# My friend has gone over the edge into Trumpdom

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 22, 2019, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123 "2019-10-22T07:11:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/181 "2019-10-28T19:14:57Z")

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> [@HarleyQuinn](#):
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> I couldn’t agree with you more.

Get back to 8chan, you clever clever troll.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/182 "2019-10-28T20:23:10Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> Its funny because I agree that racists are bad, but the issue is that you dumb-dumbs call everything and everyone racist and have completely nullified the meaning of the word. You use your own criteria for delegating the racist tag to someone and then use that tag to justify any venom you want to spew such as the bolded above.
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> You dont get to decide and are not the arbiter of who and what is racist.

Hmm? No, O Lacker Of Reading Comprehension, I was simply calling trolls who have so few morals that they’ll parrot racist canards in order to troll the scum of the earth. It’s not really that complicated.

And, really, there isn’t a single person who actually thinks that liberals should be tolerant of hatred, racism, and bigotry. Not even the trumpists, racists, and bigots that spout that shit. It’s all trollery, of the most brainless, immoral order. No decent person says that, because decent people don’t spew moronic venom crafted specifically to make other people angry.

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**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/183 "2019-10-28T20:33:01Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Dude, just relax - no one wants your dick. No one is going to sneak up on you while you’re asleep and cut it off. Don’t let your castration anxiety do the typing.

How many people carrying magnifying glasses with them regularly?

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/184 "2019-10-29T01:44:41Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> We’re in the 1930s; this is America’s foray into fascism. I don’t see why supposedly intelligent people have their fucking blinders on and cannot see that. This is a national emergency.

Ridiculous.

This water feels fine. It’s no hotter than it was yesterday or the day before. It’s perfect. Come have a swim with us (ribbit).

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/185 "2019-10-29T07:57:53Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> Coming from the same party whose people cut off their own private parts and take hormones to grow tits

😕 Who cares if responsible adults decide, with medical approval and for medically sound reasons, to cut off their own private parts or take hormones to grow tits? What ever happened to the supposed Republican principle of minding one’s own business and not encouraging the government to meddle in the private lives of individuals?

> [@Annoyed](#):
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> and openly want to be able to do the same to children

Liar. (Or possibly just stupid ignoramus, but most probably liar.) Sex reassignment surgery is not available to transgender people until they reach legal adulthood, and Democrats are not in any way advocating to change that sensible policy.

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**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/186 "2019-10-29T11:45:09Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Liar. (Or possibly just stupid ignoramus, but most probably liar.) Sex reassignment surgery is not available to transgender people until they reach legal adulthood, and Democrats are not in any way advocating to change that sensible policy.

You don’t understand words very well, do you.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/187 "2019-10-29T15:19:28Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> … What ever happened to the supposed Republican principle of minding one’s own business and not encouraging the government to meddle in the private lives of individuals?..

It’s a damn lie. It was always a damn lie. But you already know that.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/188 "2019-10-29T15:24:54Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> You don’t understand words very well, do you.

Well, now I just feel sorry for you.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/189 "2019-10-29T18:41:35Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> That guy who makes the videos on Alt-right tactics just released a video on this: how a normie with just slightly unusual views or nerdy interests can become radicalized by the alt right. It’s pretty informative of how you can wind up so far down the rabbit hole.
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> He talks about it like a redpill onion, where you go in layers, thinking that each layer is as deep as it goes, and how each one makes it so hard to look back and see that you might be mistaken. I'd known some of the ideas there, but it made things a lot more clear.

Interesting video (though I watched only about half). And frightening.

The image of onion layers is especially interesting. I think we’ve watched **octopus** go deeper in recent years. OTOH, a **Gabe octopus** would have rejected SDMB by now, no? Perhaps **octopus** still has some inner rationalist, hiding but asking for help.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/190 "2019-10-29T22:36:48Z")

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> [@margin](#):
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> Watching Trumper criticize somebody else for lack of morals is like watching a whorehouse madam criticize somebody else for promiscuity.

rofl

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/191 "2019-10-29T22:55:57Z")

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> [@margin](#):
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> …being iflgnorabt…

As soon as I can learn to pronounce it, I am so stealing this word. Brilliant. 😃

And folks, Annoyed is just yanking ya chains, and every time one of you responds to it, it jizzes all over the grimy and crusty sheets that came with his mum’s basement. Even SHE won’t venture down there to tend to her unfortunate offspring.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/192 "2019-10-30T08:32:39Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Interesting video (though I watched only about half). And frightening.

In the end there’s a silver lining, though. He points out that, while it’s easier than ever to be radicalized, it’s also easier than ever to be deradicalized. There are even communities devoted to it, who provide a safe space to let them be awful for a while, giving them time to learn. And there’s also talk about how it’s best dealt with friends and coworkers who, rather than challenge them directly, challenge their assumptions indirectly.

**octopus** also isn’t really the poster I thought about when watching it. Maybe he’s more conservative than he used to be, but there is a poster who is worse, while seemingly oblivious to it. But, since they haven’t participated in this thread, I don’t want to call them out here. (Though they do like informative videos, so I hoped they’d check it out.)

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/193 "2019-10-30T09:29:10Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> Coming from the same party whose people cut off their own private parts and take hormones to grow tits, and openly want to be able to do the same to children.

You people want to promote known degenerate Milo to the public spotlight.

Time was… ah, but I guess you can’t just say they’re life unworthy of life anymore, eh? No, the modern right wing has to find common cause with the Röhms instead of doing what used to come naturally to the right-thinking people. You have no more guts than a hummingbird, just lolling around letting the Milos in your ranks take liberties with your children. Ah, but Trump was on the Loli Express too, so that proves why you’re attracted to the party: You think you’ll get a taste. Never going to happen, but you can dream, can’t you?

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