# 'My community has suffered enough' **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 15, 2007, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-community-has-suffered-enough/408169 "2007-06-15T21:15:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2007, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-community-has-suffered-enough/408169/1 "2007-06-15T21:15:37Z")
My nomination for the “fucking understatement of the year by a fucked up politicain” (local government division) goes to Mike “those holligans” Nifong > [@Mike Nifong](#): > > “It has become increasingly apparent, during the course of this week, in some ways that it might not have been before, that my presence as the district attorney in Durham is not furthering the cause of justice,” oh. really. what was it this week that finally brought it to your attention? the fact you may loose your license to practice? So, it wasn’t the DNA results you managed not to turn over to the defense that was, oh, what was that phrase, ‘possibly exculpatory evidence’? and this: > [@Mike Nifong](#): > > “It is not fair for the people of my community to be represented by someone who is not held in high esteem by either the members of the community or the members of the profession,” Nifong said. Once again - ‘not held in high esteem’? When the bar association brought charges against you, wasn’t that a clue the size of Alaska that you weren’t held in high esteem by members of your profession? Barring that, when the state took over the case and stated in a news conference that the charges would be dropped, not because of a 'lack of evidence but because > [@](#): > > the three athletes were “innocent” victims of a rogue prosecutor’s “tragic rush to accuse,” , didn’t **that** strike you as a possability that you weren’t held in high esteem? what an ass. ---
**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2007, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-community-has-suffered-enough/408169/2 "2007-06-15T22:16:28Z")
Here I am. Leaping to his defense. Leaping. Yep, leaping. Watch me leap. I’m about to leap now. Ready? …Are you watching? I’m juuuuuuust about ready to leap to his defense. Annnny minute now. Yep. Wait, who again? Uh, no. I cannot support this OP’s tragic rush to accuse Nifong of being a hemorrhoid on the anus of a zombie shark. How dare we attack him after only fourteen months of demonstrable incompetence. I’m just _positive_ there’s exculpatory evidence out there somewhere that absolves Nifong of his tragic mental dysfunction. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2007, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-community-has-suffered-enough/408169/3 "2007-06-15T22:33:02Z")
[QUOTE=Fish] I’m just _positive_ there’s exculpatory evidence out there somewhere that absolves Nifong of his tragic mental dysfunction. [/QUOTE] Maybe he can go golfing with OJ, looking for the killer. He _should_ do time, but will probably only lose his license. More’s the pity. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2007, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-community-has-suffered-enough/408169/4 "2007-06-15T23:25:44Z")
Where does a disbarred attorney go for a job? I mean, he’s pretty notorious now, maybe he has to be Mr. Mom while his wife goes out and earns a living. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2007, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-community-has-suffered-enough/408169/5 "2007-06-15T23:52:16Z")
[QUOTE=ivylass] Where does a disbarred attorney go for a job? . [/QUOTE] I dunno, is there any tinpot dictator of an English-speaking state looking for a Minister of Kangaroo Courts? My guess: Talk Radio. If G. Gordon Liddy can make it… ---
**Author:** ![JohnM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/848f3c/32.png) [@JohnM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnM)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2007, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-community-has-suffered-enough/408169/6 "2007-06-15T23:55:50Z")
[QUOTE=ivylass] Where does a disbarred attorney go for a job? [/QUOTE] I predict a suddenly discovered substance abuse problem (alcohol, pills, what have you) followed by a stint in rehab, a public tearful confession and a book deal. Then comes talk radio. ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2007, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-community-has-suffered-enough/408169/7 "2007-06-15T23:57:24Z")
I don’t think he’ll be disbarred. I think he’ll definitely be disciplined, but I will be surprised if he ends up disbarred. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2007, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-community-has-suffered-enough/408169/8 "2007-06-15T23:59:45Z")
Why don’t you think he’ll be disbarred? ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2007, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-community-has-suffered-enough/408169/9 "2007-06-16T00:08:33Z")
Just because that’s such a nuclear bomb: it’s the end of your career. I think if they show that he lied about the DNA, which he adamantly states he did not, they will disbar him, but otherwise they won’t. Disbarment is usually for gross, repeated malpractice. One case? Probably not, IMO. This isn’t to say I’m defendng the guy, I’m not. ---
**Author:** ![Thru\_the\_Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a8b319/32.png) [@Thru\_the\_Blue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thru_the_Blue)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2007, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-community-has-suffered-enough/408169/10 "2007-06-16T00:24:13Z")
[QUOTE=Jodi] Just because that’s such a nuclear bomb: it’s the end of your career. I think if they show that he lied about the DNA, which he adamantly states he did not, they will disbar him, but otherwise they won’t. Disbarment is usually for gross, repeated malpractice. One case? Probably not, IMO. This isn’t to say I’m defendng the guy, I’m not. [/QUOTE] I don’t know if I buy that…a single malpractice case can end a doctor’s entire career (I’m thinking about the parallel between licensure). Okay, he didn’t kill anyone, but this seems like a pretty huge error. I’m kind of hard pressed to think up something much worse (for a lawyer) than lying about the evidence, pressing forward and ultimately being proven wrong to the entire nation. You might be right - I just hope not. ---
**Author:** ![11811](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/9d8465/32.png) [@11811](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/11811)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2007, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-community-has-suffered-enough/408169/11 "2007-06-16T00:56:28Z")
[QUOTE=JohnM] I predict a suddenly discovered substance abuse problem (alcohol, pills, what have you) followed by a stint in rehab, a public tearful confession and a book deal. Then comes talk radio. [/QUOTE] You think he’ll shave off all his hair as part of the final meltdown? And then make his reappearance at the House of Blues? ---
**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2007, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-community-has-suffered-enough/408169/12 "2007-06-16T00:57:07Z")
[QUOTE=Jodi] Just because that’s such a nuclear bomb: it’s the end of your career. I think if they show that he lied about the DNA, which he adamantly states he did not, they will disbar him, but otherwise they won’t. Disbarment is usually for gross, repeated malpractice. One case? Probably not, IMO. [/QUOTE] I think he’ll get the ax. Even though it is only one case, it was a tremendously high profile one which is the reason the media misstatements were so relevant. He showed notable lack of candor to the defendants and the court, at the very least. More significantly, he did this in an apparent attempt to secure reelection, damn the course of justice. Even when it became patently obvious that the case had fallen apart, he refused to change course. From the coverage of his testimony today, he didn’t seem particularly candid or credible – or remorseful. Frankly, I was shocked to find out today that he hadn’t resigned previously. I thought he was out. I don’t think that his tearful resignation at his hearing particularly helped his cause. Most important, the core problem here is the gross abuse of his prosecutorial power. An ordinary lawyer who made inaccurate media statements and hid evidence in a single, high-profile case would probably get discipline short of disbarment. However, as a District Attorney (the elected official, not an ADA) who ignored the absence of credible supporting evidence and the substantial exculpatory evidence while continuing to prosecute for a serious crime, I cannot see how – assuming the accusations of ethical breaches are sustained – anything short of disbarment would be appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2007, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-community-has-suffered-enough/408169/13 "2007-06-16T03:55:03Z")
[QUOTE=ivylass] Where does a disbarred attorney go for a job? I mean, he’s pretty notorious now, maybe he has to be Mr. Mom while his wife goes out and earns a living. [/QUOTE] Real estate. He’d kick ass: known name, good will in at least part of the community, wicked lawyer skillz. Okay, maybe not the last one. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2007, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-community-has-suffered-enough/408169/14 "2007-06-16T04:48:00Z")
Was the title perhaps only half the quote? “My community has suffered enough…so my work here is done.” ---
**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2007, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-community-has-suffered-enough/408169/15 "2007-06-16T12:10:11Z")
Yeah, he is really sorry - he plays the sympathy card: “I am so proud of my son and hope he is proud of me”. Why in the world would you want your son at your disbarment hearing? And the asshole used the term “victim” repeatedly yesterday in reference to LW Crystal Magnum. He also stated he still believes “something happened” in that bathroom, even after the AG stated nothing happened. His testimony yesterday either proves him a liar or a very, very sloppy lawyer. I sincerely hope they disbar his ass. ---
**Author:** ![Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abby_Emma_Sasha)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2007, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-community-has-suffered-enough/408169/16 "2007-06-16T12:35:17Z")
[QUOTE=SnakesCatLady] And the asshole used the term “victim” repeatedly yesterday in reference to LW Crystal Magnum. He also stated he still believes “something happened” in that bathroom, even after the AG stated nothing happened. [/QUOTE] Let’s not be hasty, perhaps he’s right. I think Fatty Arbuckle raped her in the bathroom with a candlestick. ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2007, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-community-has-suffered-enough/408169/17 "2007-06-16T12:48:05Z")
[QUOTE=Abby\_Emma\_Sasha] Let’s not be hasty, perhaps he’s right. I think Fatty Arbuckle raped her in the bathroom with a candlestick. [/QUOTE] No, I think it was Professor Plum in the conservatory with a strap-on. ---
**Author:** ![Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abby_Emma_Sasha)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2007, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-community-has-suffered-enough/408169/18 "2007-06-16T13:31:30Z")
[QUOTE=danceswithcats] No, I think it was Professor Plum in the conservatory with a strap-on. [/QUOTE] Professor Plum was obviously one of the “group of 88”. ---
**Author:** ![Geobabe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/geobabe/32/3908_2.png) [@Geobabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geobabe)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2007, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-community-has-suffered-enough/408169/19 "2007-06-16T13:43:07Z")
I’d say the chances are very high that he will be disbarred, given that the NC legislature has [as much as told the Bar](http://www.newsobserver.com/front/story/598609.html) that, given past fuckups and the high level of national attention to this case, if they go easy on Nifong, they will have their power to regulate themselves taken away. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2007, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-community-has-suffered-enough/408169/20 "2007-06-16T14:30:05Z")
[QUOTE=SnakesCatLady] Why in the world would you want your son at your disbarment hearing? [/QUOTE] A cheap play for sympathy from the board. “Would you want this innocent little child to see his beloved father disgraced and destroyed before your very eyes? Can you really live with yourselves after destroying the family’s source of income that means so much to his future?” Etc. I trust they saw through it anyway. Perhaps they’ll take into account the damage to the credibility of the justice system itself that he caused, and feel they have to throw the book at him to restore it. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-community-has-suffered-enough/408169.md?page=2)