# My Amazing Encounters with Jesus Christ

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [March 2, 2016, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774 "2016-03-02T22:47:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ScottRP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ScottRP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScottRP)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/721 "2016-03-14T05:12:22Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> And He sounded _just_ like you.

God’s voice sounds of greatness not of this world. The sound of power wisps around His every word.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/722 "2016-03-14T05:12:46Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Soooo…You said something, but it was _really_ God using you as a ventriloquist dummy?

I don’t want to know where the Hand of God was.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/723 "2016-03-14T05:14:53Z")

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> [@ScottRP](#):
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> A person’s faith is a personal relationship between them and God. And has nothing to do with my personal experiences.

And yet you keep bringing them up, adding to them and expanding on them as if they were somehow important to your argument. I wonder just who you are trying to convince with these stories-us, or yourself?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/724 "2016-03-14T05:19:41Z")

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> [@ScottRP](#):
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> God’s voice sounds of greatness not of this world. The sound of power wisps around His every word.

The fact that you seem to think that the voice of your god comes out of your own mouth on occasion concerns me.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/725 "2016-03-14T05:20:00Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Leaving aside for the moment any objections I may have to only being presented with TWO choices, why must it be THOSE two in particular?
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> Why may I not choose Harry Potter or Voldemort by default?
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> Why not Spongebob Squarepants or Squidward Tentacles by default?
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> Why not Voldemort or Squidward Tentacles by default?
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> Why not Justine Jones or Mr. Abaca by default?

> [@ScottRP](#):
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> The two choices are part of scripture and is not meant as a personal attack. Any objections would be with scripture.
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> Mathew 12:30. He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad.

Can you give me a reason why I should treat the quoted verse (or indeed ANY writing that has been deemed “Scripture”) as authoritative?

Please understand in advance that any answer that does no more than restate Pascal’s Wager will not strike me as compelling.

If you do not know what “Pascal’s Wager” means, I urge you to look it up.

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**Author:** ![ScottRP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ScottRP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScottRP)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/726 "2016-03-14T05:27:58Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> The fact that you seem to think that the voice of your god comes out of your own mouth on occasion concerns me.

Here you are again muddling my words. He used my vocal cords to speak. He did not speak through my lips. And this only occurred once. Besides, what would it be to you if my Father had chosen to speak moving my lips?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/727 "2016-03-14T05:37:20Z")

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> [@ScottRP](#):
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> Here you are again muddling my words. He used my vocal cords to speak. He did not speak through my lips. And this only occurred once. Besides, what would it be to you if my Father had chosen to speak moving my lips?

I guess it would depend on what you convinced yourself your god used your vocal cords to say. What exactly _did_ he “say”?

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**Author:** ![ScottRP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ScottRP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScottRP)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/728 "2016-03-14T05:44:14Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I guess it would depend on what you convinced yourself your god used your vocal cords to say. What exactly _did_ he “say”?

He said, “the battle against good and evil has been here since the beginning of time.” God battles evil by delivering souls through His Son, Jesus Christ.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/729 "2016-03-14T05:44:16Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I guess it would depend on what you convinced yourself your god used your vocal cords to say. What exactly _did_ he “say”?

Oddly enough, though God was using his vocal cords, he was speaking in tongues.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/730 "2016-03-14T06:04:49Z")

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> [@ScottRP](#):
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> He said, “the battle against good and evil has been here since the beginning of time.” God battles evil by delivering souls through His Son, Jesus Christ.

That’s it?  
Why is it that when people claim to speak the words of otherworldly beings they either spew forth innocuous crap like this, or dangerous crap that gets people hurt and/or killed? He took possession of your body and used your vocal cords, and wasted time quoting a bumper sticker?

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**Author:** ![ScottRP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ScottRP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScottRP)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/731 "2016-03-14T06:18:04Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Oddly enough, though God was using his vocal cords, he was speaking in tongues.

He was not speaking in tongues. He spoke the language that I speak.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/732 "2016-03-14T06:21:46Z")

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> [@ScottRP](#):
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> He said, “the battle against good and evil has been here since the beginning of time.” God battles evil by delivering souls through His Son, Jesus Christ.

That’s exactly what he said?  
If we are to battle against good and evil, then what side are we fight for?  
Go, Neutrality! Go!

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**Author:** ![ScottRP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ScottRP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScottRP)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/733 "2016-03-14T06:22:31Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> That’s it?  
> Why is it that when people claim to speak the words of otherworldly beings they either spew forth innocuous crap like this, or dangerous crap that gets people hurt and/or killed? He took possession of your body and used your vocal cords, and wasted time quoting a bumper sticker?

You have muddled my words again, adding your own interpretation. He did not possess my body. He merely used my vocal cords to speak. This is not possession. You have this uncanny ability to see things the way you want to and not as they actually are.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/734 "2016-03-14T06:32:54Z")

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> [@ScottRP](#):
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> He said, “the battle against good and evil has been here since the beginning of time.” God battles evil by delivering souls through His Son, Jesus Christ.

Well, those trilobites did deserve it, they were looking at god funny…

It just that he waited 270 million years to do something about it. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/735 "2016-03-14T07:20:57Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> There are people who claim to have seen with their naked eyes, such things as the Loch Ness Monster, Fairies, Bigfoot, Reptilian humanoids, UFOs, Grey aliens and any number of other things. Should we believe them all just because they say they saw something?

> [@ScottRP](#):
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> For one, we have gotten good photographs of the Loch Ness monster. And millions of people bear witness to having seen UFO’s and aliens.

Wait a minute… That list was meant to be a set of examples of things that rational, sensible people probably don’t consider to be reliably reported by the people who claim to have seen them.  
Are you actually saying that you think the Loch Ness Monster, and sightings of UFOs and aliens are to be taken seriously?

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> You do not have to have seen for yourself nor believe that others like myself have seen Jesus Christ. You merely need to believe and have faith in Him as the Son of God, and your Lord and Savior.

I’m not asking to see - I’m suggesting that eyewitness account is horribly unreliable. We shouldn’t be too quick to accept what someone else says they saw; especially when their claim is extraordinary.

If you want people to believe without seeing, you wouldn’t be making an argument that is so heavily dependent on seeing spirit orbs.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/736 "2016-03-14T10:20:05Z")

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> [@ScottRP](#):
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> I do not claim to possess more knowledge than the Catholic Church. I said that on account of my experiences, there are a few things that I can teach in more detail than many within the Church is all. You say that I have diverged from Catholic Theology, but you have failed to show one point where this is true. For that matter, you have failed to even show one point where this might be true.

Really? Elucidate for us, then, the RCC stance on revelation. You know, like what you’ve posted you’ve received. Who is it that gets revelation for the church?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/737 "2016-03-14T11:18:40Z")

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> [@ScottRP](#):
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> Although this work has been approved by Jesus for the atonement of the dead

I’m sorry, but [I just gotta](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/Buddy_christ.jpg).

> [@ScottRP](#):
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> You have muddled my words again, adding your own interpretation. He did not possess my body. He merely used my vocal cords to speak. This is not possession.

While I don’t know you at all and IANA doctor of any sort, I would be remiss in failing to point out that this is also a classic symptom of schizophrenia. I say with genuine concern and interest: have you ever spoken to a mental health professional about your experiences?

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> You have this uncanny ability to see things the way you want to and not as they actually are.

Matthew 7:3-5 seems relevant here.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/738 "2016-03-14T11:49:42Z")

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> [@ScottRP](#):
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> You have muddled my words again, adding your own interpretation. He did not possess my body. He merely used my vocal cords to speak. This is not possession. You have this uncanny ability to see things the way you want to and not as they actually are.

Are you sticking with “the battle against good and evil has been here since the beginning of time.” being an accurate quote of God, as said through your vocal cords? I know that if some supernatural being took ahold of MY vocal cords and said 14 simple words, I would have no trouble remembering them at all-they would shine like a beacon in my memory.  
So he said “the battle _against_ good and evil…”??

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/739 "2016-03-14T12:00:15Z")

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> [@ScottRP](#):
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> That scripture is about Father God. I didn’t see Father God, He spoke to me using my own vocal cords and I heard His voice.

I like how you keep changing your story to fit…

Anyone else happen to hear this , or were you alone at the time?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/740 "2016-03-14T12:16:53Z")

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> [@ScottRP](#):
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> You have this uncanny ability to see things the way you want to and not as they actually are.

Funny, that’s what we’ve been saying about you in this thread.

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