# My friend has gone over the edge into Trumpdom

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 22, 2019, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123 "2019-10-22T07:11:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/61 "2019-10-22T21:05:59Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Huh? The “nobody’s been to the South Pole” is a new one on me. How much traction does that bullshit have?

I couldn’t quite follow her reasoning - either she thought the Earth was flat, or that there was some giant barrier that prevented people from getting to the South Pole.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/62 "2019-10-22T21:44:32Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Trumpism isn’t about brains or intellect. It’s about grievance and a sense of personal failure. That’s the common thread Trumpists have running through them. It’s that they identify with Trump himself: A man given every advantage, yet inside, he believes he is an utter failure in life. And Trump gives them an out: “It’s not your fault. It’s fill-in-the-blank’s fault.” The ultimate Whataboutism. Trump’s go-to strategy: “I’m not the puppet!! _You’re_ the puppet!!”

That seems right, but I think you need to add the single-issue anti-abortion folks. They’ll put up with just about anything if it lets another little baby come into the world.

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**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/63 "2019-10-22T22:36:05Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> (Bolding mine.)
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> **Annoyed** has inadvertently done us a favor by neatly illustrating a fundamental difference between the majority of people on the right and left. Namely: for some unfathomable reason, the right wing takes childish delight in irritating people on the left. It’s obviously a deliberate strategy done for no other reason than to enjoy the distress of others.
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> As for me - and the evidence suggests that most progressive types are of a similar bent - I really don’t have the least bit of desire to enrage people on the right sheerly for the joy of seeing their blood pressure rise. Sure, if their irritation is a side-effect of a policy I favor being implemented, or of incontrovertible evidence coming to light proving them wrong, I’m okay with it. But for me the point is the policy or the evidence, not the other person’s anger.
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> I realize self-introspection is largely lacking on both sides of the aisle these days, but if anyone cares to think about it, you might ask yourself whether you take visible delight in riling up the opposition. And if you do, do you think it makes you a better person? Or do you think that people who care more about the issues than about making somone mad for the sadistic pleasure of seeing them suffer might, just _might_, be the ones with a stronger moral compass?

Let me see if I understand you correctly:

Liberals (the most mouthy, degenerate, annoying group of people humanity has ever known) who can never, ever, keep their mouthes shut (and pride themselves for being such) and who openly annoy, pester, harass, and slander people who they consider right-wingers or wrong-thinkers, are NOW all of a sudden gonna sit back all blown away in amazement when they get it back in kind?

You fools are so detached from reality its frankly amazing.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/64 "2019-10-22T22:38:13Z")

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> [@Eonwe](#):
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> **Annoyed** and **octopus** , so I take it you both are basically on board with QAnon, and feel that support for and belief in QAnon’s theories about the current political landscape is reasonable?

Q Anon ??? 😕

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> [@](#):
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> 1. We admitted we were powerless over Q—that our lives had become unmanageable.
> 2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
> 3. …

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/65 "2019-10-22T22:40:54Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> Let me see if I understand you correctly:
> 
> Liberals (the most mouthy, degenerate, annoying group of people humanity has ever known) who can never, ever, keep their mouthes shut (and pride themselves for being such) and who openly annoy, pester, harass, and slander people who they consider right-wingers or wrong-thinkers, are NOW all of a sudden gonna sit back all blown away in amazement when they get it back in kind?
> 
> You fools are so detached from reality its frankly amazing.

Just some friendly advice:

Make them spring for the name brand, it’s worth it.

When your cult tells you to drink, make sure it’s Kool-Aid, rather than the generic Flavor-Aid.

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**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/66 "2019-10-22T22:41:54Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> On the left, it is not intentional that we enrage the right.

Riiiiiiight, you fools just harass people, destroy public property, shut down free speech, riot, and generally melt down unintentionally and definitely not to enrage the right :rolleyes:

> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> When my friends got married a few months ago, they did not do so in order to piss anyone off, but only because they loved each other and wanted to spend the rest of their lives together. That some right wingers got pissed off that they got married isn’t any of their business, nor anything that they are concerned about.

Ok Ill bite, what did someone say that makes you think they are “pissed off” that a gay couple got married?

Were you in Kentucky somewhere burning bibles and throwing dildos at people or something?

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**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/67 "2019-10-22T22:46:44Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Just some friendly advice:
> 
> Make them spring for the name brand, it’s worth it.
> 
> When your cult tells you to drink, make sure it’s Kool-Aid, rather than the generic Flavor-Aid.

You weaklings just can not _stand_ to hear about yourselves. All you do is deflect.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/68 "2019-10-22T22:48:38Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> Riiiiiiight, you fools just harass people, destroy public property, shut down free speech, riot, and generally melt down unintentionally and definitely not to enrage the right :rolleyes:
> 
> Ok Ill bite, what did someone say that makes you think they are “pissed off” that a gay couple got married?
> 
> Were you in Kentucky somewhere burning bibles and throwing dildos at people or something?

Of course she was. She just can’t get it: she’s supposed to THROW the Bibles and BURN the dildos. No wonder they got enraged. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/69 "2019-10-22T22:51:07Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> Let me see if I understand you correctly:
> 
> Liberals (the most mouthy, degenerate, annoying group of people humanity has ever known) who can never, ever, keep their mouthes shut (and pride themselves for being such) and who openly annoy, pester, harass, and slander people who they consider right-wingers or wrong-thinkers, are NOW all of a sudden gonna sit back all blown away in amazement when they get it back in kind?
> 
> You fools are so detached from reality its frankly amazing.

Parody account. Gotta be.

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**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/70 "2019-10-22T22:52:45Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> I’m not one of those politically correct liberals. I’m one of the politically incorrect free speech liberals, you buttfucking snowflake. Go cower in your safe space. My Post was totally fucking gender neutral. I’m sure Hannity doesn’t look too close when a Trump supporter like yourself presents their asshole for a reaming, all he cares about is that liberals hate it. And we do !

Nah you’re a basic bitch liberal with basic bitch insults. I could google “angry liberal lady” and see a thousand of you.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/71 "2019-10-22T23:02:56Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> I’m not one of those politically correct liberals. I’m one of the politically incorrect free speech liberals, you buttfucking snowflake. …

The belief that it’s insensitive and hurtful (hurtful to others, mind you, not necessarily the person you’re addressing) to criticise someone because you believe that there is something shameworthy about buttfucking has nothing to do with politics. Or political correctness, whatever that term loaded with bullshit means. Thanks a whole hell of a lot for this, where i find myself siding with Annoyed, who is a waste of bytes on this board.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/72 "2019-10-22T23:07:58Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> I don’t know anything about Qanon other than a superficial gleaning and don’t care to know any more about it.

Of course you don’t want to know. If you did, you’d know you’re a drooling fucking moron who fired off a response without having any clue what kind of idiocy he was defending, and your infant manbaby ego would collapse.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/73 "2019-10-22T23:08:22Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> The belief that it’s insensitive and hurtful (hurtful to others, mind you, not necessarily the person you’re addressing) to criticise someone because you believe that there is something shameworthy about buttfucking has nothing to do with politics. Or political correctness, whatever that term loaded with bullshit means. Thanks a whole hell of a lot for this, where i find myself siding with Annoyed, who is a waste of bytes on this board.

I take it that when you hear somebody called a fucking idiot, you think that that’s a denigration of everyone who has ever had sex?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/74 "2019-10-22T23:09:16Z")

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Not at all you fucking idiot.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/75 "2019-10-22T23:11:19Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> That seems right, but I think you need to add the single-issue anti-abortion folks. They’ll put up with just about anything if it lets another little baby come into the world.

I agree. There are some of those, too. They don’t care if the whole country burns to the ground so long as a fetus has more rights than a living woman.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/76 "2019-10-22T23:31:15Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Not at all you fucking idiot.

I admit an increasing curiosity about how you think words work.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/77 "2019-10-22T23:32:31Z")

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Man, how did THAT one get by the plonk button?

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**Author:** ![tricoteuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tricoteuse/32/4334_2.png) [@tricoteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tricoteuse)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/78 "2019-10-22T23:33:32Z")

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ThelmaLou while we’re at it I think we should get Annoying onto a few dozen Scientology mailing lists.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/79 "2019-10-23T01:30:07Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> Riiiiiiight, you fools just harass people, destroy public property, shut down free speech, riot, and generally melt down unintentionally and definitely not to enrage the right :rolleyes:

You know people on the Right have actually killed people, right? You know DHS has targeted right-wing violence, right?

> [@](#):
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> Ok Ill bite, what did someone say that makes you think they are “pissed off” that a gay couple got married?

Really? You think nobody is pissed off that gay people are marrying? A “man and a woman” marriage is one of the central tenets of the GOP platform.

You have to be just woefully ignorant, or intentionally obtuse.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/80 "2019-10-23T01:47:46Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> But y’all wanna run down a list of dumbass, retarded shit lefties get in their little pea-brains for balance?

There is not a thing on “the left” that “balances” out with the idiocy of QANON.

> [@Annoyed](#):
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> When the fuck has the left ever been nicey-nicey? They’ve been mouthy unwashed shitbags who **most** people disliked for decades.

“Most” people? Feel free to cite.  
I know that you know, **Annoyed** , that yes - the left has, without question, been the WAY less confrontational, asinine, ignorant and selfish “side” for “decades”. Claiming otherwise is klieg-lighting your trollery.

> [@Annoyed](#):
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> Let me see if I understand you correctly:
> 
> Liberals (the most mouthy, degenerate, annoying group of people humanity has ever known) who can never, ever, keep their mouthes shut (and pride themselves for being such) and who openly annoy, pester, harass, and slander people who they consider right-wingers or wrong-thinkers, are NOW all of a sudden gonna sit back all blown away in amazement when they get it back in kind?
> 
> You fools are so detached from reality its frankly amazing.

As others have already mentioned: more whiney palaver in need of a mirror.

> [@Annoyed](#):
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> Riiiiiiight, you fools just harass people, destroy public property, shut down free speech, riot, and generally melt down unintentionally and definitely not to enrage the right :rolleyes:

More in-need-of-a-mirror trollery.

> [@Annoyed](#):
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> Were you in Kentucky somewhere burning bibles and throwing dildos at people or something?

You see, this sounds like something a fucking creep who (I’d put money on) never gets laid would say.

> [@Annoyed](#):
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> You weaklings just can not _stand_ to hear about yourselves. All you do is deflect.

You mean - we can be bemused by all the horseshit you try to put past us, sure.  
“Weaklings” - yep, typical Trump troll-word.

> [@Annoyed](#):
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> Nah you’re a basic bitch liberal with basic bitch insults. I could google “angry liberal lady” and see a thousand of you.

So we can google “spastically whiney little Trump biatch” and get a cornucopia of you?

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