# My Amazing Encounters with Jesus Christ **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 2, 2016, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774 "2016-03-02T22:47:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/641 "2016-03-13T20:54:01Z")
> [@ScottRP](#): > > Although Adam and Eve chose to disobey God, It was Lucifer that brought evil into this world. So God either created that evil or He didn’t prevent it’s creation. So God wanted evil in the world. ---
**Author:** ![ScottRP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ScottRP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScottRP)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/642 "2016-03-13T20:54:20Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > McDonald’s The fall of man and the work that precedes it feeds Lucifer. This has been his will since the very beginning. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/643 "2016-03-13T20:56:00Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > That is a PDF link. Just a bit of advice, ScottRP: On this board, it’s considered good form to alert others that a link you’ve posted is a PDF. The reason for that is quite a number of posters have issues with their computer opening online PDFs. Pretty good advice, _for 15 years ago_. Modern browsers like Chrome are not fazed by PDFs in the least and such a warning is unnecessary. ---
**Author:** ![ScottRP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ScottRP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScottRP)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/644 "2016-03-13T21:07:09Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > God is omnipotent, right? He can do anything? > > So if God wanted everyone to be saved, then everybody would be saved. God simply has to make that choice. Especially because God was the one who originally condemned everyone to damnation. > > So if God only saves people who worship him, then God made a choice. God decided that having people worship him is more important than having people saved. God decided not to save the people who don’t worship him even though he could save those people. > > God could just say _“Everyone gets into heaven. It doesn’t matter what you do, I forgive everything. Now I’d like it if you worshiped me but it’s not a requirement. I’m letting you into heaven whether you worship me or not.”_ He is God after all. Nobody can tell him he can’t let everyone into heaven. Worship is not a requirement. Romans 10:9-10. that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/645 "2016-03-13T21:15:16Z")
> [@ScottRP](#): > > Although Adam and Eve chose to disobey God, It was Lucifer that brought evil into this world. Do you have a Biblical reference for this … Isaiah ch 14 doesn’t say anything of this sort. Just that Lucifer thought to set himself above The Lord Our God, and was cast down. ---
**Author:** ![ScottRP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ScottRP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScottRP)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/646 "2016-03-13T21:15:50Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Let’s go with your OP and what you described as God the Father giving you personal revelation. How does that square with actual Roman Catholic doctrine, tradition, and practice? There is nothing in my opening post that conflicts with Catholic Theology. You are going to have to be more specific. > [@Monty](#): > > And, like some other posters, I’ll ask you again: Have you run any of your “religious ideas” past an actual Roman Catholic priest, one who does know about Roman Catholic doctrine, tradition, and practice? This work has been approved for the atonement of the dead by the highest of priests, Jesus Christ Himself. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/647 "2016-03-13T21:16:21Z")
> [@ScottRP](#): > > Although Adam and Eve chose to disobey God, It was Lucifer that brought evil into this world. You did not answer the queslion. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/648 "2016-03-13T21:18:07Z")
> [@ScottRP](#): > > Worship is not a requirement. > > Romans 10:9-10. that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. To believe that which does not stand up to the most rudimentary scrutiny; How is this anything less than blind worship? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/649 "2016-03-13T21:20:45Z")
> [@ScottRP](#): > > This work has been approved for the atonement of the dead by the highest of priests, Jesus Christ Himself. Says you. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/650 "2016-03-13T21:23:47Z")
> [@ScottRP](#): > > The fall of man and the work that precedes it feeds Lucifer. This has been his will since the very beginning. So, it’s been Gods WIll since the beginning that man would fall and sin and roast in hell for all eternity? pathetic god. ---
**Author:** ![ScottRP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ScottRP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScottRP)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/651 "2016-03-13T21:24:22Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > There are those as view “free will” as created by the church. As real as the transmogrification of the eucharist. God created us with free will. It is a better person who can choose to do or not to do things of their own free will. Would you rather has been created like an obedient robot? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/652 "2016-03-13T21:26:37Z")
> [@ScottRP](#): > > Although Adam and Eve chose to disobey God, It was Lucifer that brought evil into this world. Given their knowledge of “Good and [DEL][COLOR=“Black”]Plenty[/DEL][/COLOR] Evil” and their gift/curse of “Free Will[DEL][COLOR=“Black”]y[/DEL][/COLOR]” who’s fault was it really? Somehow, I am more skilled at garden maintenance than God is. P.S. Please describe Satan’s actual physical appearance. CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/653 "2016-03-13T21:27:09Z")
> [@ScottRP](#): > > **God created us with free will.** It is a better person who can choose to do or not to do things of their own free will. Would you rather has been created like an obedient robot? Remember the plagues on Egypt? Tell that to the Pharaoh. ---
**Author:** ![ScottRP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ScottRP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScottRP)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/654 "2016-03-13T21:34:56Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Good point. That’s another bit from him that contradicts RCC doctrine, tradition, and practice. Do to my experiences, I can explain some things in a little more detail than most Church Theologians. For instance, you are not going to find much better teachings on the Holy Spirit than I will give you here. The Church is not like any other Church in that it’s employees and members will all interpret some scripture differently. It does not take from the basic tenets of the Church. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/655 "2016-03-13T21:37:19Z")
Free will, eh? So if a person exercises that free will by living a good life. Does not do evil deeds. Follows the principle of the golden rule. But does not believe in god nor follow any religious practices. Does god send him to hell? ---
**Author:** ![ScottRP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ScottRP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScottRP)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/656 "2016-03-13T21:40:31Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Looks like you still fail at reading the links you provide. See this part at the bottom? > > So he thought he saw an alien. He doesn’t seem to think he encountered Jesus, angels, ghosts, spirits, or whatever you’re basing your faith on. That was only one testimony. There are a number of people witnessing to have seen the orb with their naked eyes. This dismisses your claim of them being photographic anomalies. Again, I am discussing spiritual orbs here and not merely something ball shaped. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/657 "2016-03-13T21:44:21Z")
> [@ScottRP](#): > > Do to my experiences, I can explain some things in a little more detail than most Church Theologians. For instance, you are not going to find much better teachings on the Holy Spirit than I will give you here. The Church is not like any other Church in that it’s employees and members will all interpret some scripture differently. It does not take from the basic tenets of the Church. So you would set your throne beside The Lord Our God’s, and point to Lucifer and say “See how the evil one should place his own throne above mine”. ---
**Author:** ![ScottRP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ScottRP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScottRP)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/658 "2016-03-13T21:48:26Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > So God either created that evil or He didn’t prevent it’s creation. > So God wanted evil in the world. You are not making sense. Lucifer was a fallen angel going against God’s will. Never did God want evil in this world. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/659 "2016-03-13T21:56:07Z")
> [@ScottRP](#): > > You are not making sense. Lucifer was a fallen angel going against God’s will. Never did God want evil in this world. Reference please, it does not say that in the King James Bible. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/660 "2016-03-13T22:05:22Z")
> [@ScottRP](#): > > You are not making sense. Lucifer was a fallen angel going against God’s will. Never did God want evil in this world. That’s not what you said here - > [@ScottRP](#): > > The fall of man and the work that precedes it feeds Lucifer. This has been his will since the very beginning. (I can only assume that by “his will” you mean GODS WILL) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774.md?page=34)