# My daughter is into something called Otep. Should I be concerned. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 31, 2010, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughter-is-into-something-called-otep-should-i-be-concerned/541361 "2010-05-31T07:00:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughter-is-into-something-called-otep-should-i-be-concerned/541361/61 "2014-05-11T22:52:07Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > I apologize, though I believe my next post was an adequate retraction. Are you similarly warn Ponder? He agreed with me after all, yet I’m singledcout? Ponder was not agreeing with you. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughter-is-into-something-called-otep-should-i-be-concerned/541361/62 "2014-05-11T22:56:04Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > Are you similarly warn Ponder? He agreed with me after all, yet I’m singledcout? You were accusing **Ludovic** of being a sock, and not **Cats and Roses**? :dubious: **Ponder** was clearly making a joke, since your post followed **Ludovic’s** In any case, you should know to take complaints about moderation to ATMB rather than make them in the thread. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughter-is-into-something-called-otep-should-i-be-concerned/541361/63 "2014-05-12T04:11:44Z")
> [@tnetennba](#): > > I’m going to say not a sock. > > - Her uncle > > I’m checking in with her dad to confirm and will let you know. Confirmed. Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughter-is-into-something-called-otep-should-i-be-concerned/541361/64 "2014-05-12T05:39:18Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > I apologize, though I believe my next post was an adequate retraction. Here’s what a retraction would look like: “I’d like to take that back. I was wrong and I’m sorry.” > [@](#): > > Are you similarly warn Ponder? He was joking, so no. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughter-is-into-something-called-otep-should-i-be-concerned/541361/65 "2014-05-12T07:16:56Z")
Otep? No. The SDMB? Yes, be very concerned indeed. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughter-is-into-something-called-otep-should-i-be-concerned/541361/66 "2014-05-12T08:40:16Z")
> [@tnetennba](#): > > Confirmed. Carry on. Hello, **tnetennba**. So we have\*\* Dio\*\*'s whole family onboard, now? ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughter-is-into-something-called-otep-should-i-be-concerned/541361/67 "2014-05-12T10:48:19Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > Hello, **tnetennba**. So we have\*\* Dio\*\*'s whole family onboard, now? I am **cricetus**. I changed my name. ---
**Author:** ![chargerrich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chargerrich/32/5399_2.png) [@chargerrich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chargerrich)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughter-is-into-something-called-otep-should-i-be-concerned/541361/68 "2014-05-12T13:29:43Z")
My preferred music ranges from very heavy metal to melodic death metal. Otep is great… for adults. I personally would not let my 10 year old listen however as the lyrics are generally laced with very adult words and themes. I pass NO JUDGEMENT (as I said I love the band) but as a parent you should now the following: 1. Very heavy with adult language and themes 2. Otep is openly gay if that matters to you 3. Lyrics often have political and strong sexual themes (Warhead is a personal favorite) Again, great metal. Her vocal range and growl are awesome but for a 10 year old? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughter-is-into-something-called-otep-should-i-be-concerned/541361/69 "2014-05-12T13:44:19Z")
I thought it was obvious I was referring to tnetennba, NOT Ludvoc. I find it hard to believe anyone would automatically assume he was joking. And why was my apology inadequate? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughter-is-into-something-called-otep-should-i-be-concerned/541361/70 "2014-05-12T14:05:35Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > I thought it was obvious I was referring to tnetennba, NOT Ludvoc. I find it hard to believe anyone would automatically assume he was joking. And why was my apology inadequate? This is the last time I’m going to tell you: drop the subject or take it to ATMB/private messages. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughter-is-into-something-called-otep-should-i-be-concerned/541361.md?page=3)