# Muslim-hating man rams Missouri teen with SUV, severing his legs and killing him **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 5, 2014, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-hating-man-rams-missouri-teen-with-suv-severing-his-legs-and-killing-him/706446 "2014-12-05T20:18:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-hating-man-rams-missouri-teen-with-suv-severing-his-legs-and-killing-him/706446/21 "2014-12-05T22:56:29Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > the only group that seems to have such hatred for Muslims are Christians. Worldwide, I don’t believe this is true. In the U.S., “such hatred for Muslims”—the kind that would lead someone to kill a teenager—is, thankfully rare. Of Americans who express hatred of Muslims, I do believe most profess to be Christians, just because it’s by far the most common religion in the U.S. In Somalia, I don’t know what the situation is, except that most Somalis _are_ Muslims. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-hating-man-rams-missouri-teen-with-suv-severing-his-legs-and-killing-him/706446/22 "2014-12-05T23:13:03Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > In Somalia, I don’t know what the situation is, except that most Somalis _are_ Muslims. There’s a very tiny Christian population in Somalia, which reportedly [faces persecution and violence](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Somalia). ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-hating-man-rams-missouri-teen-with-suv-severing-his-legs-and-killing-him/706446/23 "2014-12-05T23:17:05Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I could swear I read the _suspect_ was the son of the head of the center. > > :smack: Your not the only one. I read it that way as well at first. ---
**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-hating-man-rams-missouri-teen-with-suv-severing-his-legs-and-killing-him/706446/24 "2014-12-05T23:20:48Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I didn’t say he was Christian. I said I have no doubt he is, because the only group that seems to have such hatred for Muslims are Christians. From what I hear, some Jews do not think very highly of Muslims. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-hating-man-rams-missouri-teen-with-suv-severing-his-legs-and-killing-him/706446/25 "2014-12-05T23:25:26Z")
> [@njtt](#): > > From what I hear, some Jews do not think very highly of Muslims. There are one or two Hindu’s in India aren’t too keen either. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-hating-man-rams-missouri-teen-with-suv-severing-his-legs-and-killing-him/706446/26 "2014-12-05T23:25:54Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I didn’t say he was Christian. I said I have no doubt he is, because the only group that seems to have such hatred for Muslims are Christians. Not really. [Buddhist violence against Muslims in Myanmar/Burma](http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/03/world/asia/myanmar-violence-buddhists-muslims.html). > [@](#): > > But according to accounts from the police officer, Lt. Col Kyaw Tint, and a villager who witnessed some of the fighting, the violence followed a disturbingly familiar pattern: sword-wielding Buddhist mobs rampaging through Muslim neighborhoods. [Violence against Muslims in India by Hindus](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_Muslims_in_India) > [@](#): > > There have been periodic instances of violence against Muslims in India (referred to as communal riots in India) since its partition from Pakistan in 1947, frequently in the form of mob attacks on Muslims by Hindus that form a pattern of sporadic sectarian violence between the Hindu and Muslim communities. Over 10,000 people have been killed in Hindu-Muslim communal violence since 1950 in 6,933 instances of communal violence between 1954 and 1982. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-hating-man-rams-missouri-teen-with-suv-severing-his-legs-and-killing-him/706446/27 "2014-12-05T23:26:10Z")
Nor some Hindus, nor some of the other sorts of Muslims. The headline seems a fair account of this particular man’s history of expressing Muslim-hate. And the victim was a Missouri teen. The OP guess that the murderer would prove to be a self-described Christian remains a reasonable one, all things considered, though as yet unconfirmed. ---
**Author:** ![nani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58956e/32.png) [@nani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nani)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-hating-man-rams-missouri-teen-with-suv-severing-his-legs-and-killing-him/706446/28 "2014-12-05T23:29:48Z")
> [@ctnguy](#): > > It says the son of the head of the Center was the _victim_, not the killer. Thank you for the correction. I would be somewhat surprised still but less so now. > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I didn’t say he was Christian. I said I have no doubt he is, because the only group that seems to have such hatred for Muslims are Christians. America in general isn’t very warm toward Muslims. Some polling data on [American attitudes toward Muslims](http://www.pewforum.org/2014/07/16/how-americans-feel-about-religious-groups/) shows no major religious group with a positive attitude toward Muslims. In order from least positive attitude to most, white Evangelicals, Jews, and white mainline Protestants are at the bottom. Catholics rate Muslims somewhat higher but still negatively overall, and Black Protestants, “nothing in particulars” and atheists are tied with each other above Catholics but see Muslims more negatively than positively. Agnostics rate Muslims the highest but still have slightly negative attitudes. No data is give for the feelings towards Muslims of minor groups like Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs, Traditional African Religions’ practitioners. Without more evidence of the religious identity of the killer, I can’t really be sure where he would be. Somali non-Muslims in the US, in my anecdotal experience, tend to be atheists or non-religious (like Ayaan Hirsi Ali). But he could have been Christian, why not. ---
**Author:** ![Flywheel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Flywheel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flywheel)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-hating-man-rams-missouri-teen-with-suv-severing-his-legs-and-killing-him/706446/29 "2014-12-05T23:31:14Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > Nor some Hindus, nor some of the other sorts of Muslims. “Damn Muslims! They ruined Islam!” ---
**Author:** ![Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ac8455/32.png) [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Your_Great_Darsh_Face)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-hating-man-rams-missouri-teen-with-suv-severing-his-legs-and-killing-him/706446/30 "2014-12-05T23:34:16Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I didn’t say he was Christian. I said I have no doubt he is, because the only group that seems to have such hatred for Muslims are Christians. “The facts simply _must_ conform to my prejudice”, huh? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-hating-man-rams-missouri-teen-with-suv-severing-his-legs-and-killing-him/706446/31 "2014-12-06T00:30:40Z")
> [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](#): > > “The facts simply _must_ conform to my prejudice”, huh? :rolleyes: But if you had to choose a misogynistic fairy tale, whose would you choose? Literally billions of ill-educated fucks. What’s the local flavo(u)r? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-hating-man-rams-missouri-teen-with-suv-severing-his-legs-and-killing-him/706446/32 "2014-12-06T01:11:04Z")
> [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](#): > > “The facts simply _must_ conform to my prejudice”, huh? :rolleyes: [http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article4299890.html](http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article4299890.html) > [@](#): > > Aden was described by sources as a Somali Christian. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-hating-man-rams-missouri-teen-with-suv-severing-his-legs-and-killing-him/706446/33 "2014-12-06T02:39:18Z")
> [@Flywheel](#): > > “Damn Muslims! They ruined Islam!” Yep. I understand some Christians feel similarly about other sorts of Christians, as well. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-hating-man-rams-missouri-teen-with-suv-severing-his-legs-and-killing-him/706446/34 "2014-12-06T14:09:29Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > Yep. I understand some Christians feel similarly about other sorts of Christians, as well. _The Protestants hate the Catholics And the Catholics hate the Protestants And the Hindus hate the Muslims … and everybody hates the Jews!_ ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-hating-man-rams-missouri-teen-with-suv-severing-his-legs-and-killing-him/706446/35 "2014-12-06T15:03:06Z")
> [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](#): > > “Muslim-hating man rams Missouri teen with SUV, severing his legs and killing him” > > Your right to be suspiscious. Isn’t that a great headline? Lurid, but great. It ticks so many boxes for clicks. Far better than “Somali man murders Somali teen”. I have little doubt there is a religious element to this. However, neither would I be surprised if there were allsorts of tensions in the US-Somali community. Tensions which are part religious and in part political. what do you expect from “Raw Story?” everything is about clickbait these days. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-hating-man-rams-missouri-teen-with-suv-severing-his-legs-and-killing-him/706446/36 "2014-12-06T16:33:00Z")
Kansas City Star article : [Man charged with murder for allegedly charging teen with SUV outside Kansas City mosque](http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article4299890.html) It sounds very much like a paranoid, violent person went looking to hurt someone. > [@](#): > > Christian and Muslim Somalis, he said, get along well in Kansas City. > > “I don’t think this is a Christian, Muslim issue,” he said. “I think this is a mental issue.” ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-hating-man-rams-missouri-teen-with-suv-severing-his-legs-and-killing-him/706446/37 "2014-12-06T17:06:40Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I know, right? > > You come to this country (or are born here) with the expectation of certain freedoms. There is the expectation that you will give the same respect as you receive. ‘My god’s better than your god’ isn’t the way it’s supposed to work. I take it you’ve never heard of the War on Christmas or various other accusations of “persecution” Christians claim they face? “My god’s better than your god” is _exactly_ the way a lot of Americans think it’s supposed to work. Provided, of course, that works that way for them and only them. ---
**Author:** ![nani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58956e/32.png) [@nani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nani)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-hating-man-rams-missouri-teen-with-suv-severing-his-legs-and-killing-him/706446/38 "2014-12-06T18:57:42Z")
> [@Grey](#): > > Kansas City Star article : [Man charged with murder for allegedly charging teen with SUV outside Kansas City mosque](http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article4299890.html) > > It sounds very much like a paranoid, violent person went looking to hurt someone. Thanks for that article. It does say that the killer is a Somali Christian, though the killing is not thought to be demonstrative of a deeper communal problem. Regardless, a very sad story. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslim-hating-man-rams-missouri-teen-with-suv-severing-his-legs-and-killing-him/706446.md?page=1)