Okay, so you’re saying McCain can deliver a good, inspiring, scripted speech. Wow, it’s as if he’s been a politician for a really, really long time.
I have been more alarmed by McCain’s unscripted moves. Selecting Palin without much of a vetting process, suspending his campaign to deal with an economic crisis when his own party didn’t want him there, the problems with his campaign, etc. I’m not convinced he’s an effective leader with good judgment under pressure.
Even the debates, which are presumably less scripted than his stump speech, he performed poorly. With 20 years of political experience!
Meh, **Weirddave’s **post is more about how scary Obama is than how great McCain is, so I’d say it captures the McCain rally “experience” pretty accurately.
**Weirddave **take this from someone that respects John McCain very much, that knows he is a good speaker and even voted for him in the primary as by far the best candidate in the Republican field (Rudy having shown he was in no way, shape or form ready for the office by his truly terrible campaigning.)
Somehow, someway you have missed Obama’s message. You have missed the details and how he is a really excellent speaker. After Bush, Gore and Kerry we have two men running that are both much better speakers than those last three candidates.
Hell if you had watch Obama’s 7 channel infomercial the other night I think you would be willing to admit that he is a very good speaker indeed.
BTW: How do you feel about Palin? I don’t remember if that came up when we were talking at Gettysburg.
At the Obama rally I attended in Kansas City, one of the folks I was standing next to was a retired newspaper reporter. He was a registered Independent, and had voted for both Republicans and Democrats. But the most interesting bit was that he knew John McCain because they both stationed on the Forrestal during the Vietnam War, and are members of the Forrestal Association. He says McCain is a great guy, and considers him a friend - but he thinks he’s the wrong choice for President at this time.
Monstro, you should be a baseball fan and sit in the cheap seats. You get almost exactly the same vibe. In fact that is why a few years ago my ticket plan was for the Right Field Bleachers at Yankee Stadium. There is a great vibe in people of all ages, from all walks of life gathered together and rooting for the same thing. I never thought about it from the political side before, but then few politicians have ever inspired me.
By the way, does Ginger know what you’re saying about her kid here? Because if I said stuff like that about my stepkids on a message board–well, I wouldn’t, because I’m not you–my wife would be rightly pissed.
I’m thinking Dave doesn’t mean that like it sounds - it’s hyperbole. I know that if my husband were to “rag on” my kids all the time he would soon find himself wifeless.
Hey Duke, he’s not my stepkid, he’s my kid. And he’s an idiot. He’s 14, it’s endemic. But thanks for your concern, really, I appreciate it. I’ll be sure to tell my wife to read this thread, so she can see what a shit I am, as defined by Duke.
As for the rest of you…it looks like you’re going to get your way. And that’s fine, that’s what a democratic republic is all about. But despite my post, my fears about Obama aren’t really about him, the speaker, the man, they are about what he says he wants to do, and what he will be able to do with a supermajority in congress. Y’all can laugh, mock, spit, tease, whatever at me. I don’t mind, knock yourselves out. Mark my words, however. Assuming Obama wins, 4 years down the road when we as a country wise up and finally throw him out on his socialist ass, we’ll be in much worse shape than we are now. Double digit inflation and unemployment. Stagnant economy. Diminished influence in the world, more at the mercy of China who is salivating at the chance to finance Obama’s insane desire to accelerate Bush’s attempt to spend us into bankruptcy. By any measure I think Obama is going to hurt the USA, and hurt us badly.
And if I’m wrong? GREAT! I’ve never so wanted to be wrong about anything in my life. Mock me, ridicule me, make small children tease me on the streets. It will be a relief. Start threads about my foolish pessimism, call me a partisan wanker, throw eggs at my house. Knock yourself out. Bookmark this thread so you can rub my nose in it it. I will be happy to be wrong.
i’m glad y’all had a good time at the rally. it’s great that your sons saw the campaign up close and personal.
i do have to agree with ginger of the north. it would be a lot better if there was a time limit and money limit for election running.
take the little guy voting with you. i loved going to the polls with my parents as a wee kid. they had a nifty little mini poll thing for us to vote on while our parents voted on the big machines.
Interestingly, there’s a piece posted today on Salon.com about the rally featured in the OP, titled McCain Gets Mean (watch an ad for a free sitepass).
Not too dissimilar, but with a decidedly different slant.
This reminds me of the lady who told me at work the other day, “Mark my words: if Obama wins on Tuesday, the blacks will riot in the streets and take over everything. He will sell our country to the terrorists and force everybody to read the Koran every day. Mark my words!”
I just wonder if you people can take yourselves seriously when you spout such ridiculous bullshit. No matter what your personal political ideology. Mark my words? Shouldn’t you be selling your services to Miss Cleo or something? And you expect people to take you seriously after shit like “Obama’s insane desire to accelerate Bush’s attempt to spend us into bankruptcy” and then “oh, but I hope I’m wrong!”.