# Muslim Cleric says Unveiled Women=Tools of satan! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 27, 2006, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-cleric-says-unveiled-women-tools-of-satan/378121 "2006-10-27T14:37:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-cleric-says-unveiled-women-tools-of-satan/378121/21 "2006-10-27T19:12:29Z")
Tools of Satan? Does that make em…Socket Wenches? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-cleric-says-unveiled-women-tools-of-satan/378121/22 "2006-10-27T19:22:56Z")
It strikes me that highly sexually repressed people (like fundamentalist muslims0 ought to be a witch’s brew of neuroses, psychopathological behavior, etc. Anybody know how prevalent rape is in muslim countries-or do reliable statistics simply NOT exist? ---
**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-cleric-says-unveiled-women-tools-of-satan/378121/23 "2006-10-27T19:41:04Z")
[QUOTE=ralph124c] It strikes me that highly sexually repressed people (like fundamentalist muslims0 ought to be a witch’s brew of neuroses, psychopathological behavior, etc. Anybody know how prevalent rape is in muslim countries-or do reliable statistics simply NOT exist? [/QUOTE] I don’t think there are very reliable statistics - rape is considered to be the fault of the woman attacked, so it is her best interest not to report it. I have read stories of women being disowned and even killed for “dishonoring” their family be being raped. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-cleric-says-unveiled-women-tools-of-satan/378121/24 "2006-10-27T19:41:47Z")
[QUOTE=ralph124c] It strikes me that highly sexually repressed people (like fundamentalist muslims0 ought to be a witch’s brew of neuroses, psychopathological behavior, etc. Anybody know how prevalent rape is in muslim countries-or do reliable statistics simply NOT exist? [/QUOTE] What’s rape? I know that, for a time and in some Islamic countries at least, it wasn’t rape(_zina-bil-jabr_) unless penetration happened in physical view of at least four adult male Muslim men who would testify that it was rape. Needless to say, there’s very little rape under that definition. [Here](http://www.karamah.org/articles_quraishi.htm) is an article written by a female Muslin lawyer about the rape laws in her native Pakistan. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-cleric-says-unveiled-women-tools-of-satan/378121/25 "2006-10-27T19:43:44Z")
[QUOTE=WhyNot] [Here](http://www.karamah.org/articles_quraishi.htm) is an article written by a female Muslin lawyer about the rape laws in her native Pakistan. [/QUOTE] Um…she’s _Muslim_, of course. Not heavy cloth suitible for aprons and linings. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-cleric-says-unveiled-women-tools-of-satan/378121/26 "2006-10-27T20:30:54Z")
[QUOTE=WhyNot] Anyhow, it just seems debasing to MEN, as well as women, to insinuate that men are so helplessly at the mercy of a finely shaped ankle. It’s just not in line with what I know of men. Even the men who are dogs. 😉 [/QUOTE] Show me your bare ankles so we can decide whether his statements are urban legend or fact-of-life. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-cleric-says-unveiled-women-tools-of-satan/378121/27 "2006-10-27T20:36:21Z")
[QUOTE=Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor] Tools of Satan? Does that make em…Socket Wenches? 😃 [/QUOTE] Clap. Clap. Clap. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4da419/32.png) [@Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gala_Matrix_Fire)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-cleric-says-unveiled-women-tools-of-satan/378121/28 "2006-10-27T21:34:00Z")
[QUOTE=WhyNot] What’s rape? I know that, for a time and in some Islamic countries at least, it wasn’t rape(_zina-bil-jabr_) unless penetration happened in physical view of at least four adult male Muslim men who would testify that it was rape. Needless to say, there’s very little rape under that definition. [/QUOTE] Interesting, huh? When I was a girl growing up in America, there was no such thing as a man raping his wife. It wasn’t until I was in junior high that there was talk that maybe a man forcing his wife to have sex when she didn’t feel like it might be turned into a crime. ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-cleric-says-unveiled-women-tools-of-satan/378121/29 "2006-10-27T22:27:40Z")
Isn’t this guy the real tool here. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-cleric-says-unveiled-women-tools-of-satan/378121/30 "2006-10-27T22:47:08Z")
[QUOTE=Zyada] Here I thought nutcases like this were reserved for fundie Christian churches. [/QUOTE] Good Lord, you haven’t been paying much attention to Muslim preaching since 1979 then… Believe me, a lot of them make Fred Phelps look like a Christian. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-cleric-says-unveiled-women-tools-of-satan/378121.md?page=1)