# My break-up with Kyan (but I'm OK) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 5, 2004, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881 "2004-01-05T21:52:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2004, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881/21 "2004-01-06T17:15:57Z")
> [@](#): > > Sure he’s hot and all, but he strikes me as just a tad, well, shallow and probably boring to talk to–one can only fuck for so long, you know. I’m willing to take that risk. Nothing else really to add to this thread, but since **Eve** has popped in I’ll just note that I ran across a quote from her in _yet another_ book last night, Boze Hadleigh’s most recent iteration of _The Lavendar Screen_. Hadleigh quotes her zapping Greg Kinnear’s mean-spirited remarks about transsexuals when he hosted _Talk Soup_ (which is somewhat amusing since Hadleigh makes some odd remarks about transsexual characters in the book). ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2004, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881/22 "2004-01-06T17:30:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Otto \* > \*\*Boze Hadleigh’s most recent iteration of _The Lavendar Screen_. Hadleigh quotes her zapping Greg Kinnear’s mean-spirited remarks about transsexuals when he hosted _Talk Soup_ (which is somewhat amusing since Hadleigh makes some odd remarks about transsexual characters in the book). \*\* He must be quoting my letter to _Out_ magazine, the only time I’ve said anything about that in public. You means Boze has started doing actual _research?!_ As for your hubby . . . Maybe he was born “Edward Douglas Kyan?” ---
**Author:** ![istara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e79b87/32.png) [@istara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/istara)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2004, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881/23 "2004-01-06T18:47:02Z")
Talking of Queer as Folk, isn’t the main guy actually straight? (I mean the actor not the character). **fingers crossed…** ---
**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2004, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881/24 "2004-01-06T19:56:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by istara \* > \*\*Talking of Queer as Folk, isn’t the main guy actually straight? (I mean the actor not the character). > > **fingers crossed…** \*\* I assume you’re talking about Michael (Hal Sparks) who is, in fact, straight… or at least not out of the closet gay, anywho. Only three of the actors are gay: Peter Paige (Emmett), Robert Gant (Ben), and Randy Harrison (Justin). Everyone else is a big fat breeder :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2004, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881/25 "2004-01-06T20:01:34Z")
I assume she’s talking about Brian (Gale Harold). I can’t imagine anyone crossing their fingers for Hal Sparks. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2004, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881/26 "2004-01-06T20:06:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sampiro \* > \*\*True, but it was never confirmed by a 2/3 vote of the Senate. \*\* Now now, dibs does not require a 2/3 majority, only a simple majority. (But it also requires the consent of the President – and, given our current President’s party-line dislike of the gay community, I’ll betcha dollars to donut-holes that he’ll cast a veto.) ---
**Author:** ![istara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e79b87/32.png) [@istara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/istara)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2004, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881/27 "2004-01-06T20:12:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Homebrew \* > \*\*I assume she’s talking about Brian (Gale Harold). I can’t imagine anyone crossing their fingers for Hal Sparks. \*\* Yes. Brian 😉 Is Hal Sparks the guy who went out with the older doctor a while back, and they had some row about his toys in the doctor’s flat??? Yes, you’re right, fingers definitely very uncrossed for him. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2004, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881/28 "2004-01-06T20:13:41Z")
> [@](#): > > I assume she’s talking about Brian (Gale Harold). I can’t imagine anyone crossing their fingers for Hal Sparks. Hey now! Hal Sparks is darling! Not the brightest, but darling! I was under the impression he was married? But that Gale Harold (Brian) just won’t make a statement one way or the other. ---
**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2004, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881/29 "2004-01-06T21:00:04Z")
Gale Harold is a very interesting character to watch and read interviews about but I’d place bets on straight personally. One never knows, though. ---
**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2004, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881/30 "2004-01-06T21:24:13Z")
Gale Harold is a very interesting character to watch and read interviews about but I’d place bets on straight personally. One never knows, though. ---
**Author:** ![jeevwoman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@jeevwoman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jeevwoman)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881/31 "2004-01-07T16:15:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\*Is it true that his real first name is (gasp) Eddie? I read that somewhere, and my head almost exploded. Say it ain’t so. \*\* Well, crap. **jeevmon** and I were planning to name our hypothetical potential son Kyan. WTF? We have to name the kid Eddie now? \ (And no, this is in no way any kind of announcement. We were just talking about names.) This explains why ‘Kyan’ has not come up in any name meaning searches. Eddie! \ ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881/32 "2004-01-07T17:41:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eve \* > \*\*You means Boze has started doing actual _research?!_ > \*\* 1. What did Kinnear say about transexuals? 2. I read Boze’s book of interviews with gay celebs and was surprised at how frank some of them were. Later, a co-worker who was once the personal assistant of James Coco (and who was fully aware that he was gay, so this wasn’t a denial thing) claimed that the interview was doctored and sounded absolutely nothing like Coco in voice or in spirit. I’ve wondered if this is true or if any of the other interviews were doctored. (As memory serves, most if not all of the “interviews” were not printed until after the subject’s death.) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881/33 "2004-01-07T17:51:11Z")
Re: QUEER AS FOLK- Jack Wetherall, who plays Uncle Vic, is also openly gay. (Though 60ish, he’s primarily a Canadian theater actor and this is his first major TV work.) Gale Harold was at one point dating one of the two actresses who play the lesbian couple on the series, but I forget which one. There was a Larry King “interview” with the QaF cast that I swear consisted of Larry going round table (twice) and asking each cast member if they were gay or straight. At the time Robert Gant was not yet out and declined to say, but when later King identified him as straight he corrected him by saying “The jury’s still out- I haven’t commented on my personal life and don’t intend to.” The other guests were the usual “family values” folk and gay activists so basically it was a total waste of everybody’s time. (Gale Harold and Randy Harrison were making private jokes that had them both cracking up the entire time but when asked to share simply stated “You’d lose your primetime license”.) I’ve wondered about Fab Fillippo, who played Justin’s violinist lover Ethan; I haven’t read anything about him, but he’s fine either way. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881/34 "2004-01-07T17:51:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sampiro \* > \*\*1. What did Kinnear say about transexuals? > > 1. I read Boze’s book of interviews with gay celebs and was surprised at how frank some of them were. \*\* 1. Can’t remember verbatim, but even if the clip had _nothing to do_ with transsexuals, he would till make some snarky, eye-rolling slur. Pissed me off no end. 2. Boze’s “interview” books are pretty much accepted as having been entirely made-up. Give a look at the “readers’ comments” in [amazon.com](http://amazon.com). It’s a shame, as Boze is a very nice guy personally . . . But he is not an “historian.” ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2004, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881/35 "2004-01-07T20:43:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jeevwoman \* > \*\*Eddie! \ \*\* From zee day he vas born, he vas trouble… ---
**Author:** ![LosAdri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@LosAdri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LosAdri)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881/36 "2004-01-08T16:11:13Z")
Fab Fillipo- not sure if he is of the queer but if you want extra gazing time now that he’s left the show, check out the episode(s) of Friends he was on Fot that matter, b/c Robert Gant is the yummy and brainy and all things good, he was on Popular (a sadly now defunct series) as the principle. Imagine my double take when he popped up on QaF. As for the QaF count of out/straight Out -Peter Paige - Randy Harrison - Robert Gant (I cry) Straight - Hal Sparks (and btw: Hal is a cutie and is heavily involved in other projects, so lets not go dissing) - Guy who plays Ted who I just blanked on (—) Question: what are both Thea Gill and Other Blank in my head (other lesbian)? Gale Harold I believe is straight from everything i’ve seen/read and also married I think Hot Just hot ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881/37 "2004-01-08T16:26:41Z")
> [@](#): > > Fot that matter, b/c Robert Gant is the yummy and brainy and all things good, he was on Popular (a sadly now defunct series) as the principle. Imagine my double take when he popped up on QaF. Omigod, right, he was Vice Principal Krupp! _Loved_ that show. “What the hell happened to you, Mary Cherry? You look like one of those Make-a-Wish kids!” Hal Sparks is a friend-of-a-friend, so I feel guilty about not liking him. “He’s really very nice,” says Our Mutual Friend. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881/38 "2004-01-08T17:21:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GMRyujin \* > \*\*From zee day he vas born, he vas trouble… \*\* If that is an **Elvira Kurt** reference, I’m quite impressed. > [@](#): > > Question: what are both Thea Gill and Other Blank in my head (other lesbian)? Both Thea Gill and Michelle Clunie are straight. And it shows, IMHO. In fact, Gale Harold is the only straight actor on the show that plays his gay part convincingly. ---
**Author:** ![CairaJade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@CairaJade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairaJade)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881/39 "2004-01-08T18:42:29Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Homebrew_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _Originally posted by GMRyujin_ > > From zee day he vas born, he vas trouble… > > If that is an Elvira Kurt reference, I’m quite impressed. If I’m not mistaken, it’s a _Rocky Horror_ reference. ---
**Author:** ![LosAdri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@LosAdri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LosAdri)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881/40 "2004-01-08T19:35:46Z")
Maybe the fact that Hal Sparks and Ted-boy (I watch this show religiously and have all episodes on my computer, why is his name not in my head?!) aren’t necessarily the most flaming beings on the planet means they are playing their parts perfectly: Men who happen to be gay. Another random sideproject: Hal Sparks was one of the co-creators of “I Love the 80’s” and subsequent shows. When Mo Rocca came to speak at my college, he mentioned Hal as a co-creator. Hence why he is always being interviewed on it [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-break-up-with-kyan-but-im-ok/222881.md?page=3)