# My friend has gone over the edge into Trumpdom **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 22, 2019, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123 "2019-10-22T07:11:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/101 "2019-10-23T14:10:28Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I have heard of QAnon but I am too lazy to read anything about it. Is it about deep state stuff? I do believe many institutions are fundamentally self serving. > [@Annoyed](#): > > I don’t know anything about Qanon other than a superficial gleaning and don’t care to know any more about it. > > But y’all wanna run down a list of dumbass, retarded shit lefties get in their little pea-brains for balance? So, when the OP gives what is kind of a vital piece of this story, that her friend is running conventions for Qanon, neither of you actually have any idea what that means. I’d say your opinions here are worth about as much as your admitted understanding of the OP. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/102 "2019-10-23T14:13:15Z")
> [@Eonwe](#): > > I don’t have any idea what your second sentence has to do with my question, or even what it means. What “balance” are you talking about? You make no sense. …and the Nobel Prize for Understatement goes to - - Actually I have no idea, since the Nobel committee hasn’t announced it yet, but **Eonwe** just made the short list. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/103 "2019-10-23T14:27:37Z")
> [@Steve\_McQwark](#): > > I hope you’re throwing biodegradable, paper dildos and not plastic ones. The last thing we need is a Great Pacific dildo patch. Make the Pacific Dildo Patch Great Again! ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/104 "2019-10-23T14:40:11Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > But y’all wanna run down a list of dumbass, retarded shit lefties get in their little pea-brains for balance? Please proceeed. Your attempts to come up with something that is even remotely comparable to Qlunacy will doubtless prove quite amusing… ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/105 "2019-10-23T14:43:05Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > But y’all wanna run down a list of dumbass, retarded shit lefties get in their little pea-brains for balance? Put up or shut up, fuck-up. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/106 "2019-10-23T14:43:41Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > Riiiiiiight, you fools just harass people, destroy public property, shut down free speech, riot, and generally melt down unintentionally and definitely not to enrage the right :rolleyes: Oh shit, is that what I did last Saturday? And I thought I was just at a little shindig with friends. > [@](#): > > Ok Ill bite, what did someone say that makes you think they are “pissed off” that a gay couple got married? Hmmm, I never said that they were gay, I am curious as to how you deduced that. > [@](#): > > Were you in Kentucky somewhere burning bibles and throwing dildos at people or something? Is that what you think happens at weddings? > [@Annoyed](#): > > You weaklings just can not _stand_ to hear about yourselves. All you do is deflect. My local theater is running into hard times these days, if they run into technical problems, do you think that you could fill in as their projector? ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/107 "2019-10-23T14:57:58Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Is that what you think happens at weddings? The good ones. ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/108 "2019-10-23T16:34:19Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > I don’t know anything about Qanon other than a superficial gleaning and don’t care to know any more about it. > > But y’all wanna run down a list of dumbass, retarded shit lefties get in their little pea-brains for balance? It doesn’t count unless one of the main proponents of the CT gets t9 have their picture taken in the Oval Office with POTUS. > **[Trump Snaps Photo With Top Promoter of QAnon Conspiracy Theory in Oval Office](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/lionel-lebron-trump-snaps-photo-with-top-promoter-of-qanon-conspiracy-theory-in-oval-office.html)** > > Michael "Lionel" Lebron says he took the photo after receiving a "special guided tour" of the White House. While there are some nutty fringes on the left, we don’t elect them to high office. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/109 "2019-10-23T18:50:13Z")
> [@Eonwe](#): > > So, when the OP gives what is kind of a vital piece of this story, that her friend is running conventions for Qanon, neither of you actually have any idea what that means. > > I’d say your opinions here are worth about as much as your admitted understanding of the OP. I’d say you’re wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/110 "2019-10-23T19:01:29Z")
> [@Wolf333](#): > > While there are some nutty fringes on the left, we don’t elect them to high office. [Um…](https://www.newsofinterest.tv/audio_pages/alex_jones/_060214_c_mckinney.php) 😉 Congresswoman McKinney was already in office when she went whole nut. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/111 "2019-10-23T19:07:55Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [Um…](https://www.newsofinterest.tv/audio_pages/alex_jones/_060214_c_mckinney.php) 😉 Congresswoman McKinney was already in office when she went whole nut. Left the Democratic Party back in 2006, hasn’t been in office since. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/112 "2019-10-23T19:20:26Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Left the Democratic Party back in 2006, hasn’t been in office since. She still managed to get elected to another term after revealing herself as a [conspiracy theorist](https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2002/04/12/democrat-implies-sept-11-administration-plot/258355b8-b645-43ab-b84c-d5bd500af172/?noredirect=on). ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/113 "2019-10-23T20:44:23Z")
I actually am sorta crushing on **Annoyed**. I think he’s brilliant. He’s like the clever court jester who makes a grand entrance at an event, an almost too-perfect caricature of the problems of the day. Who is immune to retribution–he is but a harmless fool after all–and as such is emboldened to show the emperor himself the folly of the current policy. Even as **Annoyed** aggravates, he educates his audience in the thought processes of the intellectually lazy, and in the way the Left’s plaintive cries for equality and fairness for all (apart from those who believe differently) are reduced to so much unintelligible bleating by the time they reach the ears of those who most need the message. Fascinating to watch, really, if somewhat repetitive. However, he seems tireless enough. ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/114 "2019-10-23T21:00:04Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > the “Cookie Diet” Bummer about your friend but I feel like we’re just glossing over the most important part of this post. I wish to hear more. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/115 "2019-10-23T21:04:37Z")
> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#): > > I actually am sorta crushing on **Annoyed**. I think he’s brilliant. He’s like the clever court jester who makes a grand entrance at an event, an almost too-perfect caricature of the problems of the day. Who is immune to retribution–he is but a harmless fool after all–and as such is emboldened to show the emperor himself the folly of the current policy. Even as **Annoyed** aggravates, he educates his audience in the thought processes of the intellectually lazy, and in the way the Left’s plaintive cries for equality and fairness for all (apart from those who believe differently) are reduced to so much unintelligible bleating by the time they reach the ears of those who most need the message. Fascinating to watch, really, if somewhat repetitive. However, he seems tireless enough. He does indeed educate us in intellectual laziness by example, but what are you bleating about with your next sentence? The people who most need the message? Who are they supposed to be? Conservatives? Idiots? Trolls? You? Who? ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/116 "2019-10-23T21:23:58Z")
You said “Yoo hoo” The language is maybe a bit flamboyant, but the next _clause_ is fairly self explanatory. To really get at what was driving that post would take a wall of text (trust/thank me, I deleted a couple of efforts) that I am not inclined to write and edit, and that nobody would be very excited to wade through. Boiled down, Left and Right, such as they exist, are only interested in addressing each other in their own terms and with their own language. What one says comes off as, well, crazy to the other, and vice versa. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/117 "2019-10-23T21:30:02Z")
> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#): > > You said “Yoo hoo” > The language is maybe a bit flamboyant, but the next _clause_ is fairly self explanatory. To really get at what was driving that post would take a wall of text (trust/thank me, I deleted a couple of efforts) that I am not inclined to write and edit, and that nobody would be very excited to wade through. Boiled down, Left and Right, such as they exist, are only interested in addressing each other in their own terms and with their own language. What one says comes off as, well, crazy to the other, and vice versa. I don’t really see how **Annoyed** is demonstrating to liberals that they need to couch their ideas in conservative language in order for them to be understood by conservatives. Perhaps I’m not liberal enough to see it? I mean, he talks in unmitigated idiocy, lies, and bile. Admittedly his opponents don’t tend to use idiocy and lies on him, preferring cutting wit and sarcastic truths, but when they resort to matching his bile it doesn’t seem to improve matters any. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/118 "2019-10-23T21:35:43Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > I don’t really see how **Annoyed** is demonstrating to liberals that they need to couch their ideas in conservative language in order for them to be understood by conservatives. Perhaps I’m not liberal enough to see it? > > I mean, he talks in unmitigated idiocy, lies, and bile. Right, conservative language. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/119 "2019-10-23T21:44:40Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Right, conservative language. That was my implication, yes. I mean, what is ‘conservative language’ supposed to mean, anyway? Their terminology? But their terminology only differs from plain english in the slurs and biased terminology. Cuck. Gun-grabber. Pro-life. Snowflake. Stuff like that is literally the only difference between conservative language and normal-people language. And liberals actually _have_ adopted “snowflake”, and it doesn’t really seem to have made conservatives happier. If not the terminology, what? The ideas? Well sure, conservative, racists, and neonazis alike would like it if liberals buckled under and stopped arguing against them. Is that what **Inigo Montoya** expects? ---
**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/120 "2019-10-23T21:44:51Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Put up or shut up, fuck-up. My personal fave currently is liberal parents using hormonal blockers on their pre-pubescent children because their children might be trans. Gotta stop that puberty, dont ya know! Its science! Or, hey, lets let fully formed adult biological males take hormones to ‘become women’ and let them compete against actual biological females. Its science! They’re actually women too! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123.md?page=7)