# My first pit thread: SenorBeef **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 8, 2019, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208 "2019-06-08T12:09:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208/21 "2019-06-08T16:27:45Z")
**Ronald** , you did good. Outstanding pitting. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208/22 "2019-06-08T16:33:42Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > He uses the right wing slur “identity politics” rather than the real term that isn’t controversial. The term is often used in a pejorative context, but not always; and the fact that a word may sometimes be used by right wing assholes doesn’t make it a “right wing slur” that we must all avoid. Are you suggesting that this Wikipedia article describing what it means was written by Ben Shapiro? I see not reason not to use it when appropriate. > **[Identity politics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_politics)** > > Identity politics is politics based on a particular identity, such as race, nationality, religion, gender, sexual orientation, social background, caste, and social class. The term could also encompass other social phenomena which are not commonly understood as exemplifying identity politics, such as governmental migration policy that regulates mobility based on identities, or far-right nationalist agendas of exclusion of national or ethnic others. For this reason, Kurzwelly, Pérez and Spiegel Th... I don’t even know what you think the “real term that isn’t controversial” is supposed to be. ETA: I fully endorse the rest of this pitting of SenorBeef, of course, please excuse the minor aside. ---
**Author:** ![DummyGladHands](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/49beb7/32.png) [@DummyGladHands](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DummyGladHands)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208/23 "2019-06-08T16:39:08Z")
What Sunny et. al. say- outstanding ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208/24 "2019-06-08T17:18:09Z")
9.7 ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208/25 "2019-06-08T17:20:53Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Pittee is one, and this goes for all of them: Anyone who thinks that it is the Democrats who are hung up on which bathrooms people use is wrong, fucking wrong, to put it in the most charitable terms. Yep. It would be hilarious, if it weren’t so frightening and depressing, that the phrase ‘identity politics’ is invariably spat at the people whose platform is ‘everybody has the same rights’, because they frequently have to say ‘yes, including them’ because the people who are ‘focused on what’s important’ are constantly trying to take rights away from people based on gender, sexual preference, religion, etc… Keep it up, Ronnie, you’re good people. ---
**Author:** ![DummyGladHands](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/49beb7/32.png) [@DummyGladHands](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DummyGladHands)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208/26 "2019-06-08T17:26:14Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > 9.7 Fucking Taliban judge. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208/27 "2019-06-08T17:32:16Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > **Ronald** , you did good. Outstanding pitting. Absolutely. Well done! ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208/28 "2019-06-08T17:34:54Z")
Ron didn’t waste time, either. The first good shot was delivered in the first line. > [@](#): > > You can “probably” go fuck your hat. Classic. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208/29 "2019-06-08T17:35:06Z")
> [@DummyGladHands](#): > > Fucking Taliban judge. It’s the beard, I’ll bet. I haven’t given a pit thread a score above 9.5 in over three years. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208/30 "2019-06-08T20:19:27Z")
Great writing, great attitude, great targeting. I’d go into more detail, but have to go trim these toenails. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208/31 "2019-06-08T20:34:04Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Originally Posted by Sunny Daze > Ronald, you did good. Outstanding pitting. > Absolutely. Well done! OK. I’ve come around. Still, I keep reminding all y’all how important it is to win an election, even if it’s just for Boring Booker or Blithesome Biden. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208/32 "2019-06-08T20:44:23Z")
> [@Ronald\_Raygun](#): > > LOL oh shit. > > In my defense, being cast aside by some disgusting utilitarian calculus due to a condition that I’ve desperately tried to wish away since childhood makes me Very Angry. [Moderating] Don’t sweat it. You’re entirely inside of bounds here. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208/33 "2019-06-08T20:48:23Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I supported **SenorBeef** in that thread, so I submit to having my balls licked also. Send a gorgeous lesbian please. Airfare not included. > > What you have to ask yourself is: > Would you like to have Trump running the White House until 2024, with a McConnell Senate? – Trannie haters, every one? > Or > Would you rather have the D’s back in charge, albeit with some lukewarm on trannie rights? > The coming election is very important for America and the world. It is not a sure thing. > > Before we can start refurbishing the passenger and dining cars, we’ve got to pull this train out of the mud and get it back on the tracks. [Moderating] This, on the other hand, is going to get you a warning. Most things go in the Pit. Racial and sexual slurs do not. Do not do this again. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208/34 "2019-06-08T20:54:38Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Absolutely. Well done! I couldn’t read it. I was laughing so hard at _“Lick my shriveled tranny balls”_ that I had tears in my eyes. ---
**Author:** ![jimmydingo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb9ed0/32.png) [@jimmydingo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimmydingo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208/35 "2019-06-08T20:57:41Z")
I don’t post often, if fact, I’m practically a professional lurker but as someone who struggles with my own gender identity I had to chime in. What the fuck is “fashionably trans”? “SJW/Tumblr/trans community”? That’s “personal experience”? Jebus in a jumped up sidecar what utter fuckin’ horseshit. I don’t give a shit about the political angles here. People are people. Trans, cis. White, black. Gay or straight. Fuck me, sometimes I think that asteroid can’t fuckin’ reset the planet soon enough. Keep up the good fight Charlotte. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208/36 "2019-06-08T21:18:49Z")
> [@Ronald\_Raygun](#): > > … > Lick my shriveled tranny balls. … tranny joke, … > [@Miller](#): > > [Moderating] > This, on the other hand, is going to get you a warning. Most things go in the Pit. Racial and sexual slurs do not. > > Do not do this again. > [/Moderating] I respectfully request that the warning be rescinded. I did not know that ‘tranny’ was offensive. Recall that Bill Clinton was Presdient the last time I visited North America. Almost all the American culture I get is from SDMB! If the inappropriatiateness of this word has been discussed, I missed it. I got involved in this thread for reasons unrelated to any of the gay community. IOW, I did not know that ‘tranny’ – also used by OP one’s-self – was a bad word. _ **I plead ignorance of the law.** _ ETA: Obviously I’m better informed now and will avoid any future use. Apologies to all. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208/37 "2019-06-08T21:34:16Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Just a note, YOU are going to be the one doing the licking, not getting licked, by a lesbian or otherwise. Right. [You are the ones who are the ball lickers.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9agFtqFv_k%5B/url) ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208/38 "2019-06-08T21:52:53Z")
Well deserved, but points off for having an easy target. I mean who couldn’t dunk on the quotes you had to work with there? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2019, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208/39 "2019-06-09T00:02:34Z")
Primo pitting, **Ronald**. But I like Tarantino movies. ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208/40 "2019-06-09T00:33:15Z")
Excellent pitting. One small quibble: the term “identity politics” is not just used by right-wingers. Bernie Sanders, for example, has used it unironically on a number of occasions, such as [Bernie Sanders — and many Democrats — keep confusing identity politics with tokenism - Vox](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/23/13715164/bernie-sanders-identity-politics-democrats-progressives). Which leads me to observe that a left-of-center candidate who wins lots of votes from the demographic known as “women” is practicing “identity politics,” and a left-of-center candidate who wins lots of votes from the demographic known as “African Americans” is practicing “identity politics,” and a left-of-center candidate who wins lots of votes from the demographic called “Hispanics” is practicing “identity politics,” and left-of-center candidates who win lots of votes from the demographic groups called “gay people” or “trans people” are practicing “identity politics.” BUT a left-of-center candidate whose votes come primarily from the demographic consisting of “straight white men” (Hi, Bernie!) is NOT practicing “identity politics.” Someday maybe we’ll recognize how bizarre this is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pit-thread-senorbeef/835208.md?page=3)