# My first pitting:  Nickels

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pitting-nickels/268364>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 9, 2004, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pitting-nickels/268364 "2004-10-09T14:49:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shirt\_Ninja\_13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@Shirt\_Ninja\_13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirt_Ninja_13)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pitting-nickels/268364/1 "2004-10-09T14:49:00Z")

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I’ve never done this before, so please forgive me if I slip up a bit.

I have an irrational annoyance with American five-cent pieces: nickels, if you will. Rotten, silly things, those. I don’t like them at all, and think they are stupid, in general. Pennies, at least, are lucky (some would say…if they’re heads-up when you find them, at least), dimes don’t suck overly much, and quarters are still worth picking up (mm…gumball machines…), but nickels? I mean, sure you could fill up a tube-sock with a bunch of them and all of a sudden you’ve got something like a club, but still. I can’t stand them. The thought of them doesn’t make me violently angry, or anything, but I try to avoid them whenever possible. There’s no childhood trauma associated with them, or anything, either; I just think they’re dumb.

Does anyone else hate anything that sounds this silly?  
_bamf_

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pitting-nickels/268364/2 "2004-10-09T14:59:16Z")

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> Does anyone else hate anything that sounds this silly?

Truly pointless pittings?

- ::: g, d, & r ::: \*

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**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pitting-nickels/268364/3 "2004-10-09T15:16:58Z")

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You’re pitting nickels?!?!?!

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pitting-nickels/268364/4 "2004-10-09T15:32:07Z")

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“I’ll bet you’d like to have a nose like _that_ full of nickels.”

– Mother to small child, from a forgotten (by me) W.C. Fields film

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pitting-nickels/268364/5 "2004-10-09T15:32:39Z")

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You get a lot of US nickels over tehre in China, do you? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![harmless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/2acd7d/32.png) [@harmless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmless)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pitting-nickels/268364/6 "2004-10-09T16:09:41Z")

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> [@Shirt Ninja 13](#):
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> Does anyone else hate anything that sounds this silly?  
> _bamf_

Yeah - **zopp**  
Really gets on my nerves.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pitting-nickels/268364/7 "2004-10-09T16:31:20Z")

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I don’t mind nickels, but I hate twenty-dollar bills. When I have to carry them in my wallet, I console myself by remembering that I’m sitting on the bastard’s face.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pitting-nickels/268364/8 "2004-10-09T16:34:12Z")

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I still have no idea how that motherfucker ended up on the $20, **Liberal**. But if it helps, try carrying the bills with the portraits facing each other. Then it’s like they’re kissing.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pitting-nickels/268364/9 "2004-10-09T17:18:27Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> I still have no idea how that motherfucker ended up on the $20, **Liberal**.

Because his shutting down of the National Bank and decentralization of the banking system led to the growth of state and private banks and the creation of the modern banking system in the US.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pitting-nickels/268364/10 "2004-10-09T18:04:34Z")

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Except for quarters, I hate all change. It’s bulky, noisy, and just not as easy to use as bills or plastic. I get rid of it all the first chance I get.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pitting-nickels/268364/11 "2004-10-09T18:07:27Z")

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> [@Captain Amazing](#):
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> Because his shutting down of the National Bank and decentralization of the banking system led to the growth of state and private banks and the creation of the modern banking system in the US.

Yeah, but the reason he did it was because he hated Nicholas Biddle and was jealous of the fortunes of entrepreneurs. It was the right thing to do, but he stumbled into it like a blind pig into the trough. Only revisionists credit him with some sort of quasi-libertarian ideology that he cleary did not have. Freedom loving men don’t drive people out of their homes by force and march them a thousand miles across mountains through the snow, murdering women and children along the way. “A tree is known by its fruit.” — Jesus

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**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pitting-nickels/268364/12 "2004-10-09T18:11:13Z")

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Damn pesky moneys, they get in the way of everything! :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pitting-nickels/268364/13 "2004-10-09T19:10:34Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> Yeah, but the reason he did it was because he hated Nicholas Biddle and was jealous of the fortunes of entrepreneurs. It was the right thing to do, but he stumbled into it like a blind pig into the trough. Only revisionists credit him with some sort of quasi-libertarian ideology that he cleary did not have. Freedom loving men don’t drive people out of their homes by force and march them a thousand miles across mountains through the snow, murdering women and children along the way. “A tree is known by its fruit.” — Jesus

A few points.

First, I’m not going to speculate on why he did it, or even on whether or not his doing it was a good thing. But he did do it.

And second, Jackson wasn’t the only one to “drive people out of their homes by force and march them a thousand miles across mountains through the snow, murdering women and children along the way.” The Cherokee Removal didn’t happen until 1838, as you well know, and Jackson wasn’t president at that point. Martin Van Buren was, and it was Van Buren who drove people out of their homes by force…

Of course, Jackson approved of the removal, and the trail of tears, and he was a racist and a bigot, who believed that only white people should have rights. But he also wasn’t the only one responsible for it happening, and he wasn’t even the one who caused it to happen. The Cherokee had been forced to sign treaties ceding land 24 times between 1794-1819, and in 1819, the Cherokee nation was only half as large as it was in 1794. I understand you don’t like Jackson, and I don’t blame you for disliking him, but he also doesn’t deserve sole blame for that.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pitting-nickels/268364/14 "2004-10-09T20:17:41Z")

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> [@Captain Amazing](#):
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> Of course, Jackson approved of the removal, and the trail of tears, and he was a racist and a bigot, who believed that only white people should have rights. But he also wasn’t the only one responsible for it happening, and he wasn’t even the one who caused it to happen. The Cherokee had been forced to sign treaties ceding land 24 times between 1794-1819, and in 1819, the Cherokee nation was only half as large as it was in 1794.

Don’t worry, I’m not letting anyone else off the hook either, but Indian Hater Jackson had more than just a substantial role. At least those before him, for forty years, had honored the treaties they made, even though they were largely coerced. And there was nothing near the mass exodus of Jackson’s holocaust. It belongs to him because he is the one who fought to make it happen. Ten years before becoming president, he began to advocate Indian removal. And upon taking office, he pushed through his Indian Removal Act. When the Supreme Court struck it down, his response was basically that it was none of the court’s business. Under his leadership, Congress completely reversed the way it had dealt with Indians before, and peaceful productive Indians began to be seen as some sort of problem in need of a solution. It is difficult to find in history a greater hubris than that of the Indian Hater in his 1830 State of the Union address:

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> And is it supposed that the wandering savage has a stronger attachment to his home than the settled, civilized Christian? Is it more afflicting to him to leave the graves of his fathers than it is to our brothers and children? Rightly considered, the policy of the General Government toward the red man is not only liberal, but generous. He is unwilling to submit to the laws of the States and mingle with their population. To save him from this alternative, or perhaps utter annihilation, the General Government kindly offers him a new home, and proposes to pay the whole expense of his removal and settlement.

Due respect, but no revisionist is going to convince me of any latent altruism in this monster. His record is his record, and now he’s dead.

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**Author:** ![Ruby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/13edae/32.png) [@Ruby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruby)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pitting-nickels/268364/15 "2004-10-09T20:42:21Z")

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What’s wrong with you people. Can’t you stay on topic. This is a _NICKLE PITTING_ ferchrissakes.  
😛

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> Does anyone else hate anything that sounds this silly?

Oh yeah, people who use smilies in the Pit.  
😃

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**Author:** ![harmless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/2acd7d/32.png) [@harmless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmless)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pitting-nickels/268364/16 "2004-10-09T20:48:08Z")

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> [@Ruby](#):
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> What’s wrong with you people. Can’t you stay on topic. This is a _NICKLE PITTING_ ferchrissakes.  
> 😛

You’re right, so why are you offering your two cent?

> [@Ruby](#):
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> Oh yeah, people who use smilies in the Pit.  
> 😃

😉

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pitting-nickels/268364/17 "2004-10-09T21:47:20Z")

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> [@Ruby](#):
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> Can’t you stay on topic.

Some people apparently have reading comprehension problems.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2004, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pitting-nickels/268364/18 "2004-10-09T22:09:53Z")

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Okay, sorry. If the topic is reading comprehension, I’ll say that I favor it.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2004, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pitting-nickels/268364/19 "2004-10-10T00:06:17Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> Okay, sorry. If the topic is reading comprehension, I’ll say that I favor it.

Fuck that. The SMDB hamsters would have hell of a lot less to do if something as radical as “reading comphrension” became widespread. And I’m all for making the little buggers work!  
😛

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2004, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-first-pitting-nickels/268364/20 "2004-10-10T01:26:22Z")

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> [@Ukulele Ike](#):
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> “I’ll bet you’d like to have a nose like _that_ full of nickels.”
> 
> – Mother to small child, from a forgotten (by me) W.C. Fields film

_The Bank Dick_ (1940). Great movie.

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