# My Beer Initiation...am I insane?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-beer-initiation-am-i-insane/195035>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [August 13, 2003, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-beer-initiation-am-i-insane/195035 "2003-08-13T23:43:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Gotterfunken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/58956e/32.png) [@Gotterfunken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gotterfunken)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2003, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-beer-initiation-am-i-insane/195035/41 "2003-08-15T16:08:09Z")

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I thought pilsners were a type of lager.

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**Author:** ![krisolov](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/krisolov/32/3724_2.png) [@krisolov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/krisolov)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2003, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-beer-initiation-am-i-insane/195035/42 "2003-08-15T16:18:41Z")

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Another victim of car bombs here. Just let me say, they’re called that for a reason. I remember saying “What, these aren’t nuthin’…” and the next thing I remember is waking up with the mother of all hangovers. Be afraid.  
Another drink I’m partial to in the winter is a half and half with hard cider and Guinness. Yum.

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**Author:** ![My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f14d63/32.png) [@My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/My_Darn_Snake_Legs)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2003, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-beer-initiation-am-i-insane/195035/43 "2003-08-15T16:35:20Z")

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**kris** , that’s what I’m talking about! It’s called a Snakebite. 🆒

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2003, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-beer-initiation-am-i-insane/195035/44 "2003-08-15T17:13:36Z")

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Christ almighty.

Mixing Guinness. Bunch of fucking heathens that’s what you are 😉

Good old Arthur is spinning in his grave.

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**Author:** ![My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f14d63/32.png) [@My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/My_Darn_Snake_Legs)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2003, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-beer-initiation-am-i-insane/195035/45 "2003-08-15T17:25:11Z")

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Say what you like…but it tastes great 🙂

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**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2003, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-beer-initiation-am-i-insane/195035/46 "2003-08-15T17:34:07Z")

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Forget about the beer. Beer tastes like goat’s piss probably would.

Try a hard cider. Many bars have them now. Woodchuck is very good, particularly the Amber. Ace is another good one, and their Pear cider is excellent. There are a number of imports too, Woodpecker and Longbow being the primary ones.

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**Author:** ![Spiff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiff/32/9852_2.png) [@Spiff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiff)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2003, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-beer-initiation-am-i-insane/195035/47 "2003-08-15T18:20:52Z")

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BTW, I hope you all know that the Guiness that’s sent over to the States is made with a different formula. The Irish get one version, the Merkins get another.

That’s why I prefer Beamish to Guinness. ‘Tis the real thing, and if you can find it on tap here in the States, it’s the same as it is in Ireland, save for a bit o’ extra aging due to the boat ride over the pond.

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**Author:** ![My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f14d63/32.png) [@My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/My_Darn_Snake_Legs)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2003, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-beer-initiation-am-i-insane/195035/48 "2003-08-15T18:35:08Z")

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Really? What’s the difference?

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**Author:** ![beergeek279](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ea924/32.png) [@beergeek279](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beergeek279)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2003, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-beer-initiation-am-i-insane/195035/49 "2003-08-15T21:11:42Z")

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Personally, I don’t care as much for the draft Guinness, because the nitrogen pour kills the wonderfully rich roasted malt flavor; the Extra Stout is much better (then again, my favorite stouts are Imperial Stouts, which have very little in common with Guinness!)

As for whether you’d personally like Guinness, I couldn’t say. One thing I’ve learned is that beer tastes can be very subjective, and it’s impossible to predict whether someone would like a beer or not. From the beers you’ve tried, I wouldn’t say Harp would be a good choice since it’s not much different from the beers you’ve already tried; but I’d say give the Guinness a try :). At worst, you won’t like it…big deal; at best, you could find a tremendous treat.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2003, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-beer-initiation-am-i-insane/195035/50 "2003-08-15T21:42:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by fnord1966 \*  
> \*\*People who poo-poo Guinness are probably the same people who will sit back scratch their crotch and pound a twelver of keystone ice. \*\*

No, people who poo-poo Guinness are probably the same people who have intestinal disorders that make them poop out undigested liquids.

I suppose scratching your crotch is about as good as you’ll get when your GI tract has turned into a slip-n-slide.

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**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2003, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-beer-initiation-am-i-insane/195035/51 "2003-08-20T15:03:46Z")

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Wow. Such wonderful and varied advice! First I want to apologize for spelling Guinness incorrectly in the OP. To answer a few questions:

My drink of choice to this point has been Bailey’s on the rocks, but they give you so little and it costs so much. I like the idea of the carbomb, but I’m betting it costs more than just a Guinness.

I like Bass (or should I say I don’t dislike it as much as the others) so a Black and Tan might work.

Now for the update: Codepoet’s trip out of town got cancelled, so we went out Sunday, and I wimped. I ordered a Harp instead, and actually ordered a second half-pint. But now that I have all this new information, next time Guinness! Unless the bartender laughs at me again.

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2003, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-beer-initiation-am-i-insane/195035/52 "2003-08-20T16:56:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by js\_africanus \*  
> \*\*Um, aren’t most American macro-brews pilsners? \*\*

Pilsner is a style of Lager. Some of the American Light Lagers (Miller Lite for example) claim to be a Pils but they are so far removed from a true Pils (like Pilsner Urquell) that to call them a Pilsner is an insult to I.C. Jacobsen. Rice or corn in beer is an abomination.

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**Author:** ![whatami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/85f322/32.png) [@whatami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whatami)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2003, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-beer-initiation-am-i-insane/195035/53 "2003-08-20T19:27:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Derleth \*  
> \*\*No, people who poo-poo Guinness are probably the same people who have intestinal disorders that make them poop out undigested liquids.
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> I suppose scratching your crotch is about as good as you’ll get when your GI tract has turned into a slip-n-slide. \*\*

No, people who poo-poo Guinness are probably the same people that don’t like it. There’s no reason to make it sound like only those who like the flavor of Guinness can really appreciate beer.

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**Author:** ![whatami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/85f322/32.png) [@whatami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whatami)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2003, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-beer-initiation-am-i-insane/195035/54 "2003-08-20T19:35:25Z")

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sigh… of course I just read the bottom of **fnord1966’s** post and now I feel like an ass…

::cheers::

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**Author:** ![Daowajan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Daowajan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daowajan)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2003, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-beer-initiation-am-i-insane/195035/55 "2003-08-21T00:06:09Z")

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Try the Guinness. Even if you think it’s what evil tastes like, at least you tried it. And there’s no predicting personal preference when it comes to food and drink.

The first drink I ever had was a Guinness, and it’s still my favorite. A lot of the lighter beers taste like I’m supposed to get a second cup and bring it back in half an hour. 😃

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