# Mustangs **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [July 18, 2014, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mustangs/693450 "2014-07-18T13:34:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mustangs/693450/21 "2014-07-18T19:29:53Z")
[This one?](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Supply_and_demand) ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mustangs/693450/22 "2014-07-18T20:23:11Z")
> [@epbrown01](#): > > More baloney - there’s no way you’re a car enthusiast yet don’t know that your behavior is not the norm. The typical sports car sees 2500-3500 miles a year because the typical sports car is the owner’s second or third car, not a daily driver. > > In the case of something like the Mustang, yes, you’ll find many that are daily drivers - those don’t tend to be the hi-po models or special editions. Agreed. As I mentioned up-thread I’m considering purchasing a used Corvette, and I have been happily surprised at the availability and relatively low price of almost 20 year old cars that have 40 to 60 thousand miles on them. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mustangs/693450/23 "2014-07-18T21:05:16Z")
> [@epbrown01](#): > > More baloney - there’s no way you’re a car enthusiast yet don’t know that your behavior is not the norm. The typical sports car sees 2500-3500 miles a year because the typical sports car is the owner’s second or third car, not a daily driver. > > In the case of something like the Mustang, yes, you’ll find many that are daily drivers - those don’t tend to be the hi-po models or special editions. I know of several people who drive GTs, Boss 302s and Shelby 500s more than 250 miles a week commuting. They are not so exotic as to be weekend-only cars. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mustangs/693450/24 "2014-07-18T21:15:36Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Weird; it was a link to the Wiki page about supply and demand. Protip: the “Preview” button allows you to check out your URLs. Can save a world of misunderstandings when the URL you thought you posted isn’t the URL you posted, and you’re the last to know. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mustangs/693450/25 "2014-07-18T21:27:22Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Yeah, I guess I was. Can anybody explain it to me? I’m a little extra dense this morning. 😕 Go back and quote the original post and read the “coding”. It’s not a link at all. I thought on purpose but I guess not. ---
**Author:** ![SanDiegoTim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@SanDiegoTim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanDiegoTim)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mustangs/693450/26 "2014-07-18T21:32:38Z")
Horsepower and guns…you’ll always have more than you need, but less than you want. ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mustangs/693450/27 "2014-07-18T22:03:40Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > I know of several people who drive GTs, Boss 302s and Shelby 500s more than 250 miles a week commuting. They are not so exotic as to be weekend-only cars. I drove my Mustang GT (removable glass tops) for nine years, in the snowbelt, winter and in summer, from Canada to Mexico and both coasts, with Michelin summer tires (the rest of the name I forget, but the rims took only those tires), and put more than 400,000 kilometres on it. It wasn’t a Shelby, but I shook off a Porsche through the mountains on an interstate. I sold it when I broke my clutch leg. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mustangs/693450/28 "2014-07-18T22:15:27Z")
Because not everyone is poor. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mustangs/693450/29 "2014-07-18T22:21:37Z")
> [@SanDiegoTim](#): > > Horsepower and guns…you’ll always have more than you need, but less than you want. I have more guns than I need or want. I’ll sell you… Oh. Sorry, the cool ones are not legal in California. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![SanDiegoTim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@SanDiegoTim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanDiegoTim)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mustangs/693450/30 "2014-07-18T23:13:25Z")
So true. So true. Fortunately, however, horsepower still is. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mustangs/693450/31 "2014-07-18T23:13:31Z")
> [@Rick](#): > > Go back and quote the original post and read the “coding”. It’s not a link at all. > I thought on purpose but I guess not. Yeah, I did do that. That’s why I couldn’t figure out why you thought I was being whooshed. It looked like **ChefGuy** made a mistake in the coding, which he admits he did, so there was no whoosh intended. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2014, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mustangs/693450/32 "2014-07-18T23:38:20Z")
> [@SanDiegoTim](#): > > Fortunately, however, horsepower still is. It wasn’t, for quite a few years. That even SoCalians can now buy cars that make the Pontiac 400/403 switcheroo look like a joke is, truly, a miracle. (I think much the same of DVDs vs the furious VHS/Beta squabbles over a few dozen lines of resolution…) ---
**Author:** ![FluffyBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@FluffyBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FluffyBob)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mustangs/693450/33 "2014-07-19T00:00:51Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > Baloney. I drive my Vette everyday. And before this I drove my Jaguar XK almost every day. I even drove my Mustang GT during the winter. Easy there cowboy I said rarely not never. And by ‘hobby’ I do not mean to diminish it but rather that it is something you drive because it is fun not because it is cheap on gas. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mustangs/693450/34 "2014-07-19T01:07:40Z")
> [@Rick](#): > > Go back and quote the original post and read the “coding”. It’s not a link at all. > I thought on purpose but I guess not. Yeah I saw that. Honestly, I did the Ctrl C on the URL, then Ctrl V into the linky. Or at least I thought so. I usually check to make sure the link goes where I wanted it to, but not this time. ::shakes fist at OP:: ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mustangs/693450/35 "2014-07-19T02:31:00Z")
You guys need to open your eyes. Not only do I see tons of sports cars on the road and in the parking lots of office buildings, I invite you to look them up on Auto Trader and check the mileage of some of them. Pretty high for their year. Sure, some will buy a Porsche and hardly ever drive it. I know guys that have a Harley and never ride it. But a lot of these cars are being driven and enjoyed every day possible. My '07 Jag had 110K on it when I traded it this last April. It had 40K when I bought it used in late 2009. And my '09 GT had over 60K when I got rid of it. Many of my friends have Porsches, Jaguars, and Mustangs and most drive them regularly and put many miles on them. ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mustangs/693450/36 "2014-07-19T12:12:13Z")
Agreed, in terms of absolutes. At the same time, you CAN easily find a 20 year old sports car with 40k miles on it. You would be much more hard pressed to find a Honda Accord that the same is true of. No one keeps their Accord sitting in the garage looking forward to a Saturday drive in the mountains Since this thread started off with the Mustang, let’s stay there. I’m going to get flamed for this, but the Mustang does not fit the profile for a sports car. Neither does the Camaro, or the new Challenger. They are muscle cars. Yes they can be souped up to be canyon carvers, but in their most popular selling clothes, they are not sports cars. A v-6 mustang? Not a sports car. A v-8 mustang? Not necessarily. Even the GT is not a sports car to me. It is a great car, don’t get me wrong, but it’s too practical. A Shelby 500. Yes. But likely not driven every day either. I’m a middle aged dude. I have a semi boring daily driver, a Subaru Ouback. I am buying a C4 generation Corvette. Guess which one will be driven to the grocery store, to take the dog to the vet, to be parked in the subway system park and ride lot, to anywhere that requires a little cargo space? Yep, the Outback. The outback will continue to rack up the miles while I doubt the Vette will do 5k a year. All this strays away from the OP. We buy these somewhat impractical cars because we can, and we want to. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mustangs/693450/37 "2014-07-19T18:14:27Z")
> [@leftfield6](#): > > Since this thread started off with the Mustang, let’s stay there. I’m going to get flamed for this, but the Mustang does not fit the profile for a sports car. Neither does the Camaro, or the new Challenger. They are muscle cars. Yes they can be souped up to be canyon carvers, but in their most popular selling clothes, they are not sports cars. A v-6 mustang? Not a sports car. A v-8 mustang? Not necessarily. Even the GT is not a sports car to me. It is a great car, don’t get me wrong, but it’s too practical. A Shelby 500. Yes. But likely not driven every day either. Which is pretty much what I said. The Camaro, Mustang, and new Challenger have a sort of dual positioning. There are old guys that buy them as 2nd or 3rd cars and drive them only on sunny weekends, especially the special editions. I’ve got a friend with a “Bullitt” that has less than a thousand miles on it and damned if he didn’t sell his 80s Porsche to get it. But they have your typical lo-po workaday models that yuppies in Indiana, Kentucky and Tennessee daily drive about like Chicagoans run BMW 3-series. But this is pretty much a repeat of when muscle cars debuted - you can find a cheap 6-cylinder Mustang easily, but you’ll pay through the nose for the top models which often spent their lives being rubbed with diapers about as much as they were driven. As for the OP (who “will never return, no he’ll never returned and his tail is still unlearned”), he had to be kidding. The gas guzzler tax just generates revenue on these cars, it doesn’t discourage them. Why pick on the Mustang? ---
**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mustangs/693450/38 "2014-07-19T19:22:23Z")
> [@Texledo](#): > > Why are they selling 440 hp Mustangs when oil is reaching peak supply? What bothers me about this post is that the OP seems to be implying that the government should step in and prohibit the sales of these Mustangs. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mustangs/693450/39 "2014-07-19T20:17:49Z")
> [@Mangosteen](#): > > What bothers me about this post is that the OP seems to be implying that the government should step in and prohibit the sales of these Mustangs. Bothers you? Brudda, you need to get off the internet. It’s nothing but people who want “someone” to stop something they don’t like… such as gummint nannyism. 😃 Every once in a while, I end up beside something like a Prius at a stop light while driving the summer car. They either go into “dear, dear me!” nose-in-the-air mode, or grin. In the latter case, I call out, “Hey, between us we’re getting 25 miles to the gallon!” It gets a laugh. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mustangs/693450.md?page=1)