# My daughters boyfriend needs to turn in his man-card

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 20, 2009, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughters-boyfriend-needs-to-turn-in-his-man-card/518297 "2009-11-20T16:24:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Serenata67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/serenata67/32/10646_2.png) [@Serenata67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Serenata67)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughters-boyfriend-needs-to-turn-in-his-man-card/518297/41 "2009-11-21T03:43:56Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Another possible explanation:
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> Twilight and New Moon employ the “two trailers” theory of movie marketing. One trailer with all the gushy romantic stuff and one trailer with the kickass fight scenes. More than likely, he just got snowed by the Hollywood marketing machine.
> 
> Plus, he likely didn’t mention another reason he’s looking foward to it, the movie is filled with hot girls.

Shoot, I hear even Dakota Fanning is in it… and she’s grown up fast! I remember her in _I Am Sam_ … and now she’s all make-up wearing and foxy.  
And I feel dirty now.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughters-boyfriend-needs-to-turn-in-his-man-card/518297/42 "2009-11-21T03:52:23Z")

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I just wanted to add this to the discussion:

[http://www.complexactions.com/archive/023.shtml](http://www.complexactions.com/archive/023.shtml)

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughters-boyfriend-needs-to-turn-in-his-man-card/518297/43 "2009-11-21T04:07:30Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> The other day, my wife mentioned to me a story about people camping out for a day or two to see this movie – rightly, I called them “utter losers”. She pointed out to me that I camped out for the re-release of _Star Wars_

It’s all a question of how you see yourself.

I was staying at my brother’s at Christmas when each of the _Lord of the Rings_ movies was released. They would invite me to rush along to see the **first** session on Boxing day morning but I would rather sleep in.

One year I was up early enough to see them going. One of the nephews was exhorting everyone to hurry even though the movie wasn’t on for hours. I asked him what the rush was.

“We don’t want to get stuck in line behind the Lord of the Rings nerds,” he said.

“Dan,” I said, “ **you guys** are the Lord of the Ring nerds.”

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**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughters-boyfriend-needs-to-turn-in-his-man-card/518297/44 "2009-11-21T04:11:05Z")

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naturally. kids don’t have MAN cards.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughters-boyfriend-needs-to-turn-in-his-man-card/518297/45 "2009-11-21T07:03:07Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> It had Kate Winslet’s bosom _ **and half of it was sinking the freaking Titanic in real time!** _ What more does a movie need?

You’ve never watched Gurren Lagaan, have you?

Come on, admit it: Titanic would have been a much better movie had the titular ship turned into a giant robot and torn the iceberg apart by hand, then headed to Europe and won World War 1 six years ahead of schedule.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughters-boyfriend-needs-to-turn-in-his-man-card/518297/46 "2009-11-21T07:25:47Z")

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> [@An\_Arky](#):
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> Maybe he knows being virtually the only guy there has its advantages and he’ll be getting digits in the snack bar line.

'xactly. The guy has stumbled upon the [Sneaky Fucker Strategy](http://blogs.smh.com.au/lifestyle/allmenareliars/archives/2007/02/sneaky_fucker_t.html).

That, or some modern male teenagers \*really \*think Edward is cool as Steve McQueen. And they’re soooo gonna get nookie for it. I’d rather not think about this theory and its implications re:the future of the human race. LALALAAAA CAN’T HEAR YOU.

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughters-boyfriend-needs-to-turn-in-his-man-card/518297/47 "2009-11-21T07:52:06Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> The other day, my wife mentioned to me a story about people camping out for a day or two to see this movie –

In this case, I think ‘camping out’ means watching the movie. 😛

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughters-boyfriend-needs-to-turn-in-his-man-card/518297/48 "2009-11-21T08:06:12Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> You’ve never watched Gurren Lagaan, have you?
> 
> Come on, admit it: Titanic would have been a much better movie had the titular ship turned into a giant robot and torn the iceberg apart by hand, then headed to Europe and won World War 1 six years ahead of schedule.

Your iceberg is the iceberg that will pierce the heavens?

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughters-boyfriend-needs-to-turn-in-his-man-card/518297/49 "2009-11-21T09:13:50Z")

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He, emphatically, does not need to turn his man card.  
Just have him wear a simply divine pink dress with all of the ruffles, and nobody will even bother carding him.  
hh

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughters-boyfriend-needs-to-turn-in-his-man-card/518297/50 "2009-11-21T18:15:28Z")

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When I was coming back from vacation this summer there was a young serviceman in combat uniform sitting next to me at the gate. He was reading _Twilight_.

I was SO tempted to say something like “Hey man, is your girlfriend making you read that?” or even “I think reading that book is a DADT violation.” I restrained myself because I figured there was some slight chance that he actually liked the book and I’d have felt bad about making fun of an active duty serviceman’s reading material. And if he DID like _Twilight_, no doubt he was getting made fun of by his compatriots on a regular basis.

It did occur to me that the book might be a prop he was using to try to pick up women, like carrying around a cute puppy or something. If that’s the case it was too bad he wound up sitting next to me rather than some girl who’d have been impressed by it.

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**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughters-boyfriend-needs-to-turn-in-his-man-card/518297/51 "2009-11-21T21:24:11Z")

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I just went to see it yesterday as well…alone…just because I felt like seeing a hollywood style film that didn’t require any thinking. Do I have to turn in my man-card as well? How long till I get it back? Can I take a re-test?

I’d like to defend myself by saying I’m in Holland and the Tilight sereis isn’t as big here as in the US. It’s not common knowledge that the movie is pretty much only targeted at teenage girls. In all honesty though, I did have kind of good time. On numerous instances I bursted out with laughter at parts that were supposed to be sincere an/or touching, especially when the pale looking dude was in the scene. It was also kind of funny to be in a theatre full of teenage girls who were collectively gasping and cheering when any of the male leads came on screen, especially if they had their shirts off. So I think the horny teenage girls thing is kind of true, sorry for that **BlinkingDuck**.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughters-boyfriend-needs-to-turn-in-his-man-card/518297/52 "2009-11-21T21:54:34Z")

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> [@BlinkingDuck](#):
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> .
> 
> He looks up confused and says…but there will be great fights! and this! and that! And this and that! and that and this!
> 
> Whoa…this guy is LOOKING FORWARD to seeing the movie!
> 
> Turn in your man card dude!

I’m reminded a story I read a long time ago. I’m unsure on the author or the main details, but that’s for another thread.

As I recall a jealous man “accidentally” knocks his friend into a wood chipper or a wine press or an industrial grinding unit or some such. The guy in the process of being pulped does everything in his power to convince the guy who pulped him that the feeling is the most exquisite pleasure that anyone could ever hope to experience. In the normal way these stories go, the jealous guy eventually finds himself in a similar situation and discovers the truth: Being pulped hurts like a motherfucker.

I think the boyfriend is doing that to you.

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**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughters-boyfriend-needs-to-turn-in-his-man-card/518297/53 "2009-11-21T23:21:14Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> You’re right. Star Wars isn’t any cornier than New Moon.

Hmmm, I’d like to see what interest the movie New Moon holds in 20 or 30 years. I’m guessing people will STILL remember Star Wars, but not too many of them will remember New Moon.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughters-boyfriend-needs-to-turn-in-his-man-card/518297/54 "2009-11-22T00:23:31Z")

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Post-Flick nookie? This is the perfect make-out movie. Hardly anything happens so you can do lots of stuff in the back of the theater without missing anything.

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**Author:** ![Maiira](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Maiira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maiira)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughters-boyfriend-needs-to-turn-in-his-man-card/518297/55 "2009-11-22T06:31:20Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> :dubious:
> 
> Just who are these so called “guys”?

My dad. He liked the sinky bits.

It was really weird, actually. I think he ended up liking the movie more than I did…and I was a fifth grade girl! I liked HANSON, for god’s sake.

Now I watch the movie and I’m amused that Jack and Rose spend such a long time traipsing through all that water like it’s a swimming pool that’s slightly chilly. They get into the ocean proper after the sinking and THEN they start being all “it’s so cooooold I can’t mooooooove,” and I’m thinking “dude, that should’ve happened like an hour ago.”

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughters-boyfriend-needs-to-turn-in-his-man-card/518297/56 "2009-11-22T07:26:56Z")

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> [@TWDuke](#):
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> **Titantic** could have been a great 90-minute guy flick. Unfortunately, it was swamped by 100 minutes of chick flick.

Try _A Night To Remember_, which was made in 1958. So yes, it’s in Black & White, but it’s all very Stiff Upper Lip and has “before they were famous” cameos by Sean Connery and Desmond Llewellyn.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughters-boyfriend-needs-to-turn-in-his-man-card/518297/57 "2009-11-23T21:39:38Z")

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> [@BlinkingDuck](#):
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> This time she has a boyfriend…so he needs to do his boyfriendly duty and take her.  
> …  
> Turn in your man card dude!

This is simply a tit for tat.

… and tat is seeing the new Twilight Movie.

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**Author:** ![The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_In_Black)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughters-boyfriend-needs-to-turn-in-his-man-card/518297/58 "2009-11-23T21:49:22Z")

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> [@TWDuke](#):
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> One thing Cafe Society has taught me is that there are really are a lot of people who think a trailer accurately reflects the tone and content of a film. So, yeah, he could have the idea that it’s going to be about a bunch of monsters fighting each other.

I second this. The first trailer I saw for it made me think the movie looked like an action movie. Or at least had enough action in it. But then I looked on message boards, and found out what the movie really is.

I assumed a movie with vampires and wearwolves must be good. Thank God I looked into it and didn’t actually go and see it.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughters-boyfriend-needs-to-turn-in-his-man-card/518297/59 "2009-11-24T20:17:22Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> It had Kate Winslet’s bosom _ **and half of it was sinking the freaking Titanic in real time!** _ What more does a movie need?

Dinosaurs, nazis and swords.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-daughters-boyfriend-needs-to-turn-in-his-man-card/518297/60 "2009-11-24T20:33:40Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> Come on, admit it: Titanic would have been a much better movie had the titular ship turned into a giant robot and torn the iceberg apart by hand, then headed to Europe and won World War 1 six years ahead of schedule.

I would like to green-light your project. I will call it “Mantanic”.

> [@Johnny Q](#):
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> As I recall a jealous man “accidentally” knocks his friend into a wood chipper or a wine press or an industrial grinding unit or some such. The guy in the process of being pulped does everything in his power to convince the guy who pulped him that the feeling is the most exquisite pleasure that anyone could ever hope to experience. In the normal way these stories go, the jealous guy eventually finds himself in a similar situation and discovers the truth: Being pulped hurts like a motherfucker.

I would still rather go with the pulping.

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