# My Answer To Second Stone's Reply To My Alleged Pit. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715 "2010-10-10T19:55:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715/61 "2010-10-12T17:57:56Z")
Eh. I’m not a communist and not a socialist, but to simply toss out Imperialism because it was written by Lenin is like tossing out The Discourses on Livy or The Prince because they were written by Machiavelli. Stupid. Lenin effectively interpreted what was going on in a way that was useful and showed the injustice of the matter. That he was a right son of a bitch himself is irrelevant, and the baby should not be thrown out with the bathwater. Part of the problem is that the modern imperialists, the globalists want the baby thrown out and to be immune from criticism of Lenin’s type. So they smear everybody referring to it as a commie. I have not read Das Capital, but I am informed that it is the first thorough analysis of capitalism and necessary from a historical perspective for understanding historic economic theory. The fact that it is so long and connected with Marx makes it anathema. But lets remember that Adam Smith heavily criticized the immoral nature of greedy capitalism too and earlier. But that is also glossed over when it is taught. Capitalism unchecked is greedy and immoral and very destructive, just like any other “pure” doctrine. Seven posts is a long time to hang in for me unless it is just after midnight, personal and completely stupid. Then I’ll hang it until I look positively insane. Or so I have noticed the next morning. Ya can’t fix stupid. Particularly willfully stupid. I’m pretty sure I’ll never read Marx, it’s just too long. But Imperialism is well worth the time it took. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715/62 "2010-10-12T17:59:59Z")
Since zombies are allowed why not just bump the original thread or start a new one with a better title? I ask you seriously, is this a pitting because he dropped out of that thread? ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715/63 "2010-10-12T18:03:22Z")
Oh my god. Is \*that \*what these asinine pit threads are about? Why did it take you so long to get to the flippin’ point? **Miller** , can you close this thread for irritating me? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715/64 "2010-10-12T18:03:26Z")
> [@Darth\_Nader](#): > > At this point, how could it make things worse? …and things get worse. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715/65 "2010-10-12T18:04:31Z")
> [@adhay](#): > > So, why do you forsake me now? Because you Pitted him, you ignorant buffoon! Remember this thread ([“Pitting Second Stone and Stranger On A Train”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=581206)), where your OP consisted of nothing but a link to this thread ([“Why Was This Thread Closed?”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13005563)) (which neither Second Stone nor Stranger On A Train posted to), where the OP consisted of nothing but a link to this thread ([“BrEkers, Tell Me All About G\*.”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=580957)) (in which neither Second Stone nor Stranger On A Train posted either)? Stop eating the paint chips and go take a nap. Also: “Alleged Pit”? You started a Pit thread with Second Stone’s name in the thread title! How the hell is that “alleged”? ---
**Author:** ![adhay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@adhay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhay)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715/66 "2010-10-12T18:11:32Z")
First, thanks **Second Stone**. You still have your keel. > [@PlainJain](#): > > Since zombies are allowed why not just bump the original thread or start a new one with a better title? I ask you seriously, is this a pitting because he dropped out of that thread? No. I was just getting on the same page with him and providing a context for my next post which is coming soon. Patience. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715/67 "2010-10-12T18:17:08Z")
You’re seriously still angry about a brief argument from months ago? Dude…you are batshit insane. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715/68 "2010-10-12T18:25:10Z")
> [@adhay](#): > > First, thanks **Second Stone**. You still have your keel. > > > [@PlainJain](#): > > > > Since zombies are allowed why not just bump the original thread or start a new one with a better title? I ask you seriously, is this a pitting because he dropped out of that thread? > > No. I was just getting on the same page with him and providing a context for my next post which is coming soon. Patience. So half way through the second page you’ve suggested that the real pitting may be coming soon? You don’t really understand how this works do you? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715/69 "2010-10-12T18:40:11Z")
Yes, he’s a Microsoft engineer. When he Pits someone it is incoherent from 1985 until 2003, whereupon it just starts to coalesce. By 2011 he is ready to eat Apple’s lunch. But seriously, I am being pitted for agreeing with him. Most everyone else, who thinks that Imperialism was a commie waste of trees (without every having read the short pamphlet) had better start quaking in their Doc Martins. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715/70 "2010-10-12T18:42:59Z")
> [@adhay](#): > > No. I was just getting on the same page with him and providing a context for my next post which is coming soon. Patience. This post of mine is about providing a framework for setting up the initial phase of the outline for the context of my next post, which will be forthcoming sometime in the next year. Wait for it. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715/71 "2010-10-12T18:58:10Z")
This post is a wry, sarcastic comment about how meta so many other posters have made this thread. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715/72 "2010-10-12T19:08:42Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > This post is a wry, sarcastic comment about how meta so many other posters have made this thread. Meta does not mean “drunken”. ---
**Author:** ![adhay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@adhay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhay)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715/73 "2010-10-12T19:31:29Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > Yes, he’s a Microsoft engineer. When he Pits someone it is incoherent from 1985 until 2003, whereupon it just starts to coalesce. By 2011 he is ready to eat Apple’s lunch. 🙂 Actually, it was in 2005 when I retired with broadband that it really started coming together. When I came across Imperialism in 5/10, I started setting the table for Apple, the insane idea that our problems can be reduced by partisan debate as to which administration is “responsible” for them. The real question is WHAT is responsible for installing any administration. It has never been We The People. > [@](#): > > But seriously, I am being pitted for agreeing with him. Actually, I’m “pitting” you for not getting out of your foxhole or wherever you retreated to after your first engagement. My REAL Pit below. In retrospect, this might well have started with a PM to you, but then it wouldn’t have started, would it? Consider yourself publicly flushed. > [@](#): > > Most everyone else, who thinks that Imperialism was a commie waste of trees (without every having read the short pamphlet) had better start quaking in their Doc Martins. Don’t try to ride out a 10+ in oversize Crocs. Alrighty, then. I will continue. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715/74 "2010-10-12T19:52:54Z")
> [@adhay](#): > > Alrighty, then. > > I will continue. Cool. Maybe in another week and a half or so, somebody will figure out what the hell you’re babbling about. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715/75 "2010-10-12T19:59:17Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > > [@adhay](#): > > > > Alrighty, then. > > > > I will continue. > > Cool. Maybe in another week and a half or so, somebody will figure out what the hell you’re babbling about. Optimistic much? ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715/76 "2010-10-12T20:24:45Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > Meta does not mean “drunken”. Aww, please? ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715/77 "2010-10-12T20:44:01Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > > [@adhay](#): > > > > Alrighty, then. > > > > I will continue. > > Cool. Maybe in another week and a half or so, somebody will figure out what the hell you’re babbling about. I don’t know if the board software will be able to handle the sheer number of threads that will need to be started to get to that point. I’m off to compose my magnum opus wherein I berate that small lump of green putty I found in my left armpit one midsummer’s morn, because it failed to grow into a turnip bush when I planted it. Patience, patience… ---
**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715/78 "2010-10-12T20:51:01Z")
I’m planning to pit one of you soon… Just be ready! ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715/79 "2010-10-12T20:53:59Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > I’m off to compose my magnum opus wherein I berate that small lump of green putty I found in my left armpit one midsummer’s morn, Don’t. It’s been done already. By a girl, even. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715/80 "2010-10-12T21:28:09Z")
This is the greatest thread I have ever seen. Adhay, you are a genius, and I want you to run for Boss Hog. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-answer-to-second-stones-reply-to-my-alleged-pit/556715.md?page=5)