# My Christianity

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [December 24, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076 "2013-12-24T13:53:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 10

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/181 "2014-01-03T05:00:54Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> Then please do … and skip the milk toast … these well-trodden loop holds only deflect you from your task. I’m holding you to your word, no more gripping about Christianity, or take it to the pit.

Why are you only concerned with how atheists argue? What about no “gripping” about atheists, internet gays, the gay lobby etc?

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/182 "2014-01-03T05:04:13Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> Then please do … and skip the milk toast … these well-trodden loop holds only deflect you from your task.

Well I was having a nice discussion with the OP about what parts of the Bible one should follow or not, and how pretty much all Christians cherry pick.

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> I’m holding you to your word, no more gripping about Christianity, or take it to the pit.

No, I can do both at the same time.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/183 "2014-01-03T05:06:04Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> We’d like that…but history shows us that gods don’t compromise. BTW, what atheists do is fight _back_.

I’m surprised, I was hoping for your support in cooling things down here. You know the rules better than I do, flaming Christians is for the pit. And I do mean Christians, those are ad hominem attacks from Kable now. [wolfish grin] And we all know what that means in debate, right?

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/184 "2014-01-03T05:09:02Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> And I do mean Christians, those are ad hominem attacks from Kable now.

What was?

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/185 "2014-01-03T05:09:59Z")

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> [@Kable](#):
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> Well I was having a nice discussion with the OP about what parts of the Bible one should follow or not, and how pretty much all Christians cherry pick.

Yeah … pretty much all Christians … I have to agree with your there. Just hunt around for the church that suits your lifestyle and put a mess of money on the plate … all is forgiven.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/186 "2014-01-03T05:10:59Z")

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> [@Kable](#):
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> Hey genius, why not just send a PM?

Uncalled for IMEIO.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/187 "2014-01-03T05:11:57Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> I’m surprised, I was hoping for your support in cooling things down here. You know the rules better than I do, flaming Christians is for the pit. And I do mean Christians, those are ad hominem attacks from Kable now. [wolfish grin] And we all know what that means in debate, right?

And again I ask why you are only concerned with how the _atheists_ debate. Are you of the opinion that civility should be a one-way street?

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/188 "2014-01-03T05:14:44Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> Yeah … pretty much all Christians …

What are you?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/189 "2014-01-03T05:15:13Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> I’m surprised, I was hoping for your support in cooling things down here. You know the rules better than I do, flaming Christians is for the pit. And I do mean Christians, those are ad hominem attacks from Kable now. [wolfish grin] And we all know what that means in debate, right?

Nothing in any of my posts in this thread belongs in The BBQ Pit. You claimed that the atheists were fighting the Christians, and I remarked that that the atheists were fighting _back_. What makes your statement acceptable in this forum, and mine not?

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/190 "2014-01-03T05:15:44Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> Uncalled for IMEIO.

Helpful suggestions are uncalled for?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/191 "2014-01-03T05:18:54Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> Uncalled for IMEIO.

Not really-if what you two want is a private conversation where you get to set the rules beyond what this forum already sets forth private messages would certainly be the way to go, in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/192 "2014-01-03T05:21:06Z")

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> [@Kable](#):
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> . . . That’s funny, coming from a Christian.

Um… You’ve got some problems here in making unwarranted assumptions about other people.

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/193 "2014-01-03T05:23:20Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Um… You’ve got some problems here in making unwarranted assumptions about other people.

Feel free to correct my assumption.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/194 "2014-01-03T05:25:06Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Nothing in any of my posts in this thread belongs in The BBQ Pit. You claimed that the atheists were fighting the Christians, and I remarked that that the atheists were fighting _back_. What makes your statement acceptable in this forum, and mine not?

Are you fighting my agreement? Very strange Czarcasm. An atheist is someone who is against religion … a - theist. Agnostic is not caring one way or the other. Maybe we got our definitions mixed up?

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/195 "2014-01-03T05:26:01Z")

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> [@QueenOfClubs](#):
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> . . . What do you think blue laws were?
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> . . . Basically, if you don’t like Christianity, don’t go to a church, eh mate?

There’s the problem: I don’t go to church, but the church comes to me, forcing blue laws on me, even though I am not a subscriber to their faith. The blue laws are not “civilization’s” laws, but “church” laws.

If you must pass blue laws, at least add a codicil explaining that they only apply to Christians, not to those who aren’t. “Stores have to close on Sunday…if the owner is a Christian. Otherwise, buying and selling on Sunday is perfectly okay.”

I don’t go to church, and I don’t want the church coming after me either.

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/196 "2014-01-03T05:27:54Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> Are you fighting my agreement? Very strange Czarcasm. An atheist is someone who is against religion … a - theist.

No, an atheist just does not believe in gods. An anti-theist is against religion.

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> Agnostic is not caring one way or the other.

An agnostic doesn’t know, he may care.

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> Maybe we got our definitions mixed up?

You got yours mixed up.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/197 "2014-01-03T05:30:33Z")

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> [@Kable](#):
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> Feel free to correct my assumption.

I am not a Christian.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/198 "2014-01-03T05:32:50Z")

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> [@Kable](#):
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> You got yours mixed up.

If you are not searching, why are you asking?

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/199 "2014-01-03T05:33:01Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> Are you fighting my agreement? Very strange Czarcasm. An atheist is someone who is against religion … a - theist. Agnostic is not caring one way or the other. Maybe we got our definitions mixed up?

Not exactly. An atheist is one who is without religion. The “a-” means “Not having.” Someone with no brain would be acerebral. Someone without speech is aphasic, and so on.

Of course, there are lots and lots of different kinds of atheists. Many atheists are against religion. But many are not. The latter kind are entirely willing to let other people have their religion. They just don’t share in the beliefs and assumptions, and see no need to participate in the rituals.

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/200 "2014-01-03T05:33:19Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> I am not a Christian.

Are you an atheist too then?

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