of pretense and he was plain ol’ **Johnny Cougar**? Yeah, unh huh. Whatever. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2000, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/34 "2000-09-22T03:55:26Z")
> [@](#): > > Madonna. This is one of the most prolific targets for attack in music I’ve seen. She has expanded her range and talent and has become a good singer and a decent actress. What she really does well is business. She is an incredibly brilliant businesswoman. She has the only artist owned label that is successful. She has incredible savvy, which is why her career is almost 20 years of success. Bill Gates is a hell of a businessman. I wouldn’t watch his music videos. I would say, though, that Madonna is the second-best actress in the world. Everyone else is tied for first. ---
**Author:** ![daval12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@daval12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/daval12)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2000, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/35 "2000-09-22T03:56:43Z")
you pack of lifeless sexless dweebs, if it weren’t for you i’d feel inferior to everybody-- anybody up for a fight!!! ---
**Author:** ![daval12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@daval12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/daval12)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2000, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/36 "2000-09-22T04:03:35Z")
by the way, i did bjork at the living room, (while she was still with the suger cubes)those handles on her head come in quite handy ---
**Author:** ![Silo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Silo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silo)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2000, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/37 "2000-09-22T04:59:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by daval12 \ ***you pack of lifeless sexless dweebs, if it weren’t for you i’d feel inferior to everybody-- anybody up for a fight!!!** I’m up for a fight! > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by daval12 \* > \*\*by the way, i did bjork at the living room, (while she was still with the suger cubes)those handles on her head come in quite handy \*\* Wow, she must have been drunk and desperate. From your posting you seem about as attractive as a shit in a swimming pool. ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2000, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/38 "2000-09-22T06:43:30Z")
> [@](#): > > Alanis can bite me. I’ve heard a lot of her teeny bopper crap from the late 80’s. Now, now. I think y’all aren’t giving Alanis enough credit. I’m not crazy about all of her music, but hey, she’s still young and she’s proven herself to be a brilliant songwriter. And everybody (except Rush) sucked in the '80s. I have four words for you : “Y Kant Tori Read.” Bleh. I rest my case. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lexicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ac8455/32.png) [@Lexicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lexicon)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2000, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/39 "2000-09-22T07:00:19Z")
Well, several musicians suck. I don’t think that I hate any of them, but there are many that make my skin crawl with their “music” I hate to disrespect the dead, but **John Denver** ’s caterwauling mad me fly into a rage… _My songs make you nauseousssssssss, Like a date with your moth-eeeeerrrrrrrr!_ And **Barry Manilow** … Now that shit’ll make you put a gun in your mouth. And what’s the deal with **Tammy Wynette**? Doesn’t she know that normal people sing with their mouths instead of forcing notes out their sinuses? There are so many “musicians” that fuckin’ suck, I can’t name ‘em all in one breath. And I have huge fuckin’ lungs. **Boy George** **Milli Vanilli** **Vanilla Ice** The new **George Michael** **Snoop Dogg** **Frank Sinatra** Jr. **Tiny Tim** **Elton John** **Captain and Taniel** sp? **Olivia N. John** **Flock of Seagulls** **Biz Markie** The new **Bon Jovi** **Duran Duran** **Men With Hats** ---
**Author:** ![Silo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Silo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silo)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2000, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/40 "2000-09-22T09:17:18Z")
**Welcome to the “Holy Grail” of suck:** Journey (OMG!!! they SUCK so fucking bad) B-52s (The most airheaded monkey-fuck-shit I’ve ever graced my eyes and ears apon) REO Speedwagon (It’s challenging to be as wussy a pussy and pathetic as this) Cyndi Lauper (Baaaah!) STYX (just major crap, SUCKS to the n!th degree!) Winger (Hey look at my white teeth, I suck so bad) Nitro (Some of the WORST videos ever and verrry annoying) Skid Row/ Ratt/ Bad English = Indefinate SUCKIENESS Menudo (Nosotros suckos muchos!) Milli Vanilli :rolleyes: Motley Crue (Aww …they fucking suck too) Dokken (Even though I like George Lynch’s guitar work they basically sucked) Rush (Sorry Coldfire, but the majority of their songs suck pretty bad IMO. Don’t think I put Rush last on this list because they don’t suck as much as the others mentioned. They probably do. But anyways I’ll drop it and respect your opinion on them ;)) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015.md?page=3)