# Muslims: Why are we so reserved to them? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 21, 2002, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslims-why-are-we-so-reserved-to-them/104812 "2002-04-21T15:45:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![kniz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c37758/32.png) [@kniz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kniz)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslims-why-are-we-so-reserved-to-them/104812/41 "2002-04-22T03:15:59Z")
Sorry, I’m not thru. Communism is a bad system that if I had time I’d take to the Pit, just as I would someone saying that Facism was a good form of government. We need to learn from history, not constantly start over from scratch generation to generation. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Frink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Mr.Frink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Frink)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslims-why-are-we-so-reserved-to-them/104812/42 "2002-04-22T05:21:03Z")
\*\* “Capitalism leads to dole queues, the scramble for markets, and war. Collectivism leads to concentration camps, leader worship, and war. There is no way out of this unless a planned economy can somehow be combined with the freedom of the intellect.”\*\* --\* George Orwell, 1944\* ---
**Author:** ![Kirkland1244](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kirkland1244](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kirkland1244)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslims-why-are-we-so-reserved-to-them/104812/43 "2002-04-22T05:40:07Z")
Yes, there is a clear distinction between Socialists and Communists. Socialism, while still favoring state ownership, does not generally call for the total end to private property, nor does it generally seek to end free speech, free thought, civil rights, or democratic elections. Communism seeks to end all of those. There’s a reason why the old Communists used to use the slogan “Vote for us, and you’ll never have to vote again.” Kirk ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslims-why-are-we-so-reserved-to-them/104812/44 "2002-04-22T11:48:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kniz \* > \*\*One difference **Johnny T** is that if I visit your country and have health problems I am pretty much in a bind. If you visit the U.S. we’ll take care of you and worry about settling the bill later. \*\* Don’t think this is strictly true. You would receive treatment by the NHS regardless of nationality. Whether or not you’d have to pay later, I don’t know, but a Japanese friend of mine was seen and treated by an NHS doctor about 10 years ago for no charge. ---
**Author:** ![Komsomol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecc23a/32.png) [@Komsomol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Komsomol)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslims-why-are-we-so-reserved-to-them/104812/45 "2002-04-23T19:18:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Daoloth \* > \*\*Now you’ve changed your sig to “Let the revolution begin!!!”. Do you know about all the death and suffering that Communist revolutions have caused? All the displaced families, secret tortures, and mass starvation that has resulted from these revolutions of oppression? Don’t be surprised you’re getting flamed for being openly Communist. You deserve it. In all its history, Communism has done more harm than fascism and Nazism combined. \*\* Looks like I have jumped from the frying pan and into the fire! ---
**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslims-why-are-we-so-reserved-to-them/104812/46 "2002-04-23T22:33:20Z")
\>\> Looks like I have jumped from the frying pan and into the fire! No, the fire is in the pit but given the tenor of the threads you have started I feel it is quite likely we will soon see you there. ---
**Author:** ![Komsomol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecc23a/32.png) [@Komsomol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Komsomol)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2002, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslims-why-are-we-so-reserved-to-them/104812/47 "2002-04-24T06:58:37Z")
Great! I can’t even make a joke. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/muslims-why-are-we-so-reserved-to-them/104812.md?page=2)