# My 5 year old niece says Obama kills babies

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 12, 2010, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-5-year-old-niece-says-obama-kills-babies/542943 "2010-06-12T18:50:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-5-year-old-niece-says-obama-kills-babies/542943/41 "2010-06-13T16:19:26Z")

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> [@Captain\_Midnight](#):
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> Obama is pro abortion which is the murdering of human beings.
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> Obama is also the Commander and Chief of a military that bombs innocents all over the World.
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> So, yes, Mr. Smith is right.

Cite for each of your claims, if you please.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-5-year-old-niece-says-obama-kills-babies/542943/42 "2010-06-13T16:27:10Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> …but it is his fault the oil leak in the gulf has not be plugged.

As opposed to Bush, who’d have given BP a tax-break for providing gulf coast states with free sun-block & lube.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-5-year-old-niece-says-obama-kills-babies/542943/43 "2010-06-13T16:28:02Z")

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_Who paid for the bullets that put all the babies and children in shrouds and mortuaries and graves last year in Gaza?_

B-A-R-A-C-K O-B-A-M-A!

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-5-year-old-niece-says-obama-kills-babies/542943/44 "2010-06-13T17:28:18Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> _Who paid for the bullets that put all the babies and children in shrouds and mortuaries and graves last year in Gaza?_
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> B-A-R-A-C-K O-B-A-M-A!

Correction:

B-A-R-A-C-K **H-U-S-S-E-I-N** O-B-A-M-A!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-5-year-old-niece-says-obama-kills-babies/542943/45 "2010-06-13T17:55:24Z")

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> [@zamboniracer](#):
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> I was playing the kids card game [Fling](http://www.epinions.com/review/Fling_Card_Game/content_497768763012) with the 5 year old - and getting my rear end kicked, BTW - when she announced “Obama kills babies.”

Not babies. Only 5-year-olds who listen to bad old Mr. Smith.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-5-year-old-niece-says-obama-kills-babies/542943/46 "2010-06-13T17:58:51Z")

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> [@Captain\_Midnight](#):
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> Obama is pro abortion which is the murdering of human beings.
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> Obama is also the Commander and Chief of a military that bombs innocents all over the World.
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> So, yes, Mr. Smith is right.

A five year old is going to understand that as Obama personally kills babies. Which he doesn’t do. Context.

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**Author:** ![Troubles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Troubles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troubles)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-5-year-old-niece-says-obama-kills-babies/542943/47 "2010-06-13T18:39:31Z")

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I’ve been waiting for someone else to respond to this, but seeing as no one has yet…

> [@dnooman](#):
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> Should a slutty girl be able to use abortion as a last resort contraception method? Fuck no!

Why? Why should a woman be forced to go through an unwanted pregnancy?

It’s her body, it’s her choice. If she doesn’t want to have a baby, she shouldn’t be forced to. Unless you’re talking about 3rd trimester abortion, which is definitely a more muddled and ambiguous topic than 2nd or 1st trimester abortion.

I swear I’m not trying to turn this thread into an abortion debate (really, I swear!); I just want to know the reasoning behind **dnooman** ’s rather bold statement.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-5-year-old-niece-says-obama-kills-babies/542943/48 "2010-06-13T18:52:05Z")

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> [@Troubles](#):
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> I’ve been waiting for someone else to respond to this, but seeing as no one has yet…
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> Why? Why should a woman be forced to go through an unwanted pregnancy?
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> It’s her body, it’s her choice. If she doesn’t want to have a baby, she shouldn’t be forced to. Unless you’re talking about 3rd trimester abortion, which is definitely a more muddled and ambiguous topic than 2nd or 1st trimester abortion.
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> I swear I’m not trying to turn this thread into an abortion debate (really, I swear!); I just want to know the reasoning behind **dnooman** ’s rather bold statement.

Oh, I missed that one. Let me add: Abortion is either OK or not OK. Whether or not the women was “slutty” has nothing to do with it. While we have to have a cut-off somewhere on elective abortion, as long as you’re within that cut-off period, basing the legality of abortion on the motivation of the mother is absurd.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-5-year-old-niece-says-obama-kills-babies/542943/49 "2010-06-13T19:18:07Z")

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A person’s personal medical decisions are either the business of the government, or they are not. It is a constitutional right in the USA that a person’s medical decisions are a person’s private business and not the governments absent a greater interest, which third trimester counts as, and which serving in the military counts as. There are very few exceptions.

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-5-year-old-niece-says-obama-kills-babies/542943/50 "2010-06-13T19:50:23Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Oh, I missed that one. Let me add: Abortion is either OK or not OK. Whether or not the women was “slutty” has nothing to do with it…

Aw, c’mon. Why _can’t_ we have special laws that only apply to loose women and douchbag guys?  
Got a tramp stamp? Parking ticket. Mullet and wifebeater (or Polo shirt with “popped” collar)? Spend the night in lockup.

All fines collected would go into the “picnic for all the people with self-control” fund.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-5-year-old-niece-says-obama-kills-babies/542943/51 "2010-06-13T20:01:05Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> . . . . Whether or not the women was “slutty” has nothing to do with it. . . .

How would that be decided and by whom anyway?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-5-year-old-niece-says-obama-kills-babies/542943/52 "2010-06-13T20:13:36Z")

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If we’re going to turn this into a serious discussion, can we at least all agree that regardless of what your views are about abortion you really shouldn’t be discussing them with a five year old girl?

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-5-year-old-niece-says-obama-kills-babies/542943/53 "2010-06-13T20:20:14Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> How do we know the young girl hasn’t been a guest at the Bohemian Grove, and is just reporting what she saw?

I think Nixon had the most accurate summing up of what goes on there 😃

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-5-year-old-niece-says-obama-kills-babies/542943/54 "2010-06-13T20:50:43Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> If we’re going to turn this into a serious discussion, can we at least all agree that regardless of what your views are about abortion you really shouldn’t be discussing them with a five year old girl?

And that five years olds have the right to keep and bear arms as well.

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-5-year-old-niece-says-obama-kills-babies/542943/55 "2010-06-13T21:19:42Z")

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I think most of you are missing the point in the talk about abortion and the Middle Eastern wars. Obama was a senator from Illinois - that’s what we have to remember. Here’s a quote from Barrack before he became nationally known:

“He pulls an attack ad, you pull his manwhore scandal. He kisses babies at the hospital, you send his babies to the morgue. That’s the Chicago way, and that’s how you get elected”

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-5-year-old-niece-says-obama-kills-babies/542943/56 "2010-06-13T21:34:57Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> I think most of you are missing the point in the talk about abortion and the Middle Eastern wars. Obama was a senator from Illinois - that’s what we have to remember. Here’s a quote from Barrack before he became nationally known:
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> “He pulls an attack ad, you pull his manwhore scandal. He kisses babies at the hospital, you send his babies to the morgue. That’s the Chicago way, and that’s how you get elected”

Although we all know that no one has ever told a lie in order to defame Obama, I’m still gonna have to ask for a cite.

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-5-year-old-niece-says-obama-kills-babies/542943/57 "2010-06-13T21:49:35Z")

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> [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](#):
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> Although we all know that no one has ever told a lie in order to defame Obama, I’m still gonna have to ask for a cite.

> **[The Untouchables (1987) - Quotes - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094226/quotes/?qt0439712%5BURL=%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imdb.com%2Ftitle%2Ftt0094226%2Fquotes%22%5D)**
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> The Untouchables: During Prohibition, Treasury agent Eliot Ness sets out to stop ruthless Chicago gangster Al Capone, and assembles a small, incorruptible team to help him.

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-5-year-old-niece-says-obama-kills-babies/542943/58 "2010-06-13T21:53:04Z")

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> [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](#):
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> Although we all know that no one has ever told a lie in order to defame Obama, I’m still gonna have to ask for a cite.

Here’s a [campaign ad](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sK3-6fvGoE) from 1987. It’s also evidence that Obama was not born in the U.S. If he was born in the US, where did he get the Scottish accent? These are questions that need to be asked.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2010, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-5-year-old-niece-says-obama-kills-babies/542943/59 "2010-06-14T02:56:28Z")

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> [@elelle](#):
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> Why would any decent adult say anything about “killing babies” in any sense to a five year old?

As a threat, of course. Look, there are some occasions when “Your face will freeze that way!” just doesn’t cut it.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2010, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-5-year-old-niece-says-obama-kills-babies/542943/60 "2010-06-14T03:01:04Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Yours, partly, if you’re from New Zealand or Australia, since your government is a participant in the Afghan conflict coalition.

He’s not from New Zealand (I hope) we have a sense of humour and perspective…

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