# My Dogs Pick an NCAA Bracket

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 15, 2011, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-dogs-pick-an-ncaa-bracket/574820 "2011-03-15T18:26:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-dogs-pick-an-ncaa-bracket/574820/1 "2011-03-15T18:26:51Z")

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[Tilly](https://picasaweb.google.com/110426601802221618441/Mar152011#5584372065187325346) and [Toby](https://picasaweb.google.com/110426601802221618441/Mar152011#5584372066149689618), the wondermutts, have decided they wanted to join in on the March Madness fun. So I decided to set up a bracket for them. With little else but a bracket and a bucket of treats, I’ve slowly been filling out a bracket with them.

Not wanting to make things absolutely impossible, I gave them the single handicap of giving the #1 seeds a first round automatic win - everything else is up to them to decide. So far, we’re through 3 of the 4 regions, which I’ll break down.

**EAST  
Round of 64**  
1/16: Ohio St. (automatic)  
8/9: George Mason over Villanova  
5/12: UAB/Clemson over West Virginia  
4/13: Kentucky over Princeton  
6/11: Xavier over Marquette  
3/14: Indiana State over Syracuse  
7/10: Washington over Georgia (they were unhappy about picking the Bulldogs to lose, but were relieved to hear that they picked the Huskies to win)  
2/15: Long Island over North Carolina

**Round of 32**  
1/8: Ohio St. over George Mason  
4/12: Kentucky over UAB/Clemson  
6/14: Xavier over Indiana State  
7/15: Long Island over Washington

**Sweet Sixteen**  
1/4: Ohio St. over Kentucky  
6/15: Long Island over Xavier

**Elite Eight**  
1/15: Ohio St. over Long Island

**WEST  
Round of 64**  
1/16: Duke over Hampton (automatic win)  
8/9: Michigan over Tennessee  
5/12: Arizona over Memphis  
4/13: Oakland over Texas  
6/11: Cincinnati over Missouri  
3/14: Bucknell over UConn  
7/10: Temple over Penn State  
2/15: SDSU over Northern Colorado

**Round of 32**  
1/8: Duke over Michigan  
5/13: Oakland over Arizona  
6/14: Bucknell over Cincinnati  
2/7: Temple over SDSU

**Sweet Sixteen**  
1/13: Oakland over Duke  
7/14: Bucknell over Temple

**Elite Eight**  
13/14: Bucknell over Oakland!

**SOUTHWEST  
Round of 64**  
1/16: KU over Boston U.  
8/9: UNLV over Illinois  
5/12: Richmond over Vanderbilt  
4/13: Louisville over Morehead St.  
6/11: USC/VCU over Georgetown  
3/14: Purdue over St. Peter’s  
7/10: Florida St. over Texas A&M  
2/15: Akron over Notre Dame (Toby just about got disowned on that one)

**Round of 32**  
1/8: UNLV over KU  
4/12: Richmond over Louisville  
3/11: Purdue over USC/VCU  
10/15: Akron over Florida St.

**Sweet Sixteen**  
8/12: UNLV over Richmond  
3/15: Akron over Purdue

**Elite Eight**  
8/15: Akron over UNLV

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-dogs-pick-an-ncaa-bracket/574820/2 "2011-03-15T18:30:48Z")

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The Southeast will have to wait until tomorrow - I don’t want to load them up too much on treats. (Last night’s gas was pretty potent.)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-dogs-pick-an-ncaa-bracket/574820/3 "2011-03-15T18:32:25Z")

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Eh, I’ve made worse-looking brackets. WTG Tilly and Toby!

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**Author:** ![TravisFromOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@TravisFromOR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TravisFromOR)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-dogs-pick-an-ncaa-bracket/574820/4 "2011-03-15T18:37:34Z")

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Hopefully we’ll see you on Letterman with your amazingly famous dogs!

😃

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-dogs-pick-an-ncaa-bracket/574820/5 "2011-03-15T21:17:23Z")

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So how do they make their choices? and what happens if Tilly and Toby disagree? Alpha-dog has 51% of the vote?

edit: Toby looks like he might be a good handicappers if you were racing beetles!

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-dogs-pick-an-ncaa-bracket/574820/6 "2011-03-15T22:30:08Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> [Tilly](https://picasaweb.google.com/110426601802221618441/Mar152011#5584372065187325346) and [Toby](https://picasaweb.google.com/110426601802221618441/Mar152011#5584372066149689618), the wondermutts

Your Toby reminds me of my Rusty: [http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp360/sgenetti77/Rusty005.jpg](http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp360/sgenetti77/Rusty005.jpg)  
who sometimes winks: [http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp360/sgenetti77/Rusty008.jpg](http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp360/sgenetti77/Rusty008.jpg) but never picks basketball brackets!

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-dogs-pick-an-ncaa-bracket/574820/7 "2011-03-16T01:49:00Z")

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> 8/9: George Mason over Villanova

What have they got against cats? As a Villanova alum, I must protest this one.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-dogs-pick-an-ncaa-bracket/574820/8 "2011-03-16T02:09:54Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> So how do they make their choices? and what happens if Tilly and Toby disagree? Alpha-dog has 51% of the vote?
> 
> edit: Toby looks like he might be a good handicappers if you were racing beetles!

I alternate between dogs, giving one of them the option of two treats. Left hand is Team A, right hand is Team B. I of course tell them which specific team they’re picking though.

There were a few instances where Tilly felt extremely strongly about a pick Toby was supposed to make, and made the decision for him.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-dogs-pick-an-ncaa-bracket/574820/9 "2011-03-16T02:19:40Z")

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So Tilly is Alpha Dog?

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-dogs-pick-an-ncaa-bracket/574820/10 "2011-03-16T02:38:39Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> I alternate between dogs, giving one of them the option of two treats. Left hand is Team A, right hand is Team B. I of course tell them which specific team they’re picking though.
> 
> There were a few instances where Tilly felt extremely strongly about a pick Toby was supposed to make, and made the decision for him.

If you want to enter Tilly and Toby in the Yahoo $1M perfect pick prize, I can give you a league number and password…

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-dogs-pick-an-ncaa-bracket/574820/11 "2011-03-16T03:14:01Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> So Tilly is Alpha Dog?

Oh yeah. Toby has probably 15 lbs on her, but he’s a big softy who doesn’t know how to wrestle. He leads with his butt. Tilly’s a friggin’ tactical jetfighter fueled by tiger blood.

> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> If you want to enter Tilly and Toby in the Yahoo $1M perfect pick prize, I can give you a league number and password…

Already there. I started up a bracket tourney with my friends, and put that in there to shame them.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-dogs-pick-an-ncaa-bracket/574820/12 "2011-03-16T16:43:15Z")

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Tilly and Toby need to get the last bracket in soonest… Hopefully, **Munch** can find some low-gas treats for them. 😃

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-dogs-pick-an-ncaa-bracket/574820/13 "2011-03-16T17:29:25Z")

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**SOUTHWEST  
Round of 64**  
1/16: Pitt over UNCA  
8/9: Butler over Old Dominion (go Bulldogs!)  
5/12: K-State over Utah St.  
4/13: Bellmont over Wisconsin (Toby really tends to vote for chalk, but this one gave him some serious paws…)  
6/11: St. John’s over Gonzaga  
3/14: BYU over Wofford (two anti-canine picks in a row…)  
7/10: Michigan St. over UCLA  
2/15: UCSB over Florida (go Gauchos!)

**Round of 32**  
1/8: Butler over Pitt  
5/13: K-State over Bellmont  
3/6: BYU over St. John’s  
10/15: Michigan St. over UCSB

**Sweet Sixteen**  
5/8: K-State over Butler  
3/10: BYU over Michigan St.

**Elite Eight**  
8/15: BYU over K-State

**FINAL FOUR**  
Bucknell over Ohio St.  
BYU over Akron

**2011 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS  
BYU over Bucknell**

I guess they were more focused on the horn-dog aspect of BYU than the Cougar mascot…

Any ideas on how to come up with a tiebreaker score? Or can I safely assume I’m the only one with a final four of Bucknell, Ohio St. BYU and Akron?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-dogs-pick-an-ncaa-bracket/574820/14 "2011-03-16T19:41:35Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> I guess they were more focused on the horn-dog aspect of BYU than the Cougar mascot…
> 
> Any ideas on how to come up with a tiebreaker score? Or can I safely assume I’m the only one with a final four of Bucknell, Ohio St. BYU and Akron?

… er… :o

No, you can probably safely assume that. 😉

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**Author:** ![Spit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Spit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spit)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-dogs-pick-an-ncaa-bracket/574820/15 "2011-03-17T20:14:49Z")

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Man, I was really hoping they would choose the **Buckeyes**. I like the **Buckeyes**. FWIW, I picked The Richmond Spiders to go to the Sweet 16 as well in one of my brackets (Hometown favorites), so we could be laughing (and barking) over some tasty buckeyes.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-dogs-pick-an-ncaa-bracket/574820/16 "2011-03-18T00:43:53Z")

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ooops wrong thread. nevermind

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-dogs-pick-an-ncaa-bracket/574820/17 "2011-03-21T13:34:34Z")

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How did the first round treat the wondermutts?

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-dogs-pick-an-ncaa-bracket/574820/18 "2011-03-21T15:40:22Z")

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Well, BYU and Ohio State are still alive - so that’s good. Of the Sweet 16, they have 6 of them. Not great. In my pool, they’re 2nd to last in points. But in potential points, there are 15 teams below them (out of 34) - there’s a bunch of Notre Dame and Purdue fans in the group.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-dogs-pick-an-ncaa-bracket/574820/19 "2011-03-21T15:47:28Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Well, BYU and Ohio State are still alive - so that’s good. Of the Sweet 16, they have 6 of them. Not great. In my pool, they’re 2nd to last in points. But in potential points, there are 15 teams below them (out of 34) - there’s a bunch of Notre Dame and Purdue fans in the group.

They did a great job in the Southeast region. Go Butler!

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-dogs-pick-an-ncaa-bracket/574820/20 "2011-03-21T15:50:14Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> They did a great job in the Southeast region. Go Butler!

Unfortunately, so did a bunch of other people in my pool. Living in Indy doesn’t make a Butler pick very sexy…
