# My Christianity **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [December 24, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076 "2013-12-24T13:53:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/201 "2014-01-03T05:36:19Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > If you are not searching, why are you asking? I wasn’t asking that time. I was telling you, you were wrong. Also I think you agreed all Christians cherry pick, kind of implying you were above all that. So I asked you what you are, but you seem to have ignored that, and only that, inquiry. So what are you again? ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/202 "2014-01-03T05:37:23Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > There’s the problem: I don’t go to church, but the church comes to me, forcing blue laws on me, even though I am not a subscriber to their faith. The blue laws are not “civilization’s” laws, but “church” laws. > > If you must pass blue laws, at least add a codicil explaining that they only apply to Christians, not to those who aren’t. “Stores have to close on Sunday…if the owner is a Christian. Otherwise, buying and selling on Sunday is perfectly okay.” > > I don’t go to church, and I don’t want the church coming after me either. Aye … that doesn’t sound very Christian to me either. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/203 "2014-01-03T05:43:05Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > I wasn’t asking that time. I was telling you, you were wrong. > > Also I think you agreed all Christians cherry pick, kind of implying you were above all that. So I asked you what you are, but you seem to have ignored that, and only that, inquiry. So what are you again? I am a simple Christian … love your brother as you love yourself … if that is wrong for you, then so be it. I can only judge the matter for myself. I agreed that **mostly** all Christians cherry pick, try not to make that mistake again. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/204 "2014-01-03T05:46:48Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > I am a simple Christian … love your brother as you love yourself … if that is wrong for you, then so be it. Who’s your brother? > [@](#): > > I can only judge the matter for myself. I agreed that **mostly** all Christians cherry pick, try not to make that mistake again. You don’t cherry pick? What mistake are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/205 "2014-01-03T06:01:57Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > Who’s your brother? Everyone … including you … pretty creepy eh? > [@Kable](#): > > You don’t cherry pick? What mistake are you talking about? Do you know what excommunication is? That’s hardly cherry-picking. Um, yeah, you know perfectly well how many churches would welcome me in [scratches head] not sure why they’d want me except for the guilt money I would pay. You changed my words so you could disagree with them. It’s bad form and maybe you should be more careful about that. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/206 "2014-01-03T06:13:45Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > Everyone … including you … pretty creepy eh? Really? So what are your thoughts on Jesus casting me into hellfire? You for it or against it? > [@](#): > > Do you know what excommunication is? You were excommunicated? For what? > [@](#): > > That’s hardly cherry-picking. Um, yeah, you know perfectly well how many churches would welcome me in [scratches head] not sure why they’d want me except for the guilt money I would pay. So what did you do? > [@](#): > > You changed my words so you could disagree with them. How so? ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/207 "2014-01-03T06:27:45Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > Really? So what are your thoughts on Jesus casting me into hellfire? You for it or against it? I believe one must make the free will choice to step into the fire. Otherwise I guess you’re worm food, not sure I’ll meet any better fate. Frankly I’d rather be eaten by a coyote, but we have fairly draconian laws here about dead bodies. > [@Kable](#): > > You were excommunicated? For what? So what did you do? Divorce > [@Kable](#): > > How so? Starts with your post #182, “pretty much all Christians”. I think it’s unfair to say Catholics cherry pick … they’re told what to believe and then believe it. Whatever else might be said of such a practice, I really don’t think it’s cherry picking. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/208 "2014-01-03T06:35:50Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > I believe one must make the free will choice to step into the fire. “Step into the fire.” Don’t you read your Bible, Jesus sends forth his angels to gather you up and throws you in the fire. > [@](#): > > Otherwise I guess you’re worm food, not sure I’ll meet any better fate. Jesus won’t forgive you? > [@](#): > > Divorce What church excommunicates you for divorce? > [@](#): > > I think it’s unfair to say Catholics cherry pick … Sure they do. > [@](#): > > they’re told what to believe and then believe it. You mean like birth control? ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/209 "2014-01-03T06:47:51Z")
If your not seeking, why are you asking? ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/210 "2014-01-03T06:50:24Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > If your not seeking, why are you asking? I already answered that. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/211 "2014-01-03T06:51:52Z")
You made a statement, but you do not rest on it. What do you seek? ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/212 "2014-01-03T06:55:06Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > You made a statement, but you do not rest on it. What do you seek? I seek you answering my questions in post #208. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/213 "2014-01-03T06:58:41Z")
Please give me an answer to my question on post #198, one that you can rest with. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/214 "2014-01-03T07:02:29Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > Please give me an answer to my question on post #198, one that you can rest with. I rest with (whatever that means) the answer I gave in post #115. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/215 "2014-01-03T07:07:58Z")
[quote=“Kable, post:214, topic:677076”] (whatever that means)/QUOTE] Aye … you are a restless soul … always seeking. Someday you’ll find something that will bring your heart peace, perhaps then you’ll understand resting from one’s labors. For what purpose this methodology? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/216 "2014-01-03T07:08:27Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > Are you an atheist too then? Yep. > [@watchwolf49](#): > > I believe one must make the free will choice to step into the fire. Otherwise I guess you’re worm food, not sure I’ll meet any better fate. Frankly I’d rather be eaten by a coyote, but we have fairly draconian laws here about dead bodies. . . . Coyotes are fun. I guess I’d prefer them to worms or buzzards. I never much liked buzzards. Must come from having read “The Red Pony” in school. I’ve heard it said in some Christian interpretations that the damned soul “steps voluntarily” into hell. I wonder about that, though: if there isn’t some form of compulsion or trickery, who would do such a stupid thing? [Eddie Murphy voice] “Whoa! That’s fire and brimstone! I ain’t steppin’ into no fire and brimstone!” C.S. Lewis tried to approach this idea in “The Great Divorce,” but, in my opinion, he failed miserably. The story didn’t seem to convey the point he wanted it to. The characters in the story were trying to reach heaven, but couldn’t. There were obstacles. The way wasn’t clear. They got lost. That isn’t the same as “Voluntarily not going.” That’s being blocked from going. (I have a very, very low opinion of C.S. Lewis’ formal theology. His Narnia books are much better. I’ve never read the Space Trilogy.) ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/217 "2014-01-03T07:11:56Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > Aye … you are a restless soul … always seeking. Someday you’ll find something that will bring your heart peace, perhaps then you’ll understand resting from one’s labors. > > For what purpose this methodology? You can read all about it here: [Socratic method - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socratic_method) So about them my questions in post #208, if you don’t want to answer them just say so. If I were you I wouldn’t want to answer them either. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/218 "2014-01-03T07:24:59Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Coyotes are fun. I just want back in at a higher level on the food chain … kinda weird, but there you have it. > [@Trinopus](#): > > I’ve heard it said in some Christian interpretations that the damned soul “steps voluntarily” into hell. I wonder about that, though: if there isn’t some form of compulsion or trickery, who would do such a stupid thing? [Eddie Murphy voice] “Whoa! That’s fire and brimstone! I ain’t steppin’ into no fire and brimstone!” I think of it’s more mundane understanding … if you make a mistake, just fess up to it, “Stand in God’s judgement” as it were. Sure you’ll get yelled at for 5 minutes, but if you don;t fess up … well … judgement last longer if you take my meaning. All I know for sure is no mortal has returned with any tales of the afterlife … makes it hard to say what is and what is not. > [@Trinopus](#): > > C.S. Lewis tried to approach this idea in “The Great Divorce,” but, in my opinion, he failed miserably. _Pilgrim’s Progress_ by John Bunyan … a bit of a chore to read, but rewarding in it’s understanding of the human condition. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/219 "2014-01-03T07:29:32Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > if you don’t want to answer them just say so. If I were you I wouldn’t want to answer them either. You have your answer in post #201, don’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076/220 "2014-01-03T07:33:24Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > You have your answer in post #201, don’t you? No, #208 has different questions. Again, if you don’t want to answer them just say so. Like I said, I wouldn’t want to answer them either. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-christianity/677076.md?page=12)