# My Amazing Encounters with Jesus Christ

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [March 2, 2016, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774 "2016-03-02T22:47:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/161 "2016-03-04T02:16:54Z")

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> [@ScottRP](#):
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> The spirit is a memory of our bodies.

The Holy Spirit is of God, our bodies are just protoplasmic CO[sub]2[/sub] factories.

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**Author:** ![ScottRP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ScottRP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScottRP)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/162 "2016-03-04T02:17:15Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> **ScottRP** , you signed up back in October of 2014, but you don’t bother to tell us about Jesus until now? What about all those poor Dopers that have died and gone to Hell in that year and a half you kept silent?

:smack: Okay, you got me to chuckle.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/163 "2016-03-04T02:42:04Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> **ScottRP** , you signed up back in October of 2014, but you don’t bother to tell us about Jesus until now? What about all those poor Dopers that have died and gone to Hell in that year and a half you kept silent?

> [@ScottRP](#):
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> It was this work that I had offered up to Jesus for the atonement of the dead. Jesus has already approved this work. Would you rather see 75-80 souls remain in hell?

So - apparently - Jesus approved of ‘this’ work where \*\*ScottRP \*\*damned a number of SDMB members to hell for all eternity between his start date and when he actually started doing this glorious work.

> [@ScottRP](#):
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> :smack: Okay, you got me to chuckle.

and he laughs about it - but -

[QUOTE=John 11:35]  
Jesus Wept.  
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**Author:** ![ScottRP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ScottRP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScottRP)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/164 "2016-03-04T02:44:27Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Heya, **ScottRP**! In the various idle posts today, I imagine some posts get lost int he shuffle, so I’d love to continue our chat if you don’t mind.
> 
> No psychology, I’m just wondering what practical effect your experiences have on your life–this life, of course, not the next one.
> 
> Would you mind providing specifics? How does your relationship with and obedience to God change your behavior? What do you do in your life to be like Jesus?
> 
> In short, I suppose I’m asking: How do you _live_ the Gospel of Christ?  
> .

I try to be a kind, caring, loving, humble, considerate person.

I would like to share a miracle with you. Once a drank from the cup of a person who had hepatitis C and bleeding gums. I had contracted jaundice(a yellowing of skin) and tested positive for it twice. I cried out to Jesus. Today, my test results come back as if I never had it in the first place.

Mark 16:17-18. And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover."

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/165 "2016-03-04T02:44:51Z")

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> [@ScottRP](#):
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> [Before & After](http://i.imgur.com/j08ekHL.jpg)
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> Jesus had removed the anger and hatred from the dead’s hearts with His powers. They went from varying shades of darkness to white. Their souls are restored before going to heaven to be with God, Jesus, the angels, family and friends.

A picture of smurfs… really?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/166 "2016-03-04T02:53:21Z")

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> [@ScottRP](#):
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> I try to be a kind, caring, loving, humble, considerate person.

I’m glad.

What does that mean, in practice?

Does humility mean you acknowledge that you might be wrong, or even misled, about your beliefs?

Do kindness and love and consideration mean you sell your possessions and distribute your wealth to the poor, as the Christ taught? Are you rich in good works, as Timothy advised? Do you strive to better the lives of “the least among us?”

_How_ do you live the gospel?

Are you a better husband, father, brother, friend? Do you give your coat and then your shirt? Do you open wide your doors to the halt, the lame, the mad, the poor?

How do your revelations–yours alone, it seems–serve this world?

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/167 "2016-03-04T03:08:35Z")

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I don’t collect coats and shirts from the elderly widow women and orphans I provide safe affordable housing to, they can’t afford it. I know a little of what is right and just for myself, but I’ve been wrong before, I’m sure I’ll be wrong again. Spent my whole life trying to live by the Sermon on the Mound, a work in progress.

My revelation is that The Truth lies with JAH -

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/168 "2016-03-04T03:09:35Z")

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- rastifari

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/169 "2016-03-04T03:15:45Z")

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> [@ScottRP](#):
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> :smack: Okay, you got me to chuckle.

Staying silent for a year and a half when you could have been saving people from Hell makes you chuckle? :eek:

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/170 "2016-03-04T03:19:25Z")

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Wait, I haven’t read this entire thread but I am pretty sure it’s not Catholic doctrine that you can intercede for the dead and atone for their sins can you? I thought you had to personally accept Jesus as your saviour and ask for forgiveness yourself.

If you can intercede for the dead then Catholicism is even more messed up than I thought. So not only can you be a bad guy all your life then just confess your sins on your deathbed and get absolved, actually you don’t even have to do that. You can just be a bad person your entire life, die unforgiven and get someone else to atone for you.

Screw that, what kind of moral system is that? In Buddhism you actually have to perform good actions to cancel out your bad ones, its not enough to just ask forgiveness.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/171 "2016-03-04T03:20:41Z")

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> [@ScottRP](#):
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> Primarily, hell is the state or condition of being without God in the afterlife. The spirit is evil. Here is a video of a person who has evil spirits in his life. You can see an evil spirit who is in hell flying.
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> [Paranormal Exposure, Hard Evidence](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-k9PHX4MR4)

In Hell or in Australia? Same difference, I suppose.

> [@Telemark](#):
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> I was picturing William Shatner in _The Twilight Zone_, but that works too.

I’m picturing a kid given Phenobarbital for motion sickness (the mid-20th century truly was a golden age!) watching some guys in white jumpsuits washing or refueling a plane.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/172 "2016-03-04T03:46:15Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> {…} Spent my whole life trying to live by the Sermon on the Mound, a work in progress.
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> My revelation is that The Truth lies with JAH -

JAH or [Margaret Thatcher](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sermon_on_the_Mound)? 😕

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/173 "2016-03-04T04:08:56Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> JAH or [Margaret Thatcher](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sermon_on_the_Mound)? 😕
> 
> CMC fnord!

It was a hill goddammit …

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/174 "2016-03-04T04:11:54Z")

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> [@ScottRP](#):
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> I try to be a kind, caring, loving, humble, considerate person.
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> I would like to share a miracle with you. Once a drank from the cup of a person who had hepatitis C and bleeding gums. I had contracted jaundice(a yellowing of skin) and tested positive for it twice. I cried out to Jesus. Today, my test results come back as if I never had it in the first place.

Then you should be able to show us dated before and after test results, right?

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/175 "2016-03-04T04:12:15Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> This is the most despicable viewpoint of many organized religions that there is. Tell people that they are bad. Tell them that everything that makes them human is bad. Tell them that simply by existing–simply by the act of being born!–they are bad.
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> It disgusts me.

Bravo!!!

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/176 "2016-03-04T04:45:24Z")

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> [@ScottRP](#):
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> I have witnessed that it is the human condition that we are evil and wicked without God in the afterlife.

OK, fair enough – if you can answer my other question: _what is “evil”?_ Seriously, without framing it in the context of God, can you give a reasonable, objective definition of “_wicked and evil_” that we can all understand? Because, from what I have observed, “good” and “evil” are highly subjective, and when you add God into the mix, discerning the difference becomes even more problematic.

> [@ScottRP](#):
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> Without God, the soul is in ruins and of no value or worth.

I seem to have one of those soul things. It is what it is. I am not convinced that it can possibly be of any “_value or worth_” to me or to anyone else. It just is. I see, for instance, the preacher, whose soul by your measure, in the care of the Savior, must be of some or great value; I see him sharing the teachings of the Savior – at least as he understands them; and I see him go into the evening shadows to bugger young boys. There is a dichotomy that gives me pause when I give consideration to the “_value or worth_” that salvation bestows. Why should I believe that the soul thing ought to be any more than what it is?

> [@ScottRP](#):
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> Romans 10:9-10. that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made onto to salvation.

Red is for the words of Jesus. Please avoid elevating the words of Saul of Tarsus above where they ought to be.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/177 "2016-03-04T04:54:57Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> I saw David Copperfield fly. And predict the future! Plus he walked through a wall, and even appeared out of thin air on a motorcycle! Right there in the audience with me!

I saw the motorcycle one as well. Around 1990. Shameless brag moment. I did see when David switched with the body double for the trick. **Open spoilers** so don’t pit me. It was after he had put on the full face helmet with dark glass and heavy gloves. He went behind a curtain but kept the glove and arm in full sight sight except for one brief period where the exchange happened.

> [@umop\_ap\_sdn](#):
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> Okay, then the son of this God character happens to look like the inhabitants of a tiny planet in the universe? A universe which could easily have countless inhabited planets. Are there other sons and daughters of this God for all the other planets? Are there other gods? Other heavens and hells?
> 
> What about my question about whether Christianity is correct worldwide, or only in a small piece of the earth around the vicinity of the Middle East. If it’s worldwide, or universe-wide, why is there no mention of other inhabited physical localities (earthly or otherwise) in the scripture?

How does God handle evolution? At what point in evolution did humans get souls?

Not surprisingly, the Bible strongly reflects the philosophy of the West rather than the philosophies of the East. Did Western people develop in a more god-like environment or did the specific teachings simply reflect that of the society where the book was written?

Other questions. How does God sort out mental illness and emotional disorders?

If your brand of God pro-gay or anti-gay? How can following Him know who we are supposed to shun?

> [@Rhodes](#):
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> Not quite. In LDS theology, their non-Mormon ancestors are in “Spirit Prison”, which translates better as “purgatory” than “hell” (although LDS scripture calls it “hell”, it has little in common with mainstream Christian hell). Dead Mormons visit Spirit Prison to preach the LDS gospel, and if a prisoner converts he awaits baptism. Having no physical body to dunk, he waits for a proxy baptism performed by the living.

> [@ScottRP](#):
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> Demons make errors concerning the bible. And God and the angels do not.

The various translations of the bible have countless translation errors. Were they inspired by demons?

> [@Frank](#):
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> This is the most despicable viewpoint of many organized religions that there is. Tell people that they are bad. Tell them that everything that makes them human is bad. Tell them that simply by existing–simply by the act of being born!–they are bad.
> 
> It disgusts me.

There is a high rate of suicide among Mormon LGBT youth because of this message. It disgusts me as well.

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**Author:** ![ScottRP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ScottRP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScottRP)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/178 "2016-03-04T07:36:26Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> This is the most despicable viewpoint of many organized religions that there is. Tell people that they are bad. Tell them that everything that makes them human is bad. Tell them that simply by existing–simply by the act of being born!–they are bad.
> 
> It disgusts me.

It is the truth. I have witnessed it myself. Without God, we are the devil in the afterlife and we are better off had we not been born.

Mathew 26:24. “The Son of Man indeed goes just as it is written of Him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been good for that man if he had not been born.”

Hence, the value of salvation is greater than the sum our lives.

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**Author:** ![ScottRP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ScottRP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScottRP)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/179 "2016-03-04T07:41:55Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> Oh good, our souls aren’t bound for an eternity in Hell.

If you are so lucky to find someone who will offer up atonement for you. You stand better odds at winning the lottery. I suggest you have faith in Christ during your lifetime.

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**Author:** ![ScottRP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ScottRP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScottRP)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-amazing-encounters-with-jesus-christ/747774/180 "2016-03-04T07:47:06Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Then you should be able to show us dated before and after test results, right?

I could, but I would have to get them from the doctor. And considering that this is not a book that I am writing, I choose not to go through all the trouble.

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