my computer's clock is on crack.

Actually, you are right on both counts. CMOS refers to the chip construction, and BIOS is it’s function. So go You!

Defective battery could only be the problem if the machine is being powered off - it isn’t. Therefore the most likely problem was one mentioned earlier. Windows timer file is off and it has no idea how many ticks there are per second.
Update, or use the link I gave to software that checks against the hardware clock.
Software that checks against an atomic clock is good too. I have a cron job that does that once an hour if I am online.

My PC’s clock would be off sometimes too. It bothered me, since at the time, my PC was pretty new, so I didn’t think it was a bad battery. (It wasn’t.) I have read that some applications affect Windows’ clock, or something. Whatever.

All I know is that this neat little program fixed it.
http://www.locutuscodeware.com/swatch.htm

All this BIOS and CMOS talk is making my mind boggle. I was exaggerating a bit when I said 5 or 6 minutes. Well, exaggerating a lot. I’ve lost 17 minutes since last night. Yes, I leave my computer on all the time and when I reboot the time is back to normal. I never had a problem with this until i started leaving it on.

I guess it’s really not important enough for me to go replacing things and having things repaired…

Another thing that might be related… I have the free version of PSP and I’m too cheap to actually go and buy it so i keep the clock set back to January 1999… every few weeks i’ll set it back again (shh… don’t tell). Could that have anything to do with it?

Kyberneticist is right – as I said before, Windows is not an atomic clock; leave it on all the time (especally if it goes to sleep/standby) and it will loose time. Nothing you can do about it but reboot on a daily basis, or turn the computer off when your done with it.

I said loose time, on occasion it will gain time, just not as common as loosing.

As a former software reseller, I find the exchange of how to cheat the companies out of hard earned research and development disgusting. I especially hate the idea of cheating JASC their hard earned money as they offer an EXCELLENT program at a very reasonable price.

If you can’t or refuse to afford to pay for PSP then get off your ass and delete the program from your system. I have paid for and have all legal copies of software on my system. I don’t do this so you can have free software.

I find it rude and downright unfair to cheat them, especially JASC.

In addition, it is against the rules of this board. I hate to be a narc but the mods will be notified and hopefully your posts will be deleted.

This stuff really irritates me…

On the other hand, he could just keep downloading a new version of the beta every month or two, and that would be ok. Granted, it uses a lot more bandwidth, but in this day and age…
Yes, cheating Jasc is bad. Yes, paying for it is good. But if he can’t/won’t anyway, he might as well stop restting his system clock.
Jeez. This attitude is as silly as that of Microsoft, which charges people an insanely high price (even tried charging twice recently) for their OS.
Of course the majority of people steal it.
TechChick68, I know you’re trying hard to be self-rightous about this, but are you going to tell me that every single piece of software on the computers you own you have a license for? Ever?
Companies like Jasc would like it if the home user paid for their product, instead of redownloading it (which they must see in their logs) or resetting the registry (which they must infer) but they make the most of their money off of business lans - just like Microsoft.
If they were really trying, it would be trivial to make the Jasc program keep incrementing a byte in its code and expire once thirty or fourty uses had occurred, like many shareware apps I’ve seen do.

Jasc PSP is shareware. The license does not forbid you from reinstalling it as many times as you wish.
Modifying the registry may be unethical, but that’s it.

I would just like to point out that I am female, then go run and hide under the nearest rock.

AndyR, it’s a well known Windo$ problem. Win is inherently unstable, many programs may do many things to it. Third party SW designers publish patches for clock limp, for instance, Norton. Rather than finding out which program(s) does it to you, install a clock synchronizer (many are FW), if you need this clock badly. For me, only a sixth one I tried, worked. It’s called NetTime Synchronizer.

Slashdot just posted an article comparing how the RIAA differs from the SIIA “helps explain why groups like the BSA don’t raise hackles the way the RIAA does: they tend to go after the large-scale counterfeiters, not kids with a cracked copy of Photoshop.”

In other words, ease up on… er… her, Techchick68 already!
Besides my finding it very hard to believe that all software on your computer at the moment is legal (since you said you aren’t running Linux or FreeBSD or somesuch and are still in Windows world) - I don’t think you’ve never pirated in the past. But you weren’t nailed for it, were you? Piracy can even develop markets.
The pirating student now expects those software packages at work, and pressures his employer to buy them. I know such was the case with SecureCRT at my workplace.

Oh, and just checking. Do you have one Windows license for each installation of the software on each machine at home?
Going after people for resetting their shareware licenses at home is to a corporation like Jasc the same as Taco Bell cracking down on people for taking packets of hot sauce home.

<<Going after people for resetting their shareware licenses at home is to a corporation like Jasc the same as Taco Bell cracking down on people for taking packets of hot sauce home.>>

I steal sporks from taco bell… I guess im just an all-around bad person. :frowning:

I meant to edit the offending post but accidentally deleted it instead. My apologies.

We do not condone any behavior that involves theft, and that includes hacking, cracking, and copyright violations.

Do not make posts advocating such behavior.

Do not make posts with links to sites that provide assistance to that sort of thing.

Do not make posts advising others how to cheat.

your humble TubaDiva
Administrator

Kyberneticist:

I am not trying to be self-righteous about anything. Yes I have had potentially illegal software on my computer in the past. Yes I have pushed the legal limits, but I know the problems with this and at this moment there is NOT an illegal program on my computer. All are properly licensed and registered – sides I get benefits from registering my software.

In fact, I gave up licensing rights to an upgrade for MS’s Office so my parents could have Office 97. As a reseller I was able to obtain the full Office 2000 Professional version for less than $120, legally and direct from Microsoft. This is a “Not For Resale” copy and not a highjacked, illegal copy. Even though I am no longer a reseller, as a consultant I still qualify for the product’s cheap price. In addition, I have had friends ask me to install my software on their machines…something I refuse to do. I don’t loan out my software, it’s not who I am about.

Look Kyber, just because I actually feel strongly about this issue does not mean that I will turn you or anyone else into the proper software companies, which I have done in the past, trust me on this…MS and I are “good buddies” when it comes to piracy. The Straight Dope does not condone a discussion of stealing, be that within the realms of software or anything else.

I made my point once and once only until this post so don’t jump on my back for pointing it out in my last post.

Oh and JASC’s PSP is NOT sharware, you must purchase it otherwise you wouldn’t have to circumvent the disabling features it has in it. Evaluation period means just that, you can evaluate it for 30 days then you can decide if you choose to purchase it…big difference since it disables most or all the features. I paid for my PSP and so should anyone else. If we all got software for free then there would be no room for software companies to develop and better their products. The money they get in return allows them to make a better product.

Look, if you feel that using a software program that side steps an eval copy of a program is okay, good on ya. But I think it’s wrong and only hurts the companies involved. JASC makes a great photo/graphics program that is easy to learn and offers professionals and amateurs alike the opportunity to have such a great program that does not cost the likes of Photoshop combined with Illustrator about $1,000 in total, both of which I have, legally.

So keep their costs down and pay for the programs…it’s that simple. It’s no different than walking into Wal*Mart and stuffing a thing of deoderant in your jacket pocket, it’s stealing and that’s a pretty simple concept to understand, I hope.

If you can’t afford a program work a few extra hours at your job so you can but don’t force a rise in costs for the rest of us because you highjack a program.

Oh and BTW, because I am a network admin, I am stronger on this than most would be. I can not allow my client to jeapordize a lawsuit with Microsoft or any other software company because of some “unfairness” seen within my client’s company. It’s not worth facing a $100,000 for my client to not have the appropriate licensing.

I am very strong on this issue and find that if my client or anyone else wants to have illegal copies of software, I refuse to be a part of it, plain and simple.

Yes, now that you are a network admin you can afford to have all your software be registered and legal. At those times in the past, why didn’t you? Were you any less moral?
And, as I mentioned before, I don’t have any pirated software on my computer myself. Haven’t had any for two years now.
Your a network admin. You insist all the software in your company be registered and legal.
Great! As I posted above, that’s what the software piracy agencies check up on, and thats where company revenues really come from.
The point I was making wasn’t that it wasn’t wrong, just that it was not that big a deal. Would AndYrAStar have gone out and bought it once it expired if she could have?
Given she’s putting up with the hassle of a computer’s date perpetually set in the past, I’m guessing no. That’s why I gave her the hint, (and just a hint, not even detailed instructions, TubaDiva… Kinda wish you hadn’t deleted the rest of the post, which was a bit more relevant to her), not so she could do any big time piracy.
I have been a network admin in the past. I have reported office piracy and prevailed upon the company to buy copies. This is a lot different from railing against a home user on the internet.

AndYrAStar - there is a version of GIMP for Windows. This something similar to Paintshop, and in some ways superior. If you are tired of having your clock reset, you can either e-mail me for detailed instructions on how to deal with Paintshop, or detailed instructions on how to install GIMP, or a host of other Free Software Foundation products.

The commercial models I most approve of is paying for support, or requiring a license for business use (such as MySQL uses). That way, the home user is not turned into a criminal, and the companies still rake in the cash.

Why do you think Novell and IBM and Microsoft have given away their products to college students?
Because when those students go to their jobs, they are ready made customers. And rather then tracking them down for a license or two, they have a ready made market in company wide licenses.

BTW, you’ve brought up being a sys admin on several other occasions - most disturbingly, the time you jumped down some people’s throats in GQ for either giving silly answers to your question, or ones you felt were insulting to your skills. As I said, I’m not arguing the morality of AndYrAStar’s software usage, I’m questioning your response. You a type A personality?

There are times I am really glad I got out of admin and went back to coding…

Not to be a hardass about it (she said as she continued to be a hardass :)), but please show me where in the law it says it’s permissible to steal if you need something and cannot afford to put down cash for it.

I really need a new car right now and I certainly can’t afford to pay for it. Can I steal yours out of your driveway with no fear of being arrested or charged or spending any time in jail? I bet not.

While it’s certainly a nice thing when software companies make their products availble to the home user for a discount (and fabulous when it’s freeware, thankyouverymuch), that choice is the company’s to make. Not the users.

This is not only a legal but also a moral issue, so it has meaning beyond this simple matter. IMHO, how you as a human being behave in your everyday dealings is indicative of your character. Or lack of it. 'Nuff said.

your humble TubaDiva

Gee, well thanks.
Ok, we don’t live in a socialist country, 'tis true.
I am merely pointing out that what is going on is on the same level to Jasc as carrying off some sporks or hot sauce from taco bell.
Yes, they are losing out a bit, but they are gaining far more in the increase in users and audience by not “being a hardass” about it. They make their money back from their true marketplace, the corporation.

I did agree though, that it is immoral.
Specifically, at the moment we have laws that treat software differently from other media.
However, I just felt it was unfortunate that these licenses encouraged such immorality, which is why I am a supporter and contributor to the Free Software Foundation.

Well, Tubadiva, since you’ve showed up twice and seem to feel the same about it… Can you honestly say that all software on your computer is legal? As I said, I can.
The justification that charging people for each copy of information they have is the most questionable, I think.
Don’t you think it’s a trifle pathetic that something like DeCSS can be made illegal even though it is a piece of code which can be memorized?
How 'bout my explanation of how to expand a couple of trees in the registry and change one value?
You may think this is a clear-cut issue, but there has been considerable debate on both sides for many years now. I hardly need to resurrect it all, but claiming that the laws that apply to media or to physical products should also apply to programs is not a socialist stance. Quite a few libertarians support it too.
(Which is, btw, why your rather silly car example fails. Software can be copied infinite times with no additional cost. You are being deprived of only theoretical profits depending upon what it is legal for you to charge for - which is again a construct of our current legal system)

Anyway, we might have to move this into Great Debates soon, although I think there was a similar thread there a while back. If there wasn’t I can transplant similar debates from Slashdot.org there.

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**Well, Tubadiva, since you’ve showed up twice and seem to feel the same about it… Can you honestly say that all software on your computer is legal? As I said, I can. **

Yes. I’m one of those goofus types that pay shareware fees and stuff like that. All my software is legal and paid for.

your humble TubaDiva