# My apology

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-apology/309723>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 24, 2005, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-apology/309723 "2005-06-24T20:22:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-apology/309723/21 "2005-06-24T21:41:14Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> The warning is as much based on your posts in the Gitmo threads as it is your admitted motivation for posting them. They already read like borderline trolling _before_ you came here and stated that you were in fact misrepresenting your own opinions to get a rise out of people, so now it’s pretty much a no-brainer. You stated flat out that you were trolling in those threads. I can’t ignore that just because you were nice enough to admit it.
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> I appreciate your honesty, but honesty does not automatically confer absolution. It’s just a warning. Learn from it, debate more honestly from now on, and everyone wins.

You’re also going to find that people will remember your trollish behavior and cut you less slack henceforth than they would other Dopers who haven’t estabished that sort of pattern. I know my first reaction to seeing your username, even after this apology, is negative given what I’ve seen of you in the Gitmo thread. Whatever you post is going to be read in light of that.

Yes, you can overcome that, in time, but you’ll have to do one hell of a lot of other-cheek-turning for quite a while to judge by what I’ve seen other folks go through.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-apology/309723/22 "2005-06-24T21:46:47Z")

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> [@laina\_f](#):
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> So are you still claiming to be [the most famous Doper?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=284668)

Hmmmm, his confession of trolling **does** fit in with the Jayson Blair theory… :dubious:

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**Author:** ![GLWasteful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f05b48/32.png) [@GLWasteful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GLWasteful)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-apology/309723/23 "2005-06-24T21:47:24Z")

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Well, I’ve been gone, and have missed much, seemingly. However, this:

> [@newcrasher](#):
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> So I imagine Jesus saying to me “Love each other like _this_. Do it as I showed you.” And I live my life as I do, and at some point turn to Jesus and ask, “Like this? Am I getting it right?” And I imagine the dissappointment on His face as He shakes His head.

Is making me bite the insides of my cheeks to avoid laughing aloud.

Waste

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-apology/309723/24 "2005-06-24T22:10:56Z")

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there’s a Gitmo thread here?

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-apology/309723/25 "2005-06-24T22:15:50Z")

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> [@wring](#):
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> there’s a Gitmo thread here?

I can’t tell if you’re joking. In case you aren’t, the Gitmo threads being referred to are [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=322186) and [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=321477).

If you are, then :smack:

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-apology/309723/26 "2005-06-24T22:17:25Z")

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There used to be. Then it became an O’Reilly thread. You don’t want to go there. You’ll just get pissed off.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-apology/309723/27 "2005-06-24T22:19:50Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> I can’t tell if you’re joking. In case you aren’t, the Gitmo threads being referred to are [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=322186) and [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=321477).
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> If you are, then :smack:

While you’re helping, could you find me a thread bashing Bush, a thread with flirting, and a thread about evolution. Thanks ever so much.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-apology/309723/28 "2005-06-24T22:21:05Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> While you’re helping, could you find me a thread bashing Bush, a thread with flirting, and a thread about evolution. Thanks ever so much.

No problem! Can I get you some coffee, maybe a pillow?

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-apology/309723/29 "2005-06-24T22:26:54Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The problem with hiring a bunch of Goody Two Shoes and Mr Spocks for mods is that they don’t understand getting a bit irrationally exuberant and how you can do it without realizing you are.

I take issue with this characterization. I am frequently exuberant and I point to any of my numerous irrationally hostile posts to support my contention.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-apology/309723/30 "2005-06-24T22:27:53Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> I can’t tell if you’re joking. In case you aren’t, the Gitmo threads being referred to are [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=322186) and [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=321477).
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> If you are, then :smack:

don’t hurt yourself with those :smack: :smack:

😃  
(actually, I shouldn’t tease, you’ve been ever so kind to fix my coding mistakes w/o even asking - thanks!)

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-apology/309723/31 "2005-06-24T22:29:28Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> While you’re helping, could you find me a thread bashing Bush, a thread with flirting, and a thread about evolution. Thanks ever so much.

How 'bout a Bush bashing thread that evolved into a flirt thread?

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-apology/309723/32 "2005-06-24T23:08:11Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> How 'bout a Bush bashing thread that evolved into a flirt thread?

Closed.

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-apology/309723/33 "2005-06-24T23:09:21Z")

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There goes my chance for a date.

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-apology/309723/34 "2005-06-24T23:10:18Z")

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I hear Bush is married, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-apology/309723/35 "2005-06-24T23:11:59Z")

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No, tell me it’s not true!

But really, I was hoping to date a bush basher, not bush. 😃

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-apology/309723/36 "2005-06-24T23:20:39Z")

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> [@Scott Plaid](#):
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> No, tell me it’s not true!
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> But really, I was hoping to date a bush basher, not bush. 😃

I don’t know, remember the old saying: a bush in the hand is worth two birds with one stone. Or something.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-apology/309723/37 "2005-06-24T23:24:01Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> I don’t know, remember the old saying: a bush in the hand is worth two birds with one stone. Or something.

I think it was “a hand in the bush is worth two stoned birds”

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-apology/309723/38 "2005-06-24T23:25:55Z")

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I thought it was "If you have a hand in two bushs, youv’e got two stoned birds on your hands.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-apology/309723/39 "2005-06-24T23:45:30Z")

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> [@SkipMagic](#):
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> Closed.

Yeah, by [samclem](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=322674)

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-apology/309723/40 "2005-06-24T23:54:21Z")

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Only if you disasemble the birds…

I know not if the OP meant that Durbin hurled insults and inflamed responses with his language or was just referrring to the shit storm that occurred afterwards. I merely post here to say that the man posited a question and a premise. So, if the OP meant that Durbin started this firestorm, I have to say that the OP has mis-characterized both the remarks and the Senator.

As for Christ–to each his own. I am not sure how the OP reconciles following Christ with torture in ME prisons etc, but that is between the OP and Christ. I can see the temptation to tell the thought process, but was it necessary?  
I am slowing down in this heat–I couldn’t figure out who the long tongued guy was supposed to be. My apologies, Giraffey (may I call you Giraffey?) 🙂 (did I ever tell you that I LIKE giraffes?)

Heh.

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