# Musicians who are clueless louts, but have a direct channel to Og

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-who-are-clueless-louts-but-have-a-direct-channel-to-og/332925>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 27, 2005, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-who-are-clueless-louts-but-have-a-direct-channel-to-og/332925 "2005-11-27T15:53:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Millit\_the\_Frail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@Millit\_the\_Frail](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Millit_the_Frail)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2005, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-who-are-clueless-louts-but-have-a-direct-channel-to-og/332925/21 "2005-11-28T15:10:11Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> Cobain seemed to have just strung words together simply to enable his howl of rage to come out. “An Albino, a mulatto, a mosquito - palomino” - sure the song captures the anger of his generation, but he couldn’t come close to articulating what it worked.

Nitpick–not “palomino,” “my libido!” 😉

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2005, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-who-are-clueless-louts-but-have-a-direct-channel-to-og/332925/22 "2005-11-28T15:26:34Z")

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> [@Millit the Frail](#):
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> Nitpick–not “palomino,” “my libido!” 😉

Thanks for the correction - although it seems to reinforce the fact that the words are just words - they have no real meaning…

As for **Miles Davis** - I have heard that he was super super smart - given all of the exploration he did and the musical innovation he championed, it would support that. I have also heard he was impenetrable - no one around him knew what was going on in his head.

But smart and obtuse is different from being a musical genius but clueless otherwise, so I guess he wouldn’t fit this category I am thinking of…

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**Author:** ![Hodge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Hodge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hodge)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2005, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-who-are-clueless-louts-but-have-a-direct-channel-to-og/332925/23 "2005-11-28T15:47:50Z")

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> [@LonesomePolecat](#):
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> I have a tremendous admiration for Miles Davis’ work, but I know nothing about his personal life. Why would someone consider it appropriate to include him on this thread?

I’d definitely categorize an arrogant, junkie, wife-beater as a clueless lout. He’s also a musical genius who’s recordings I’ve spent entirely too much money on. He was a pretty talented painter, too.

You could say I’m a little conflicted in my feelings about him.

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**Author:** ![kelly5078](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6f9a4e/32.png) [@kelly5078](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kelly5078)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2005, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-who-are-clueless-louts-but-have-a-direct-channel-to-og/332925/24 "2005-11-28T17:38:50Z")

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[**Al Jolson**](http://www.musicals101.com/jolsonbio.htm) comes to mind. I’m not referring to the blackface stuff, which didn’t have the freight in his day that it does now. The guy was a jerk in a lot of ways, especially to performers sharing the stage with him (he’d have ones who were too well received fired) and to his wives.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2005, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-who-are-clueless-louts-but-have-a-direct-channel-to-og/332925/25 "2005-11-28T18:26:09Z")

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> [@AugestWest](#):
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> I’ve never been much of a Mellencamp fan, perhaps because I remember when he called himself Johnny Cougar which made it difficult for me to take him seriously.
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> However, he calls in to the Bob and Tom show occasionally. Based on those interviews, he seems quite well spoken, quick witted and down to earth.

In the interviews I’ve seen, he comes off as sharp and articulate, if a little abrasive. Abrasive doesn’t bother me, but I could see him putting people off.

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**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2005, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/musicians-who-are-clueless-louts-but-have-a-direct-channel-to-og/332925/26 "2005-11-28T18:32:10Z")

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> [@Askance](#):
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> If we’re including fictional characters, then the lead singer character (“Jimmy Rabbitte”) in the movie [The Commitments](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101605/) definitely qualifies.

“Jimmy Rabbitte” was the band’s manager, “Deco Cuffe” was the singer.

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