# My boycott against Ireland

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boycott-against-ireland/171497>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 27, 2003, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boycott-against-ireland/171497 "2003-04-27T15:56:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boycott-against-ireland/171497/81 "2003-05-01T21:26:02Z")

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Aro, if you have any evidence that the IRA has anything to do with the “problems” in Colombia, I’m sure the Colombian prosecutors would like to see it. God knows _they_ don’t seem to have any.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boycott-against-ireland/171497/82 "2003-05-01T22:22:21Z")

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THAT’s Ian Paisley?

EEEEWWW!!!

Oh, but for the days of [Michael Collins](http://ireland.iol.ie/%7Eobrienc/frames.htm)!

_walks away whistling “Foggy Dew”_

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**Author:** ![T.Slothrop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3e96dc/32.png) [@T.Slothrop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T.Slothrop)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boycott-against-ireland/171497/83 "2003-05-01T23:07:24Z")

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Sorry Fretful,

_Orange_ is Irish. You’re gonna have to dye the dog’s front end too.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boycott-against-ireland/171497/84 "2003-05-02T00:37:27Z")

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Besides, the IRA did NOT start out as a terrorist organization.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boycott-against-ireland/171497/85 "2003-05-02T00:42:53Z")

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Oh, and I’d like to add that my Irish heritage on my dad’s side is part of the reason I still consider myself tied to Catholicism. I like John Shelby Spong and **Polycarp** kicks ass, but everytime I think about going Episcopal, I hear this little voice inside my head screaming about the “bloody Church of ENGLAND!!!”

(A stupid question, though-what exactly does “Erin Go Bragh” mean?)

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boycott-against-ireland/171497/86 "2003-05-02T01:27:55Z")

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> Sorry Fretful,
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> Orange is Irish. You’re gonna have to dye the dog’s front end too.

Well, I was going for an (admittedly rather clumsy) parody of this story, posted by **Gaudere** a while back:

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> The best (or worst, depending) story I have heard is of the couple who called their french poodle a “freedom poodle”. And just to reinforce their patriotism they dyed it with big red, white and blue stripes. However, they apparently forgot that the French flag is, guess what: big red, white and blue stripes. So they have turned their dog into a fluffy, four-legged French flag.

Though, come to think of it, that’s really the kind of story that parodies itself without further assistance, which is a good thing because Shame-on-You is STILL hiding under the bed. Harrumph. Man’s best friend, indeed.

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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boycott-against-ireland/171497/87 "2003-05-02T06:18:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*Besides, the IRA did NOT start out as a terrorist organization. \*\*

Guin, you’ve said this a few times, and I’m still not sure exactly what distinction you’re making.

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**Author:** ![Aro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b3f665/32.png) [@Aro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aro)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boycott-against-ireland/171497/88 "2003-05-02T07:14:57Z")

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Hiya **Ruadh** , haven’t heard from you in a while? What’s the craic?

I have a full and complete dossier of information on the Columbian incident which proves that…em…they have weapons of mass destruction and are prepared to use them.

Unfortunately, I can’t show it to anyone because it would compromise …er…well…national security. Or something.

You’ll just have to trust me.

😉

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boycott-against-ireland/171497/89 "2003-05-02T08:10:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by elfje \*  
> \*\*So forgive me my fury. I think it’s justified. \*\*

elfje, being scottish I really have no hat in this ring, but you can’t seriously think that Britain is at war with Ireland?

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boycott-against-ireland/171497/90 "2003-05-02T09:40:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> (A stupid question, though-what exactly does “Erin Go Bragh” mean?)

Ireland Forever IIRC

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**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boycott-against-ireland/171497/91 "2003-05-02T10:47:16Z")

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**yojimbo** : Now I may be totally wrong, but I think you’ll find that, in gaelic, the suffix “gh” means “without”.

So “Erin Go Bragh” is a call for Irish women to go topless.

Or something.

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**Author:** ![Iteki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/eada6e/32.png) [@Iteki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iteki)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boycott-against-ireland/171497/92 "2003-05-02T13:24:06Z")

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No, sorry Kal. Not for Irish women to go topless.  
Just for Erin to go topless. You know Erin? Was going out with Todd?  
FTR, I don’t think “Erin go bragh” means anything. I assume it is some sort of mad bastardisation of “Eireann go brea” or similar, whic would basically be “Lovely Ireland”. But then I am a product of the Irish education system, and can barely string two words together and am prolly talking crap.

Oh and Guin, whatever IRA might have “started as” (a discussion for another time and place) the means of the IRA that have been in action for the past 30 years or so have been entirely those of a paramilitary terrorist organisation. Please don’t have any romantic thoughts about “the boys at home”.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boycott-against-ireland/171497/93 "2003-05-02T13:36:27Z")

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I thought it meant Ireland Forever?

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boycott-against-ireland/171497/94 "2003-05-02T13:41:58Z")

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Please forgive the bullshit on this page I use it only as a cite.

[http://showcase.netins.net/web/magicman/erin.htm](http://showcase.netins.net/web/magicman/erin.htm)

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boycott-against-ireland/171497/95 "2003-05-02T13:49:36Z")

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Sorry, but that’s unforgiveable mate.

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**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boycott-against-ireland/171497/96 "2003-05-02T13:50:35Z")

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[Ignorant fella]

Hmm. Looking at that song, although the title seems to translate “Erin Go Bragh” as “Ireland Forever”, “Lovely Ireland” would make more sense in all but the final verse.

[/Ignorant fella]

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**Author:** ![Iteki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/eada6e/32.png) [@Iteki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iteki)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boycott-against-ireland/171497/97 "2003-05-02T14:01:21Z")

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breá [aidiacht den tríú díochlaonadh]  
álainn (bean bhreá; aimsir bhreá); an-sásúil (béile breá); déanta go maith (obair bhreá); ar staid mhaith (tá mé go breá anois); maith (d’éirigh go breá liom); aoibhinn (is breá an saol atá agaibh); maith mór (suim bhreá airgid); pléisiúrtha (duine breá le labhairt leis); taitneamhach (ba bhreá liom a bheith ann); (ag neartú le haidiacht eile) (breá mór, breá fairsing, breá bog anois!) (le híoróin) (rógaire breá; tá go breá agat!).  
**Ní fuaireamar** bragh

Bragh not found in other words.  
It means fine, beautiful, good etc

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boycott-against-ireland/171497/98 "2003-05-02T14:02:59Z")

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It is pretty bad isn’t it :o I don’t have a clue about Irish\* so I’m just going on memory.  
\*The only thing I know how to say is “Can I go to the toilet” as you had to ask in Irish but I can’t even write that as I don’t know how to spell what I say, in other words I’m a typical Dubiner.

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**Author:** ![Iteki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/eada6e/32.png) [@Iteki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iteki)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boycott-against-ireland/171497/99 "2003-05-02T14:10:24Z")

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Great scene in the film “The Matchmaker” where the romantic lead guy is under pressure to speak some irish in front of his american flirt. “An bfhuil cead agam dul go dti an leithras” pops out. She looks duely impressed. I nearly died laughing while mrsIteki looked on confused.

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boycott-against-ireland/171497/100 "2003-05-02T14:17:11Z")

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I’ve did exactly the same thing in Vermont and it worked 😃

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