# My Big Fat Obnoxious Fiance

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 20, 2004, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-big-fat-obnoxious-fiance/225280 "2004-01-20T03:52:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-big-fat-obnoxious-fiance/225280/1 "2004-01-20T03:52:34Z")

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Did anyone watch this show? I had to miss American Idol because my daughter was watching new Spongebob episodes on Nickelodeon but I tuned in MBFOF later on and I thought it was funny as hell. Some people might think it’s mean but I took an instant dislike to the “Bride” on the show. I found her to be shallow, self-absorbed, judgemental and greedy so I was happy to see her get tortured for an hour. I can’t wait to see her family’s reaction. Some of the previews seem to promise tears and rage in future episodes. Call me sadistic but I love to see these fame-chasing reality show contestants being degraded for my amusement.

Am I alone?

Am I an asshole?

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**Author:** ![MamaHen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c89c15/32.png) [@MamaHen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MamaHen)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-big-fat-obnoxious-fiance/225280/2 "2004-01-20T04:31:06Z")

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You are not alone. I watched it tonight and I was shocked. I was disgusted listening to her talk about how she was better than he was when she signed on to do a tv show that she knew nothing about. Oh yeah, she should be the last person to talk. I thought he was great, he made me laugh several times but I wanted to slap her.

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**Author:** ![SonOfArizona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SonOfArizona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SonOfArizona)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-big-fat-obnoxious-fiance/225280/3 "2004-01-20T06:19:00Z")

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I saw this tonight also, and like the previous two posters, I thought it was absolutely hilarious. I thought it was really ironic how she was nervous in the beginning, thinking it would be hard to convince her family, when she thought she was being set up with one of the good looking bachelors. She must have had quite a rush when she saw who she really was being set up with.

The guy, I forget his name… he truly had some hilarious lines. I was laughing out loud throughout the entire show. “Think about baseball, think about baseball”… “One time my sister chased me down the street with a butcher knife”…

i think the girl, Randi, put it perfectly. Hes like a cartoon character and its pretty hysterical to watch. And to see his relatively sophisticated side behind the set contrasted against his bumbling portrayal of a loser

Yeah the show is pretty stupid overall, I will admit. But its mindless entertainment that I can really laugh at. I haven’t really watched any other reality show since the very beginning of this television revolution, but this one kind of grabbed my attention, and Im glad I watched it and I’ll be tuning in next week.

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**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-big-fat-obnoxious-fiance/225280/4 "2004-01-20T06:32:34Z")

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Hey, I’ve seen that guy before, in that Swanson’s Hungry Man commercial. He’s the one who ate a watercress tea sandwich for lunch. Doesn’t she ever watch TV? I think I’ve seen it outside ESPN. 🙂

Gonna be interesting to see how she explains to her family & friends why there’s a camera crew following them around everywhere…

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-big-fat-obnoxious-fiance/225280/5 "2004-01-20T07:54:32Z")

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I liked it. Take that, snob girl!!!

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**Author:** ![Necro\_Romancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@Necro\_Romancer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Necro_Romancer)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-big-fat-obnoxious-fiance/225280/6 "2004-01-20T08:47:48Z")

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> [@KGS](#):
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> Gonna be interesting to see how she explains to her family & friends why there’s a camera crew following them around everywhere…

I’ve no real clue myself but I did see a future scene of her telling her family that they would be married on television…so filming the turmoil and shame this causes would only be natural. Especially if they knew the network was Fox.

I loved the show once the groom was introduced. I think he has a really great personality. This should make for a fun show. 🙂

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**Author:** ![UselessGit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/74df32/32.png) [@UselessGit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UselessGit)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-big-fat-obnoxious-fiance/225280/7 "2004-01-20T11:49:36Z")

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My Big Fat Obnoxious Fiance? :dubious:

It seems that after _Idol_ and, lest we forget, _Survivor_ and _Fear Factor_ TV has hit a new low.

May God show us forgiveness, for future generations will not.

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**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-big-fat-obnoxious-fiance/225280/8 "2004-01-20T12:49:10Z")

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> [@KGS](#):
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> Hey, I’ve seen that guy before, in that Swanson’s Hungry Man commercial. He’s the one who ate a watercress tea sandwich for lunch. Doesn’t she ever watch TV? I think I’ve seen it outside ESPN. 🙂

Oh, that’s who he is! :smack: 😛

Anyway, I missed the very beginning… _American Idol_ was running over and I switched to _Raymond_. I thought maybe I had the wrong night when it wasn’t coming on right at 9:00.

Since I missed the beginning: What exactly is the set-up? How are they supposed to have met, and why are they getting married so soon and on TV? Why are they living in that mansion?

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**Author:** ![Lesbia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Lesbia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lesbia)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-big-fat-obnoxious-fiance/225280/9 "2004-01-20T13:16:15Z")

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I wonder how they knew Randi would be a shallow snob?

Before she had even had one private conversation with Steve, she said that it was going to be hard to fool her family since “they know I don’t date guys like Steve.” That one sentence removed all sympathy I had for this girl.

The producers would never have chosen me for this show because when they asked me what my family would think, I’d be like: “My family knows better than to interfere in my personal decisions.”

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-big-fat-obnoxious-fiance/225280/10 "2004-01-20T14:14:13Z")

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> [@BiblioCat](#):
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> Oh, that’s who he is! :smack: 😛
> 
> Anyway, I missed the very beginning… _American Idol_ was running over and I switched to _Raymond_. I thought maybe I had the wrong night when it wasn’t coming on right at 9:00.
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> Since I missed the beginning: What exactly is the set-up? How are they supposed to have met, and why are they getting married so soon and on TV? Why are they living in that mansion?

They told her that the premise of the show was that she had to convince her family that she had met a guy on another reality show and gotten engaged. They told her that if she can get her family to attend the wedding and sit hrough the ceremony she’ll win a half million dollars. At first they showed her twelve hunky guys and told her to pick three. Then they told her that her choices were meaningless and they trotted out “Steve” who is an actor pretending to be just a real guy chosen for this reality show. She thinks they’re in it to gether to split a million bucks but his goal is basically to be as obnoxious as possible and drive her nuts.

The look on her face when she first saw him was pretty great, and like **Lesbia** said, she claimed that her family knew she would never date “someone like Steve” when his looks were literally all that she knew about him.

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**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-big-fat-obnoxious-fiance/225280/11 "2004-01-20T14:17:30Z")

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This show is a comedy goldmine. My bf and I were laughing the entire time. My favorite part was when Randi was trying to have her private interview and Steve was outside yelling for her. Genius.

Steve rules.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-big-fat-obnoxious-fiance/225280/12 "2004-01-20T15:59:02Z")

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First Klass TV! We have a villain who doesn’t know she’s the villain. She’s dumb in so many ways! My favorite way is how, though there’s half a million bucks on the line for her and her family, she isn’t making the slightest effort to make it work. She hasn’t said, “The only way my family is buying this is if I make it seem real and the only way I can do THAT is if I get used to acting like he’s really my fiance before he meets them.” Fox wins twice: they get a major biatch to draw in the viewers and there is little chance they will have to pay her. Instead she gets to stand in for all of the Beautiful People who dumped on people who didn’t meet their lofty standards. Us fat and obnoxious folks can watch her get a comeuppance beyond what she, as an individual, may deserve because it is being broadcast on network TV. But I’d better stop because I’m starting to sympathize with her. ☹

Steve, OTOH, will get a real series out of this. Maybe not the lead but he has a long career of obnoxious buddies ahead of him.

I can’t wait to meet his “family.” I haven’t seen them on any of the ads but it is totally unlike Fox to not telegraph all the good stuff long before a series airs.

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-big-fat-obnoxious-fiance/225280/13 "2004-01-20T16:15:31Z")

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I’m wary now-a-days of total setup, that is Randi, Steve, the family, everybody “in on it”.

Saying that, this show rocks. Steve is an excellent actor. I see good things (movies) in his future. I agree with what most of the above posters have said.

I do not like the host however. She looks like she belongs in a bad porn.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-big-fat-obnoxious-fiance/225280/14 "2004-01-20T17:23:35Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> My favorite way is how, though there’s half a million bucks on the line for her and her family, she isn’t making the slightest effort to make it work. She hasn’t said, “The only way my family is buying this is if I make it seem real and the only way I can do THAT is if I get used to acting like he’s really my fiance before he meets them.”

This is a good point. All she’s done is talked about what _he_ needs to do. She seems to think that she’s just perfect the way she is and that it’s his job to conform to her standards…of course there can’t be any semblance of real affection between them, though. The teasers for next week showed her getting the ass because he dared to kiss her in front of her friend. It doesn’t seem to occur to her that if she really wants to fool people she’s going to have to act like she’s in love with this guy.

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-big-fat-obnoxious-fiance/225280/15 "2004-01-20T17:36:36Z")

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So at what point does “marriage” gain “sanctity”? I’m guessing engagement doesn’t have any sanctity to protect. Silly me, I always thought the engagement itself was the first offical step to getting married and, as such, was a part of the sacredness of the whole relationship.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-big-fat-obnoxious-fiance/225280/16 "2004-01-20T17:47:38Z")

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I’m afraid that the closest you will get to “sanctity” on Fox is “sanctimonious” over at Fox News.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-big-fat-obnoxious-fiance/225280/17 "2004-01-20T21:37:07Z")

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Sorry, I can only do one Reality Show at a time and I’m already invested in Average Joe II. I actaully came into CS to see if anyone had started a thread about that show, but apparantly not. I think it’s pretty funny, though.

This one sounds good. I did see the commercials advertising it where the guys says something to the Dad like 'I can’t wait to get your daughter in the sack".

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2004, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-big-fat-obnoxious-fiance/225280/18 "2004-01-20T22:49:57Z")

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> [@Homebrew](#):
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> So at what point does “marriage” gain “sanctity”? I’m guessing engagement doesn’t have any sanctity to protect. Silly me, I always thought the engagement itself was the first offical step to getting married and, as such, was a part of the sacredness of the whole relationship.

You should just look at this show as it is: More ammunition the next time some conserva-nut starts blathering on about how marriage must be protected from the gays. Then punctuate it with saying it is aired by Fox, the conserva-nut’s best friend! And thank Britany Spears, too, that tart finally did something useful!

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-big-fat-obnoxious-fiance/225280/19 "2004-01-21T01:23:48Z")

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> [@Tars Tarkas](#):
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> You should just look at this show as it is: More ammunition the next time some conserva-nut starts blathering on about how marriage must be protected from the gays. Then punctuate it with saying it is aired by Fox, the conserva-nut’s best friend! And thank Britany Spears, too, that tart finally did something useful!

More likely it should be used against the whacko-lefties who keep harping that FOX is inextricably in league with the evil George Bush to push a radical relgious conservatism on the American public. 🙂

FOX is out there to make money like all the other networks.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-big-fat-obnoxious-fiance/225280/20 "2004-01-21T17:51:01Z")

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> [@KGS](#):
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> Hey, I’ve seen that guy before, in that Swanson’s Hungry Man commercial.

_That’s_ where I know him from! :smack:

> [@Bruce\_Daddy](#):
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> I do not like the host however. She looks like she belongs in a bad porn.

_That’s_ where I know her from! :smack:

😃

Anyway…spot on, **dropzone**. Randi is putting zero effort into being convincing here. I look at it this way – she basically needs to get into playing a character, namely “Randi In Love”. When they were walking to the spa, why couldn’t she have at least been holding hands with the guy? She’s showing a value system based on what is appropriate for a couple that just met. That’s not going to cut it in this situation. If she wants a shot at this, she needs to pull that value system out of her ass and start doing some major faking.

In the end, I can’t see her pulling it off. She seems way too shallow to make this work. The impression she puts out is that when it comes to relationships, her attitude is _“I am perfect, and men will have to adapt to mesh with my perfection”_. Steve is going to have a blast making life a living hell for her and her family, and I’ll love every minute of it. 🙂 As an aside, I’m wondering what he gets out of it? Obviously he’s getting paid for this acting job, but if the wedding doesn’t go off, I wonder if _he_ then gets all the cash?

One other thing – I’m holding on to hope that Fox was playing with the editing to make things appear different than they are, but it seems to be they gave away waaay too much in the intro by showing what appeared to be the father happily jumping up at the “does anyone object” part of the wedding ceremony. According to the rules, any objection like this would cause her to lose the money. It’s things like that which make me change the channel whenever I hear “stay tuned for scenes from our next episode”. Stop giving the whole damn show away!

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