# Musicians I Hate **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 21, 2000, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015 "2000-09-21T17:11:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![BeerDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@BeerDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeerDog)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2000, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/61 "2000-09-22T19:19:01Z")
> [@](#): > > How did you come to be aware of her sweet-scented nature? I met her (Celine Dion) awhile back at Sam the Record Man in Toronto. She was doing some kind of record signing thing (this was before she came into power as the world dominating sappy-music French-Canadian overlord). I was there for the first time, just looking around, and I got in the wrong line. Next thing I knew, this smiling petite little French woman was shaking my hand. I did actually realize who she was (thanks in large part to the posters behind her), but, not being a fan of her music, all I could think to say was; " You smell like a million damn dollars." She did too . . . ---
**Author:** ![HalberMensch242](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ecb155/32.png) [@HalberMensch242](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HalberMensch242)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2000, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/62 "2000-09-22T19:26:54Z")
To Turpentine: I know how you feel…i, for a period of 2 years, hated anything electronic because all my sister played was on Prodigy and one Chemical Brothers cd…sence i associated those two with electronica…i therefore hated all electronica. But low and behold…i’m an electronic music conoseur now…how ironic. ps…it’s really too bad that you were exposed to VnV in such a bad light ---
**Author:** ![Tymp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Tymp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tymp)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2000, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/63 "2000-09-22T20:37:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by even sven \* > But I hate Ani DiFranco. I’m from Santa Cruz, CA, where **hateing** Ani DiFranco is the one thing that will get you the death penalty. Congratulations on living in Santa Cruz. What do you want, a fuckin’ biscuit? How does your city have anything to do with DiFranco? > [@](#): > > But ugh! \*\*[H]\*\*er voice is so annoying and I wish she would just sing instead of her inane wailing and “artsy” screeching. She sounds like an out-of-tune ally cat. Hm. That’s funny. I think of her as having a most impressive range and ability. To whom are you comparing her? Is it possible that you are incapable of understanding singing more complicated and evolved than that of Brittany Spears or Fiona Apple? > [@](#): > > And her songs **arent** even deep. Half-assed rhetoric mixed with **whineing** about lame **signifigant** others. Shut Up! We want **orgional** thought, not just a party line. ? ? ? Stop. Oh, god, please stop. You’re making me giggle uncontrollably over here. This is a joke, right? > [@](#): > > And as for her whole “independent artist” crock, why do her concerts cost thirty bucks? There are plenty of independent artists playing fifteen buck shows and they **arnt** all dead. And they **dont** feel **comelled** to flaunt their state of independence every three seconds (while **releaseing** an album full of filler every year to milk the fans.) Do you understand what it means to have an independent label? You seem to be confusing that with piss poor garage bands that just aren’t good enough to charge a living wage for their product. Have you ever wondered how she can be so prolific? Have you ever wondered how she could have accomplished all that she has at her young age and still have lived an interesting life about which to write songs? I wonder these things. [sub]All emphasis in the above quotes is mine[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![BillyBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/34f0e0/32.png) [@BillyBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BillyBoy)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2000, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/64 "2000-09-22T20:55:30Z")
> [@](#): > > **I dunno man, Dave Matthews just has this attitude. Plus the fact that he puts out all these live albums with no or little new material and expects fans to shell out 17.99 is pretty pompous in my book.** I can explain about all the live albums. It all started with Phish. Both groups have a fan base that loves, loves, loves live material. These are bands that don’t play the same song the same way twice, and the variations are what people live for. Phish fans are notorious for trading bootleg performance tapes. The record companies saw this, and little light-bulbs appeared over their money-grubbing heads. Why not release an official live album? They’ll love it! And they did. So then the record execs say, hey, if one sells, why not 2? or 3? And so it begins… From there, it was a simple trick to notice that a significant portion of the Phish fans are also Dave Matthews fans. Aha. So they made a live Dave Matthews album, and it also sold extremely well. My instinct is that neither Phish or Dave Matthews had a lot of say in these matters, and I have heard tell that the Phish ones were done to help them more painlessly finish the 5-record deal that was forcing them to crank out albums much faster than they cared to. I can’t substantiate that part though, and could be dead wrong. I don’t know about the album pricing, but I don’t think that Dave and crew have much say in that, either. ---
**Author:** ![Necros](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/necros/32/11086_2.png) [@Necros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Necros)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2000, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/65 "2000-09-22T21:15:27Z")
**Led Zeppelin**. No, wait. Let me explain. Led Zeppelin kicks ass. They kick ass hard. They are an awesome band. Except for Robert Plant. Robert Plant’s voice makes me want to pour acid into my earhole. I can’t stand his screechy ass. But the rest of the band rocks. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2000, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/66 "2000-09-23T01:42:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Turpentine \* > \*\*I need to add another to the list of hated musicians- > > PINK FLOYD. Ick, ick, ick.\*\* Remind me to NEVER discuss music with you again. At least Phil likes Tori 😉 ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2000, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/67 "2000-09-23T04:11:41Z")
I’m surprised nobody’s mentioned **REM** yet. They used to be one of the best bands in the world - “Automatic For The People” is far and away one of the finest albums of the last twenty years. Their last album was probably the worst album I have ever paid money for, and I bought Duran Duran’s “Seven and the Ragged Tiger” back in the early 80’s. Every song sounded identical, and it was one terrible song. It sounded as if they’d just sort of played random tunes, cut them up into four-minute blocks, and released it. REM’s last album was so bad that after I’d listened to it I wanted to cut my own head off. REM is, more than anything else, _tired._ They just don’t have anything left, and it shows. ---
**Author:** ![alibey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@alibey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alibey)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2000, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/68 "2000-09-23T05:11:20Z")
Originally posted by Turpentine I need to add another to the list of hated musicians- PINK FLOYD. Ick, ick, ick. guess that you haven’t heard “Dark Side of the Moon”, eh? Timeless album, borrow a copy and give it a listen. ---
**Author:** ![Silo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Silo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silo)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2000, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/69 "2000-09-23T05:21:49Z")
> [@](#): > > I need to add another to the list of hated musicians- > > PINK FLOYD. Ick, ick, ick. > \*\* Whaaa??? ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2000, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/70 "2000-09-23T06:20:59Z")
> [@](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > But I hate Ani DiFranco. I’m from Santa Cruz, CA, where hateing Ani DiFranco is the one thing that will get you the death penalty. > > Congratulations on living in Santa Cruz. What do you want, a fuckin’ biscuit? How does your city have anything to do with DiFranco? Ani DiFranco is practically the poet laureate of Santa Cruz. It’s probably illegal to say something mean about her there. When she played there a couple years ago, it was almost a city holiday. > [@](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > But ugh! [H]er voice is so annoying and I wish she would just sing instead of her inane wailing and “artsy” screeching. She sounds like an out-of-tune ally cat. > > Hm, that’s funny, I think of her having a most impressive range and ability. To whom are you comparing her? Is it possible that you are incapable of understanding singing more complicated and evolved than that of Brittany Spears or Fiona Apple? Are you Ani DiFranco’s older brother or something? Why are you upset by even sven’s opinion? FWIW, I agree with her, Ani DiFranco should try singing instead of yelping. I like some of her songs, and admire her independence, but it’s ridiculous that you think that a dislike of her voice equals inability to appreciate music. I don’t hate her, but your over-the-top defensiveness is kind of weird. You aren’t from Santa Cruz, are you? I really, really, really don’t like **Eminem**. Also, **Cher**. Anyone see the episode of South Park where the police tried to end a party by playing Cher at them? Ohmylord, their imitation of her was _hysterical._ ---
**Author:** ![boli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e99b99/32.png) [@boli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boli)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2000, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/71 "2000-09-23T06:49:21Z")
GO Turpentine! I hate Pink Floyd too. All their music sounds the same. Yes, I’ve heard Dark Side of the Moon, more times than I care to remember. I’ve never cared much for Led Zeppelin either, so let the flames rain on my ass. I don’t care. They suck. ---
**Author:** ![TroubleAgain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@TroubleAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroubleAgain)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2000, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/72 "2000-09-23T07:11:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Silo \* > \*\* > > Journey (OMG!!! they SUCK so fucking bad) > > Cyndi Lauper (Baaaah!) > \*\* Ouch…I’m very much a product of the 80’s, so those two are part of a lot of warm, fuzzy memories for me…and I still listen to Journey. Love 'em. Wore out two Greatest Hits cassettes before I got the CD. Oh, well, everyone’s entitled to like or dislike whatever they want to. I despise a lot of bands that are considered to be “great.” ---
**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2000, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/73 "2000-09-23T12:06:27Z")
**Coldfire** , as far as Floyd goes, I like them but I have my limits. Not only don’t I think _Dark Side_ is the best rock album ever, I don’t even think it’s the best Floyd album. I will listen to _Piper at the Gates of Dawn_, _Meddle_, _The Wall_ and _Wish You Were Here_ first. 🙂 (_The Wall_ falls apart in a couple of spots, but I think it’s a great achievement as an album.) I don’t really own any of Tori’s stuff, but I do like several of her songs. _God_ and _Caught a Light Sneeze_ are damned good songwriting and arrangement. 'Course, I still need to kick **RickJay’s** butt over the OP. 😃 I adore Sarah. I’ve met her and interviewed her for radio, and she is one of the nicest, sweetest, most sincere people I’ve ever met. And, honestly, the fact that she might not write her material doesn’t affect the songs any more than the fact that the Monkees were prepackaged makes _Last Train to Clarksville_ a bad song. I agree with you on **REM** , though. I haven’t bought anything since _Automatic_ either (although that album is better than I remember it being). It gets to the point where their new stuff is so bad it almost makes me dislike their old stuff! ---
**Author:** ![HalberMensch242](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ecb155/32.png) [@HalberMensch242](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HalberMensch242)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2000, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/74 "2000-09-23T18:38:15Z")
Ok…here is a bands that i absolutely hate Creed-…do i really need a reason to hate em Joy Electric- Christian Synth-pop…egad! limp bizkit- see Creed SPK- it’s not that i hate…they just scare the living shit out of me The boy bands…all of em- no brainer there What’s up with people hating Floyd? ---
**Author:** ![Silo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Silo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silo)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2000, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/75 "2000-09-23T19:01:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coldfire \* > **Yes can be learned.** Does that make you a yes man? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2000, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/76 "2000-09-23T19:20:10Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by neutron star \* \*\* > [@](#): > > I have four words for you : “Y Kant Tori Read.” Bleh. I rest my case. 🙂 \*\* Well, at least she’ll \* admit \* to doing that. Alanis is trying to rewrite her own history. I’m sure she doesn’t appreciate VH1’s “Before They Were Stars” showing her teeny-bop around singing about boys. ---
**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2000, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/77 "2000-09-23T21:54:16Z")
**RE: Dave Matthews:** A pretty good Indicator of Suck is the descriptor “eclectic,” or any permutation therof. I once had some hesher waiter at a Perkins describe his band as a mix between “Pink Floyd, Primus, and Pearl Jam.” Duuuuuude. I bet you rock. **ADDENDUM:** Any ostensibly 4 or 5 peice rock group that needs a 20 peice orchestral section for a single appearance on Saturday Night Live. Alternately, any whitebread suburban rock band that suddenly acquires a backup vocal section consisting of three African-American women who would probably be stopped and frisked if caught in the other band members’ parents’ neighborhoods. **ADDENDUM #2:** That Ian motherfucker from Jethro Tull. The Guess Who (see: Lester Bang’s rant about hippie fuckin Canadians). The Who post Keith Moon. The Beatles post clean-shavedness. **ADDENDUM #3:** \*Ridin that train High on cocaine The music’s really boring The fans are real lame Trouble behind Trouble ahead I’m so goddam grateful That Jerry is dead.\* **ADDENDUM #4:** I could do this for hours, so I’ll leave you with: Every band from Seattle, ever, except for the Catheters. ---
**Author:** ![chief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df788c/32.png) [@chief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chief)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2000, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/78 "2000-09-24T09:57:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by boli \* > \*\*GO Turpentine! I hate Pink Floyd too. All their music sounds the same. Yes, I’ve heard Dark Side of the Moon, more times than I care to remember. > > I’ve never cared much for Led Zeppelin either, so let the flames rain on my ass. I don’t care. They suck. \*\* try reading some floyd lyrics… they are actually really good. and zeppelin , well they are all great musicians and wrote some great songs, not to mention inspired a ton of other bands… ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2000, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/79 "2000-09-24T12:43:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pldennison \* > **Coldfire** , as far as Floyd goes, I like them but I have my limits. Not only don’t I think _Dark Side_ is the best rock album ever, I don’t even think it’s the best Floyd album. I will listen to _Piper at the Gates of Dawn_, _Meddle_, _The Wall_ and _Wish You Were Here_ first. 🙂 (_The Wall_ falls apart in a couple of spots, but I think it’s a great achievement as an album.) I agree. The best Rock Album Ever is **Rush** ’s _Moving Pictures_ 😃 And I, too, prefer several PF albums over DSOTM. For some reason that does not only rely on sheer quality, _Wish You Were Here_ is my favourite. Although _The Wall_ rocks too. It’s great being a psycho, and cover it all up by saying “you just like Floyd, that’s all”. ---
**Author:** ![sveglio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@sveglio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sveglio)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2000, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015/80 "2000-09-24T20:10:53Z")
This is a nice thread. While I won’t be as descriptive as the original poster, I will give my two cents as to why I abhor the artists(losers) below. NIN - Boring. Depressive. Monotonous. It’s all noise to me. And what the hell is he saying? I can’t hear him over the music. Well, if you call that music. I mean, it’s like he turned his television to channel 01 and recorded the fuzz. Korn - Everything I said about NIN applies with Korn as well. I’m willing to donate a chord book to their guitarists. Limp Bizkit - With all the money they make, you would figure that the lead singer could afford a new hat. And did someone castrate this guy? Why does he have to sing in that annoying high-pitched voice? He reminds me of all the wiggers I went to High School with. Cher - Let’s face it, when Cher sings it sounds like an animal is being tortured. She basically has no vocal range whatsoever. Madonna - Does anyone really give a shit how many times she has “reinvented” her look? Whitney Houston - I think it’s sad that Whitney Houston is recognized for a song (I Will Always Love You) that was originally written by Dolly Parton. Whitney needs to thank Dolly, because Dolly is paying her bills. Carlos Santana - Next to Kurt Cobain, Carlos is probably the most overrated guitar player, ever. It would of been interesting to see how well his “Supernatural” album panned out if he didn’t have that HUGE crutch of corresponding musicians on his album. Puff Daddy “Ma$e” ← Don’t you just love the “$”? What a hoser. Jay Z 'N Sync Backstreet Boys Britney Spears Snoop Dog Kriss Kross Eminem Master P Dr. Dre And last and certainly least, Eric Clapton and B.B. King. Now, I like these guys, but their latest effort is so sad and pathetic. I wish someone would admit these two into the worn-out musicians retirement home. Cher and Madonna need to be admitted there also. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-i-hate/34015.md?page=5)