# My friend has gone over the edge into Trumpdom **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 22, 2019, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123 "2019-10-22T07:11:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/141 "2019-10-25T23:26:35Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > Does anyone in this forum ever get tired of calling people racist bigots? Oh, god, yes, but unfortunately, you shitbags just won’t cut it out. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/142 "2019-10-25T23:34:17Z")
> [@Brayne\_Ded](#): > > Juts feeling a tad uneasy at the thought that history might be repeating itself, in another galaxy and in another era, but the above describes a situation that has just a few similarities with 1930s Germany. We’re in the 1930s; this is America’s foray into fascism. I don’t see why supposedly intelligent people have their fucking blinders on and cannot see that. This is a national emergency. And we’re delusional if we think that just electing a democratic president is going to resolve the situation. In fact if the Democratic nominee doesn’t absolutely crush Trump in the election, I predict he’ll claim that electoral fraud was committed and his cult will defy all norms - legal and political - to keep him in power. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/143 "2019-10-25T23:37:52Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > Does anyone in this forum ever get tired of calling people racist bigots? I call 'em like I see 'em, but only _when_ I see 'em. I’d be more than happy to stop seeing 'em, the sooner the better honestly. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/144 "2019-10-25T23:40:49Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > We’re in the 1930s; this is America’s foray into fascism. I don’t see why supposedly intelligent people have their fucking blinders on and cannot see that. This is a national emergency. > > And we’re delusional if we think that just electing a democratic president is going to resolve the situation. In fact if the Democratic nominee doesn’t absolutely crush Trump in the election, I predict he’ll claim that electoral fraud was committed and his cult will defy all norms - legal and political - to keep him in power. Please, like a crushing defeat would stop him from crying fraud. The thing is, though, I don’t believe that his cult “defying all norms” will amount to more than a flash in the pan. As long as he loses, he’s done. (Presuming, of course, that he loses.) ---
**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/145 "2019-10-25T23:41:58Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Oh, god, yes, but unfortunately, you shitbags just won’t cut it out. You racist bigot! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/146 "2019-10-25T23:46:53Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > Does anyone in this forum ever get tired of calling people racist bigots? Don’t you ever get tired off being a racist bigot? > [@begbert2](#): > > I call 'em like I see 'em, but only _when_ I see 'em. I’d be more than happy to stop seeing 'em, the sooner the better honestly. Ah, well, if all goes as it has historically, a particular racist bigot will be banned before the holidays. ---
**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/147 "2019-10-25T23:48:25Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > I call 'em like I see 'em, but only _when_ I see 'em. I’d be more than happy to stop seeing 'em, the sooner the better honestly. I think you might be seeing things, you know, that arent there. > [@asahi](#): > > We’re in the 1930s; this is America’s foray into fascism. I don’t see why supposedly intelligent people have their fucking blinders on and cannot see that. This is a national emergency. > > And we’re delusional if we think that just electing a democratic president is going to resolve the situation. In fact if the Democratic nominee doesn’t absolutely crush Trump in the election, I predict he’ll claim that electoral fraud was committed and his cult will defy all norms - legal and political - to keep him in power. Whats it like being in so much fear? Do you have nightmares & shit? Ive been out all day today. Went to the apple store. Starbucks. Returned some amazon stuff. Did a little walking around the mall. Ate at Don Gomez Taqueria on the side of the road. Not a single jackboot around. No Nazis. No civil war. Literally just a whole bunch of people living their lives. I do think the internet has made you quite extreme. ---
**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/148 "2019-10-25T23:54:49Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Don’t you ever get tired off being a racist bigot? Im not any of those things, so im good. You, on the other hand, are still a huge bitch who makes money from the Chinese. > [@Monty](#): > > Ah, well, if all goes as it has historically, a particular racist bigot will be banned before the holidays Ill take that bet. If im still here by the holidays, then you have to permanently ban yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/149 "2019-10-25T23:58:19Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > Ill take that bet. If im still here by the holidays, then you have to permanently ban yourself. Have you still not figured out that **Monty** isn’t a mod? ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/150 "2019-10-26T00:06:51Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > You racist bigot! This is probably an attempt at cleverness, but you’re apparently not qualified. > [@Annoyed](#): > > I think you might be seeing things, you know, that arent there. I’ll pretend for a moment that you’re worth a serious reply. Given that this little exchange is the result of my declaration that everybody who uses “liberals should be tolerant of racist bigots!” canard is a racist, you are actually, shockingly, _right_ - there’s a possibility that people who use this canard are in fact not racists themselves, but instead intellectually dishonest and morally bankrupt political partisans who are _perfectly okay_ with racism and bigotry as long it’s in the service of their political aims, and therefore fine with endorsing such racism so long as doing so trolls the liberals and disrupts discussion. So it’s possible that the people flying this racist flag aren’t actually racists, but if they’re not then they are utterly repugnant skidmarks on the ass of humanity who are measurably worse than any human who is worth the cost of the food they eat and the air they consume. So yes, you’re right! They’re possibly not all racists. Savor the feeling of being right - it’s doubtlessly unfamiliar, and you likely won’t be experiencing it again for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/151 "2019-10-26T01:19:44Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > Im not any of those things, so im good. The evidence is to the contrary. > [@](#): > > You, on the other hand, are still a huge bitch who makes money from the Chinese. And how is this an insult? I’m doing a job. I also make money from the US federal government. > [@](#): > > Ill take that bet. If im still here by the holidays, then you have to permanently ban yourself. Nah, I’ll just wonder what’s keeping the mods occupied. ---
**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/152 "2019-10-26T09:44:24Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Have you still not figured out that **Monty** isn’t a mod? I have already known Monty is not a mod, hes been hanging off my balls since my very first post on here. We’re good friends and well acquainted. I somehow fucked up a post of his and thought it came from _you_. I posted the same when it happened. ---
**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/153 "2019-10-26T09:50:14Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > Given that this little exchange is the result of my declaration that everybody who uses “liberals should be tolerant of racist bigots!” canard is a racist, you are actually, shockingly, _right_ - there’s a possibility that people who use this canard are in fact not racists themselves, but instead intellectually dishonest and morally bankrupt political partisans who are _perfectly okay_ with racism and bigotry as long it’s in the service of their political aims, and therefore fine with endorsing such racism so long as doing so trolls the liberals and disrupts discussion. > > So it’s possible that the people flying this racist flag aren’t actually racists, but if they’re not then **they are utterly repugnant skidmarks on the ass of humanity who are measurably worse than any human who is worth the cost of the food they eat and the air they consume.** > > So yes, you’re right! They’re possibly not all racists. Savor the feeling of being right - it’s doubtlessly unfamiliar, and you likely won’t be experiencing it again for a while. Its funny because I agree that racists are bad, but the issue is that you dumb-dumbs call everything and everyone racist and have completely nullified the meaning of the word. You use your own criteria for delegating the racist tag to someone and then use that tag to justify any venom you want to spew such as the bolded above. You dont get to decide and are not the arbiter of who and what is racist. ---
**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/154 "2019-10-26T09:55:46Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > The evidence is to the contrary. What have I ever said that was racist? > [@Monty](#): > > And how is this an insult? I’m doing a job. I also make money from the US federal government. Because all the virtue and all the morals you seem to have go right out the window when you can make money from an entity that goes against all of it. Chinese re-education camps? No problem, im getting paid. Chinese censorship? No probs. Chinese tyranny? $$ The chinese government goes against everything democracy represents, but that doesnt bother you enough to not take their money. > [@Monty](#): > > Nah, I’ll just wonder what’s keeping the mods occupied. Pussy. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/155 "2019-10-26T10:32:40Z")
Damn, annoyed, you’re so full of shit, you should change your moniker to septic. p.s. How much stuff do you have that was made i China? You sent money to China, don’t you know. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/156 "2019-10-26T10:53:17Z")
> [@HarleyQuinn](#): > > I couldn’t agree with you more. The more I read, the more sorry I felt for him. I have friends and family all over the political spectrum. I respect their rights to free speech. No matter how vehemently I may disagree with what they say, I will always stand up for their RIGHT to say it. And I must say, I miss the days when people acknowledged that they could coexist. It’s like, _Okay… You may disagree with me, but why does that have to mean we can’t be friends (or at least friendly)?_ Remember back when people use to MARRY their polar opposite?! (She’s a liberal progressive democrat, he’s a conservative republican)… I actually knew couples like that. (The opposite ideology in the other couple, but still…) It was POSSIBLE. Could you imagine if a liberal girl tried to bring her conservative boyfriend out to dinner to meet her friends today?! Well, it just wouldn’t happen. The “friends” would boycott the dinner and disown the girl. Unless and until she vowed to strictly tow the party line. There is no room for dissent. There is no room for diversity. There is no room for open minds. Not gonna comment on the amount of room there is for those other things, but one thing there REALLY isn’t room for, it’s “tow” the line. The expression you’re looking for s “toe” the line. ---
**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/157 "2019-10-26T12:32:11Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Damn, annoyed, you’re so full of shit, you should change your moniker to septic. > > p.s. How much stuff do you have that was made i China? You sent money to China, don’t you know. Haha. Me having some random cheap Chinese junk = you throwing away your morals and virtue to work for them. Lmao. You’re such a foolish little hypocrite. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/158 "2019-10-26T13:52:44Z")
I threw none of my morals away. You simply do not know what you are talking about. Nothing new for you. ---
**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/159 "2019-10-26T14:02:42Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I threw none of my morals away. You simply do not know what you are talking about. Nothing new for you. You threw all of them away. Actually, much like most dumbass lefties you likely had no morals to begin with. All talk, no walk. Shit, going by your history you’d vote for Trump in 2020 if someone gave you enough money. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-has-gone-over-the-edge-into-trumpdom/842123/160 "2019-10-26T14:09:32Z")
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