# \[My friend was killed in the\] Oregon community college shooting \[edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 1, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166 "2015-10-01T18:19:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166/81 "2015-10-02T00:50:06Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > …That’s the problem. More guns, means more shitty people panicking and reacting out of adrenaline. (post shortened) The problem is mass murderers. Mass murderers have used a variety of inanimate objects to carry out their murders. You seem to object to only one of the murderer’s possible choice of weapons. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166/82 "2015-10-02T00:53:27Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > For crying out loud, the guy had the students lie down on the floor then methodically started shooting them. Don’t you think if some of those students had guns on them they could have stopped it? I don’t know. Would they have started firing when he walked through the door? I think most people with a gun would have been too afraid to do anything. Because people. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166/83 "2015-10-02T00:56:30Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > (post shortened) > > The problem is mass murderers. Mass murderers have used a variety of inanimate objects to carry out their murders. You seem to object to only one of the murderer’s possible choice of weapons. This is the stupidest argument the pro-gun side has. As an aside, I go shooting once in awhile. I’m not against guns in concept. The reason that argument is stupid, is that most people won’t make bombs. It’s true. It simply doesn’t happen. Most people aren’t strong enough to kill a dozen people with a knife. Most people aren’t gonna poison the reservoir like the Joker. A gun is easy. Any stupid pussy with a gun can kill someone. Or several someones. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166/84 "2015-10-02T01:00:48Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > This is the stupidest argument the pro-gun side has. As an aside, I go shooting once in awhile. I’m not against guns in concept. > > The reason that argument is stupid, is that most people won’t make bombs. It’s true. It simply doesn’t happen. Most people aren’t strong enough to kill a dozen people with a knife. Most people aren’t gonna poison the reservoir like the Joker. > > A gun is easy. Any stupid pussy with a gun can kill someone. Or several someones. That’s the stupidest argument the anti-gun nuts have. You can chose to ignore the fact that mass murderers have used many different tools and methods to murder people. The stupidity of your argument doesn’t change the facts. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166/85 "2015-10-02T01:10:11Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > A gun is easy. Any stupid pussy with a gun can kill someone. Or several someones. A car is easy. Any stupid pussy with a car can kill someone. Or several someones. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166/86 "2015-10-02T01:11:10Z")
Who are these Quick Draw McGraws out there?! You think if you were armed with a pistol during English Lit. you’d be able to whip it out and take out a guy who already has an AR-15 pointed at your head? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166/87 "2015-10-02T01:11:21Z")
It’s now been reported that the shooter was 26yrs old. This is why I wait 48 hrs before believing anything the LSM reports during these “BREAKING NEWS” stories. The media’s priority is to report something, anything, first. They’ll get around to reporting the actual facts at a much later date. Maybe. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166/88 "2015-10-02T01:12:18Z")
Shooter: 26 y.o. Chris Harper Mercer. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166/89 "2015-10-02T01:14:41Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > It’s now been reported that the shooter was 26yrs old. > > This is why I wait 48 hrs before believing anything the LSM reports during these “BREAKING NEWS” stories. The media’s priority is to report something, anything, first. They’ll get around to reporting the actual facts at a much later date. Maybe. It was the county Sheriff was the one to “confirm” that both he was dead and “20 years old”. It wasn’t misreporting. They got misinformation from the officials. Early reports actually pinned his age in the late-20s. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166/90 "2015-10-02T01:14:50Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > I don’t know. Would they have started firing when he walked through the door? I think most people with a gun would have been too afraid to do anything. Of course. People with a gun would have just remained there on the floor to be shot. Without trying to defend themselves. In your world. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166/91 "2015-10-02T01:15:28Z")
Obama was good today. Gun fetishists do more harm to America than al Quaeda. Their fear and ignorance are an anchor dragging down our nation and they are too stupid to be ashamed. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166/92 "2015-10-02T01:15:51Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > Why would any average 21-year old citizen need one of [these?](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/AR15_A3_Tactical_Carbine_pic1.jpg) I was 20 or 21 when I got my first AR-15. I think I’m up to seven or eight now. If it bothers anyone, I’ll take my entire 30+ year collection to the Sheriff’s office and turn them over for them to do whatever with them. Just send me fair market value, which I’m estimating to be $50,000. I promise not to buy more. I’d rather buy a used Cessna. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166/93 "2015-10-02T01:17:15Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > Who are these Quick Draw McGraws out there?! > > You think if you were armed with a pistol during English Lit. you’d be able to whip it out and take out a guy who already has an AR-15 pointed at your head? If you point your finger at the murderer, will the murderer wilt before your stern glare? How would you respond if the murderer made your finger disappear before your very eyes, almost as if by magic, complete with a flash and a bang? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166/94 "2015-10-02T01:19:05Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Obama was good today. > > Gun fetishists do more harm to America than al Quaeda. Their fear and ignorance are an anchor dragging down our nation and they are too stupid to be ashamed. Did Obama finally stand up to Putin? That’s great! And it’s about time. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166/95 "2015-10-02T01:19:48Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Actually the parents of the Tuscon shooter were actively trying to find him to prevent what happened. You’re conflating that event with Elliot Rodger of the [Isla Vista killings.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla_Vista_shooting) ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166/96 "2015-10-02T01:21:56Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > Who are these Quick Draw McGraws out there?! > > You think if you were armed with a pistol during English Lit. you’d be able to whip it out and take out a guy who already has an AR-15 pointed at your head? No, I think if there was a number of CCW students dispersed in the school they could shoot someone who has an AR-15 shooting you. Or, and I’m just throwing this out, you can sit their waiting for the police. How long did you survive your own scenario with an AR-15 pointed at your head? If you need help with the math I’ll get you started. The bullet from an AR-15 travels at 3,200 ft/s. ---
**Author:** ![WF\_Tomba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d9b06d/32.png) [@WF\_Tomba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WF_Tomba)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166/97 "2015-10-02T01:22:17Z")
I was only checking this thread to see if **Lancia** was OK, but now apparently it’s devolved into the stupidest gun control debate ever. Do all you people realize that you’ve all said the same things every time there’s been a shooting? Do you think anyone here hasn’t heard every argument a hundred times before? Do you think anyone’s mind is going to be changed? Just stuff your stupid opinions already. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166/98 "2015-10-02T01:23:56Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Did Obama finally stand up to Putin? That’s great! And it’s about time. Does Putin think Obama is weak? > [@Vladimir Putin](#): > > [I don’t think so at all.](http://www.examiner.com/article/putin-shuts-down-gop-talking-point-that-obama-is-weak-i-don-t-think-so-at-all) ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166/99 "2015-10-02T01:24:53Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > That’s the stupidest argument the anti-gun nuts have. You can chose to ignore the fact that mass murderers have used many different tools and methods to murder people. The stupidity of your argument doesn’t change the facts. You haven’t demonstrated my argument is stupid. In order to do that, you’d need to show me how common mass knifings are. Go on. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166/100 "2015-10-02T01:25:16Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > It was the county Sheriff was the one to “confirm” that both he was dead and “20 years old”. It wasn’t misreporting. They got misinformation from the officials. > > Early reports actually pinned his age in the late-20s. Early reports are usually full of holes, and horseshit. Did the County Sheriff “confirm” or did the media “confirm” that the Sheriff “confirmed”? Or were the media outlets jostling to be the first to report a/the suspects age? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-friend-was-killed-in-the-oregon-community-college-shooting-edited-title/733166.md?page=6)