# Mutiny on the Queen Mary 2! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 23, 2006, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mutiny-on-the-queen-mary-2/341183 "2006-01-23T01:33:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mutiny-on-the-queen-mary-2/341183/1 "2006-01-23T01:33:04Z")
[This never happened to Captain Stubing.](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4637240.stm) > [@](#): > > “The mood among passengers is extremely angry and becoming more so.” > > Mr Berg said many of the 2,500 passengers are demanding a full refund and are threatening to refuse to disembark at Rio de Janeiro or pay for anything on board. > > He says passengers have held several angry meetings with the Queen Mary’s captain, Commodore Ronald Warwick, but have not yet reached a satisfactory outcome. It almost sounds like she’s a “cursed ship.” > [@](#): > > This latest mishap is not the first time the liner has known trouble. > > Fifteen people were killed when a gangway collapsed while the ship was in dry dock at St Nazaire, France, in 2003. > > In 2004, she arrived back home from her maiden voyage late after bow doors covering propellers failed to shut in Portugal. IIRC, some of the rooms on the QM2 will set you back a cool $50K, the people with that kind of income aren’t the ones you want to be pissing off. ---
**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mutiny-on-the-queen-mary-2/341183/2 "2006-01-23T01:47:20Z")
From the story > [@](#): > > The British-registered ship had to be towed back to Fort Lauderdale in Florida on 17 January after one of its motors hit an underwater channel. > > Passengers have reacted angrily to the change of plans, saying they were only told scheduled stops - at the Caribbean islands of St Kitts and Barbados, and Salvador in Brazil - were cancelled once the ship set sail from Fort Lauderdale. > > \ > > A spokesman from Cunard said: "The ship is proceeding on three engines and therefore is moving slightly slower than it would on four engines. > > We have 1,000 passengers that are being picked up at Rio, and it’s essential it arrive in Rio on time. Christ Jesus, aren’t they even going to try to repair the ship, or are they planning to screw over the next batch of passengers, too? ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mutiny-on-the-queen-mary-2/341183/3 "2006-01-23T02:01:56Z")
I actually know two people now aboard QM2 – a former cow-orker and his elderly uncle (an 80something former steamship executive and inveterate globetrotter). However I doubt they’re too terribly put out by her canceling ports of call. They’re hardcore – the odd kind of travelers who go to sea for the sake of going to sea. As long as there are 3 squares a day and a working bar, they’ll do fine. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mutiny-on-the-queen-mary-2/341183/4 "2006-01-23T02:09:45Z")
> [@Beware of Doug](#): > > **Holy cat** [Holy cat](http://www.nilecommerce.net/images/statues/colored/greencat2L.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mutiny-on-the-queen-mary-2/341183/5 "2006-01-23T02:13:51Z")
Nice kitty. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mutiny-on-the-queen-mary-2/341183/6 "2006-01-23T02:27:23Z")
" Save up to 75% on Cunard Vacations To Go offers huge discounts on Cunard Cruises. [vacationstogo.com](http://vacationstogo.com) " Heh heh. I wonder just what a ticket says on the back, to the QM2. There must be a shitload of disclaimers that cover such events as this. Fiddy Grand is a lot of money to go to sleep every night deeply intoxicated in a room half the size of a cell at Sing Sing. On the upside, they did the right thing and towed back into port immediately. They could have forged on for Rio. Which would have had them meandering all over the Bermuda Triangle. God knows what would have become of them then !! I’d want to stay on board. I’ve never taken a cruise but I adore the ocean. Ports of call sound cool, but - and I defer to cruise takers on this one - from what I’ve heard, they are fast-paced, high-pressure visits that deposit you directly at one overpriced tchotchka hut after the next. Cartooniverse ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mutiny-on-the-queen-mary-2/341183/7 "2006-01-23T02:28:28Z")
I forgot to ask, sorry for the double-post… **Beware of Doug** , can your pals get cel phone service on the ship? Can you call them? What’s the mood on board? ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mutiny-on-the-queen-mary-2/341183/8 "2006-01-23T02:36:20Z")
> [@Lissa](#): > > Christ Jesus, aren’t they even going to try to repair the ship, or are they planning to screw over the next batch of passengers, too? Well, it sounds like the alternatives are picking up the passengers, giving them a reduced itinerary, and refunding them most of the cost of the trip, then (presumably) heading for Europe and the dry dock…or not picking them up, refunding them not-a-lot more, pissing them off a lot more, and just heading straight for the dry dock. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mutiny-on-the-queen-mary-2/341183/9 "2006-01-23T02:42:33Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > Fiddy Grand is a lot of money to go to sleep every night deeply intoxicated in a room half the size of a cell at Sing Sing. [Oh, no, the big ticket rooms are _much_ nicer than the ones at Sing Sing.](http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/transportation/1289256.html?page=3&c=y) > [@](#): > > And nowhere is this pursuit more evident than in the luxurious duplex-apartment staterooms. Measuring between 1566 and 2249 sq. ft., the most majestic suites are larger than most American homes. Spanning two floors, each of these five duplex apartments overlooks the ship’s stern. Each features a balcony, an exercise area and a private library stocked with current best sellers and CDs. In addition to two full marble bathrooms with a tub and a shower in each, there is a guest bathroom with a shower. A butler serves meals prepared by the ship’s premier restaurant, the Queens Grill. Still feeling a bit confined? Cunard has designed the individual apartments so they can open up to create one superluxury unit, with 9000 sq. ft. of living space. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mutiny-on-the-queen-mary-2/341183/10 "2006-01-23T02:49:56Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > I forgot to ask, sorry for the double-post… **Beware of Doug** , can your pals get cel phone service on the ship? Can you call them? What’s the mood on board? I have no idea about cel phones, but they have AOL, so I’ll try dropping them a line that way. No guarantees, though. ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mutiny-on-the-queen-mary-2/341183/11 "2006-01-23T03:00:34Z")
[q]there is a guest bathroom with a shower[/q] On a ship? What’s it for, stowaways? ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mutiny-on-the-queen-mary-2/341183/12 "2006-01-23T03:13:09Z")
> [@GorillaMan](#): > > [q]there is a guest bathroom with a shower[/q] > On a ship? What’s it for, stowaways? That’s so if you decide to pick up someone from the “lower classes” in the ship’s bar, you don’t have to let them clean your love juices off themselves in your shower. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mutiny-on-the-queen-mary-2/341183/13 "2006-01-23T03:17:11Z")
> [@Beware of Doug](#): > > They’re hardcore – the odd kind of travelers who go to sea for the sake of going to sea. As long as there are 3 squares a day and a working bar, they’ll do fine. I’d like to do that someday. I have little or no interest in a cruise, but a days long trip from point A to point B I think I’d enjoy. Or maybe an around the world trip. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mutiny-on-the-queen-mary-2/341183/14 "2006-01-23T03:22:41Z")
If I´d be part of the crew I´d be more nervous than a gator in a shoe factory; that´s one long keel to be hauled along and a hell of a drop from the planck to the splash. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![picunurse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@picunurse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picunurse)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mutiny-on-the-queen-mary-2/341183/15 "2006-01-23T03:56:55Z")
Now wait… It’s a 38 day cruise. They’ve missed 2 of their ports of call because the ship has to go a bit slower than expected. There are another 1000 passengers boarding in Rio, so it needs to be on time. _The passengers who have been inconvienced are getting a 50% discount!?_ They missed two stops! They don’t finish the cruise until Feburary 22th. Half of 38 is 19, not two. I’d trade places with any of the whiners. **Tuckerfan** , cruises today don’t have classes. The cheap seats are in the bottom of the boat, but everything else is the same for everyone. **Frank** , the best part of a cruise are the days at sea. No obligations, except to make dinner on time. You can get a massage, go to a movie, gamble, run the track or just lie in the sun. yummy. There are lots of other things to do too, but they sound like too much work to me. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mutiny-on-the-queen-mary-2/341183/16 "2006-01-23T04:03:57Z")
> [@picunurse](#): > > **Tuckerfan** , cruises today don’t have classes. The cheap seats are in the bottom of the boat, but everything else is the same for everyone. Well, yeah, but I was speaking about social classes more than anything else. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mutiny-on-the-queen-mary-2/341183/17 "2006-01-23T04:30:14Z")
I’d stop their grog, damme if I wouldn’t! Give 'em all a taste of the cat, and hang the ringleaders from the yardarm, the damned scurvy lubbers! Only way to deal with mutineers. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mutiny-on-the-queen-mary-2/341183/18 "2006-01-23T04:45:19Z")
Let me be the first to say it. ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Avast, ye scurvy dogs! The passengers should rise up, kill the crew, and take 'er over as he GREATEST PIRATE SHIP t’ever sail the seven seas! Arrrrrrr! Can you imagine a 150,000-ton pirate ship? Holy shit! “Bill, that looks like the Queen Mary coming this way.” “Well, geez, it does. What’s it doing here?” “The passengers are all at the bow… are they waving cutlasses?” “Hey, it’s flying the Jolly Roger!” WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNKKK! (Ship’s foghorn deafens everyone) ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Goob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c77e96/32.png) [@Mr.Goob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Goob)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mutiny-on-the-queen-mary-2/341183/19 "2006-01-23T15:09:14Z")
It would be more fun if it were [September 19th](http://www.talklikeapirate.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mutiny-on-the-queen-mary-2/341183/20 "2006-01-23T18:14:10Z")
And, of course, my grandparents just _have_ to go on a cruise in a few days. _frets_ [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mutiny-on-the-queen-mary-2/341183.md?page=2)