# My friend just got summarily fired from her job for a pot brownie **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 7, 2013, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-just-got-summarily-fired-from-her-job-for-a-pot-brownie/665553 "2013-08-07T03:38:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![JFLuvly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac91a4/32.png) [@JFLuvly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JFLuvly)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-just-got-summarily-fired-from-her-job-for-a-pot-brownie/665553/141 "2013-08-23T18:51:39Z")
> [@](#): > > Several people have tried to say that cubicle/office workers being tested doesn’t make sense, but I can think of many exceptions. I’m one; I’m a Licensed Professional Engineer and as such I can approve designs and reports which could directly impact public safety. You do realize that marijuana may in fact possibly make you better at your job, especially in the design end. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-just-got-summarily-fired-from-her-job-for-a-pot-brownie/665553/142 "2013-08-23T19:13:25Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Really. In many states, unless you have an employment contract that says otherwise, you are an “at will” employee that can be fired for any reason (except federally protected class reasons such as as race, gender, disability, etc.), or no reason at all. Your employer can require all sorts of tests, refusing which can be grounds for dismissal. You can be fired for testing positive for caffeine, if your company so desires. You have no right to a job. Which you’d think would eliminate the necessity of drug tests. If you think one of your workers is falling down on the job, however you care to define that (or even if you don’t care to define it at all), you can fire them, end of story. Doesn’t matter if you think it might be drug-related or not. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-just-got-summarily-fired-from-her-job-for-a-pot-brownie/665553/143 "2013-08-23T20:20:08Z")
> [@JFLuvly](#): > > You do realize that marijuana may in fact possibly make you better at your job, especially in the design end. No. Whether or not creativity is enhanced by marijuana, it is known to have the effect on attention to detail. Una’s job has the very real aspect that the designs have to be technically accurate. The numbers have to actually crunch. The results have to be technically sound. And she’s putting her name and professional reputation and personal liability on the line by certifying those designs, plus the liability of her employers. That is the legal situation where being mentally impaired is a serious problem. ---
**Author:** ![JFLuvly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac91a4/32.png) [@JFLuvly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JFLuvly)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-just-got-summarily-fired-from-her-job-for-a-pot-brownie/665553/144 "2013-08-23T23:25:34Z")
> [@](#): > > it is known to have the effect on attention to detail Do you mean a negative effect? if so I would like to see a cite. I know plenty of dope smoking professionals, from musicians to artists to mechanical designers who find there attention to detail is definitely enhanced while under the influence. Two of the best students in my electronics engineering class were huge potheads and another claims to have figured out transistors during his first year while high. It was only a few years ago that I was in the “marijuana is bad camp”, and I am 47 now, until I was faced with the decision on whether or not to fill my body with anti-anxiety and anti-depression medications or try marijuana. I choose, after a shit load of research and a personal anecdote from my wife, (she was the same way, weed is bad, until the head of the pain clinic in our province recommended that she try marijuana as a possible alternative to pain relief) to try the marijuana route. It has worked incredibly well for me and I have come to the conclusion that everything I was taught in school was a lie. No addiction, no gateway, no lazy stoner, no homicidal maniac nothing of the sort. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-just-got-summarily-fired-from-her-job-for-a-pot-brownie/665553/145 "2013-08-23T23:52:49Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > No. Whether or not creativity is enhanced by marijuana, Whether or not? My gf is in advertising. If marijuana disappeared tomorrow, her company would be fucked. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-just-got-summarily-fired-from-her-job-for-a-pot-brownie/665553/146 "2013-08-24T00:16:03Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Whether or not? My gf is in advertising. If marijuana disappeared tomorrow, her company would be fucked. Ah. That explains where the ads in the ads we hate threads come from. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-just-got-summarily-fired-from-her-job-for-a-pot-brownie/665553/147 "2013-08-24T00:21:24Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > Ah. That explains where the ads in the ads we hate threads come from. 🙂 Nope, check the “ads gone viral” thread. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-just-got-summarily-fired-from-her-job-for-a-pot-brownie/665553/148 "2013-08-24T00:49:17Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > Maybe they were hoping she’d resign. They may have bent over backwards to let her save face, but she was too dumb/immature/inexperienced in the ways of the world to pick up on it. > [@JFLuvly](#): > > You do realize that marijuana may in fact possibly make you better at your job, especially in the design end. Doing any sort of job, I’ve noticed a disconnect between the objective quality of the user’s work and how good he thinks it is. Creativity does not come from a drug and I’m sure **kayaker** ’s GF’s ads would be at least as creative were she not high, and from experience I know that turnaround time would be much faster. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-just-got-summarily-fired-from-her-job-for-a-pot-brownie/665553/149 "2013-08-24T01:10:44Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Creativity does not come from a drug and I’m sure **kayaker** ’s GF’s ads would be at least as creative were she not high, and from experience I know that turnaround time would be much faster. Actually, my gf oversees the creative types and doesn’t partake personally. And she assures me, creativity; while it may not “come from a drug”, the flow sure is enhanced, to the point it is considered a necessity. And turnaround is worked into a quality project.😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-just-got-summarily-fired-from-her-job-for-a-pot-brownie/665553.md?page=7)